Clearing up some confusion on Yin,Sage Mode and other stuff

[DeadManWonderLand]

Many have debated whether sasuke has obtained sage mode and what the yin release added to the technique unleashed by sasuke.

Sasuke does not have sage mode.
Nor does use or have senjustu chakra (nature energy)
Sage mode is the application of one using his senjustu in combat.
Orochimaru used his senjustu chakra to mold the curse seals which is what you get when nature energy is placed into something.

Yin is spiritual energy which governs imagination and gives form to nothing.

sasuke cultivated the lightning in the sky and brought it down.
In essence its like how he manipulated raw lightning earlier in the series,albeit through using katon justu to naturally stur up a cloud.


This time sasuke manipulates it more directly by directly manipulating the lightning itself and not using a third party in the process.

Sasuke was manipulating raw energy which by definition classifies as a sage art since its all natural energy (The lightning)manipulated through his use of yin (spiritual energy)

 

[Reflection]

Not to mention, Itachi solos.

 

[Champ]

Don't know about Sage mode, but he definitely has Senjutsu

 

[reizon]

how is this clarify anything.??

 

[Solog0d]

it doesnt matter. he can use six paths chakra too

 

[Fuzzy Panda]

He was using the Sage's chakra.

 

[Behemoth55]

Sasuke was manipulating raw energy which by definition classifies as a sage art since its all natural energy (The lightning)manipulated through his use of yin (spiritual energy)

No, Sasuke didn't use Inton for Chidori, but a new kind of chakra with new properties.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Don't know about Sage mode, but he definitely has Senjutsu

Sasuke at no point has ever learned to handle senjustu
Applying nature energy into things.
WHICH is why juugo provided the senjustu in his last attack against obito for him.

The justu sasuek can use does hold sage art in its tittles but that is because sasuke manipulated actual lightning which is nature energy which is what senjustu is,nature energy.

He uses sage art techniques because his yin (spiritual energy) provides their form.

He manipulates senjustu he doesn't actually have it.

Think about it like this

NARUTO as we all know is a psychical fighter his application of senjustu energy is through combat (sage mode)
Sasuke doesn't hold it inside him he controls it outside of himself

 

[Xlad]

Yes. Sage Mode is a state that results from the perfect balance of Natural, Physical, and Spiritual Energy within one's own body. CM is more external than within the body.

 

[VolatileSoul]

This is not clarifying anything. It's you trying to write the manga. Sage Mode and using Senjutsu are similar but not the same. Sasuke, Juugo and every cursed seal user was using Senjutsu despite not having Sage Mode. Natural lightning was never confirmed to be the same as natural energy. Sasuke has Hogomoro's chakra, which is Senjutsu by default.

 

[Dantee]

Not sage mode but he can use senjutsu for his attacks. Sage mode is like a body enhancment. Senjutsu enhanced attacks are different. Black chidori is a senjutsu technique, just like we saw at VOTE

 

[-Spoiler-]

People keep mistaking Sasuke current Chidori with the curse mark one he used at VOTE, when its not the same, Sasuke used the chakra granted by the Sage of six paths for his current Chidori not Senjutsu.

 

[Dantee]

People keep mistaking Sasuke current Chidori with the curse mark one he used at VOTE, when its not the same, Sasuke used the chakra granted by the Sage of six paths for his current Chidori not Senjutsu.

O really. Curse Mark uses senjutsu. Only senjutsu hurts Madara, I'll use the sages power too. Makes the same black chidori. Tell me how they aren't the same.

 

[-Spoiler-]

O really. Curse Mark uses senjutsu. Only senjutsu hurts Madara, I'll use the sages power too. Makes the same black chidori. Tell me how they aren't the same.

Sasuke no longer possess Curse Mark, the only senjutsu thing would have flied if Sasuke and Naruto wasn't just power up by the Sage.

 

[Dantee]

Sasuke no longer possess Curse Mark, the only senjutsu thing would have flied if Sasuke and Naruto wasn't just power up by the Sage.

Then why is it the exact same tech and it can hurt Madara if it's not senjutsu. What other part of the Sages power can hurt Madara besides dojutsu. It's obvious the sages power = senjutsu in the case of black chidori.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

This is not clarifying anything. It's you trying to write the manga. Sage Mode and using Senjutsu are similar but not the same. Sasuke, Juugo and every cursed seal user was using Senjutsu despite not having Sage Mode. Natural lightning was never confirmed to be the same as natural energy. Sasuke has Hogomoro's chakra, which is Senjutsu by default.

"Sage Mode and using Senjutsu are similar but not the same"
You made the same point i made.

Nature energy flows through the earth.
Lightning is energy.(Not an opinion but,scientific fact.
Yin is what gives things form sasukes gave natural lightning form a.k.a he gave nature energy a form.
It is a sage technique because it deals in senjustu

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Then why is it the exact same tech and it can hurt Madara if it's not senjutsu. What other part of the Sages power can hurt Madara besides dojutsu. It's obvious the sages power = senjutsu in the case of black chidori.

Exactly sasuke being from the uchiha clan whose a descendant from the sage who were gifted with immense spiritual energy and strong chakra used it to give form to his attacks.Natural lightning is not chakra but,real energy which is senjustu which means natural energy lol

What about this is so hard for the rest to grasp ?lol