Gamamaru is wiser than the SO6P?

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Gamamaru was the one who predicted Naruto would reunite all the bijuu and not Hagoromo.
Does this mean that the SO6P was a toad sage or that he just traveled to Mt. Myoboku to seek fortunes?
Gamamaru can see the future perfectly, he even knew that Naruto and Sasuke would both die.
I believe Gamamaru was given these prophecies from a being stronger and higher than the Sage of Six Paths and Kaguya.
 

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he never said naruto and sasuke would die..

he said that naruto would face someone with power in their eyes.. this could have been nagato, obito, madara or sasuke.. or the juubi for that matter :|

naruto just jumped to the conclusion that it was sasuke
 

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he never said naruto and sasuke would die..

he said that naruto would face someone with power in their eyes.. this could have been nagato, obito, madara or sasuke.. or the juubi for that matter :|

naruto just jumped to the conclusion that it was sasuke

Yes, but they did not stop Naruto when he knew they both would die.
 

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it's pretty simple that naruto and sasuke will die because they are mortal..

maybe the toad was his summoning or best friend
 

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Wisdom isn't gained just because you can see something.

If Tenten could predict the future would she be wise? No. She would just have a weird ability no one else has. It's what you do with your knowledge that makes you wise.
 

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Wisdom isn't gained just because you can see something.

If Tenten could predict the future would she be wise? No. She would just have a weird ability no one else has. It's what you do with your knowledge that makes you wise.

Wisdom is good judgement and lots of knowledge, which the Honorable Toad Sage had.
 

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Wisdom is good judgement and lots of knowledge, which the Honorable Toad Sage had.

Knowledge does not make someone wise. Wisdom is interpretation.

Seeing the future does not make someone wise. It just means they can see something someone else cannot.

Is Hinata more wise than Jiraiya because Jiraiya can't see a person's chakra pathway?
 

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Knowledge does not make someone wise. Wisdom is interpretation.

Seeing the future does not make someone wise. It just means they can see something someone else cannot.

Is Hinata more wise than Jiraiya because Jiraiya can't see a person's chakra pathway?

I don't believe seeing someone's chakra points is the same as predicting the future.
The Sage believed that leaving the bijuu on earth would stabilize peace, but he was wrong, making that an unwise decision.
Gamamaru is wise because of his old age and ability to see the future, something no other shinobi could do except for Itachi (possibly).

Though, I do agree that wisdom is based on what you do with your knowledge, but as I have stated, it is also good judgement... At least according to the definition lol.
 

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I don't believe seeing someone's chakra points is the same as predicting the future.
The Sage believed that leaving the bijuu on earth would stabilize peace, but he was wrong, making that an unwise decision.
Gamamaru is wise because of his old age and ability to see the future, something no other shinobi could do except for Itachi (possibly).

Though, I do agree that wisdom is based on what you do with your knowledge, but as I have stated, it is also good judgement... At least according to the definition lol.

Bold is where you're wrong. It's not prediction or some sort of active ability, it's a passive sight he has no control over.

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In the same way Byakugan users can see the chakra pathways, Gamamaru can see the future in his dreams. This does not make him wise, it makes him knowledgeable which is not tantamount to wisdom.
 

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Bold is where you're wrong. It's not prediction or some sort of active ability, it's a passive sight he has no control over.

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In the same way Byakugan users can see the chakra pathways, Gamamaru can see the future in his dreams. This does not make him wise, it makes him knowledgeable which is not tantamount to wisdom.

Actually, in the very scan it is said that it amounts to a prediction about his future, but I guess I'll agree with you, wisdom is a misnomer in this context. I guess what I am trying to say is that Gamamaru is more knowledgeable than the SO6P and his special ability is something worth noting.
 
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