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[*]Scenario 2:Katsuya
Mei vs Tsunade
- Thread starter Kagustuchi
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Scenario 1: Tsunade wins. Katsuyu spitting acid from one side and Tsunade coming at Mei from another will end up like
Scenario 2: I used to say Tsunade, but i always forgot something: Hidding the Mist jutsu.
This gives Mei a great chance to finish off Tsunade with a combination of Acidic Mist (for when Tsunade tracks her through her heartbeat, in order to hinder her) and Lava (to keep on damaging and draining her chakra).
I'd still say its a 50/50 deal.
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.Scenario 2: I used to say Tsunade, but i always forgot something: Hidding the Mist jutsu.
This gives Mei a great chance to finish off Tsunade with a combination of Acidic Mist (for when Tsunade tracks her through her heartbeat, in order to hinder her) and Lava (to keep on damaging and draining her chakra).
I'd still say its a 50/50 deal.
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KingHashirama
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Wasn't Mei relieved to have Tsunade there as the Hokage? 
And weren't Onoki and Tsuna the top 2 Kages against Madara?
I'm not seeing in which Mei could be above Tsunade..
And weren't Onoki and Tsuna the top 2 Kages against Madara?
I'm not seeing in which Mei could be above Tsunade..
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Tazzilla88
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Acid Mist does not melt flesh, it burns it.
Mei's Lava Style is slow enough that it allowed Karin to move out of it's trajectory.
Which leaves Mei's Water techniques, that work through blunt force Trauma, which would hardly put Tsunade down.
Mei's Lava Style is slow enough that it allowed Karin to move out of it's trajectory.
Which leaves Mei's Water techniques, that work through blunt force Trauma, which would hardly put Tsunade down.
Joseph Gomes
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Mei wins both. Tsunade doesn't have byakugan so she can't see through Mei's mist. Mei's lava style would burn Tsunade pretty badly. Tsunade can't punch Mei because she doesn't use foot speed to attack opponents. Katsuyu is not much of a factor here
Tazzilla88
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Tsunade's strength clears the mist.
Mei's Lava is far slower than Tsunade's foot speed. Or do you not recall Madar casually avoiding it whilst calling it pathetic.
Mei doesn't have any evasion feats. Tsunade doesn't use foot speed to attack opponents?
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Mei wins high difficulty.
Katsuyu is blasted with a
Tsunade isn't getting close to Mei considering Mei's suiton, yoton and futton all act as CQC deterrents. If Mei decides to blast Tsunade with a water dragon, two things can happen, either Tsunade gets sent flying dozens of meters just like Madara's susanoo or Tsunade manages to withstand the force of the water dragon by pouring chakra in her feet to stick to the ground. Either way, Tsunade will be blinded by the massive wave of water that hits her and won't be in a position to dodge a followup
If Mei were to attack Tsunade with lava while Tsunade charges at Mei, Tsunade either gets hit or forced to run sideways or backwards. If Tsunade does manage to change the direction she is running, Mei can simply change the trajectory of her attack by moving where her face is directed and pour lava in the direction Tsunade is running. Once Tsunade gets hit, whatever skin that is exposed to lava will melt and seep through inside her body where all the blood and water will instantly get evaporated. Then Mei can harden the lava inside Tsunade's body, which would block Tsunade's movements and vital body functions, thus killing her (
Last but not least, if Mei decides to use her acid mist, Tsunade will start melting considering when Mei was
Tsunade could try
Katsuyu is blasted with a
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. Mei's suiton contains salt considering regular water isn't an electric conductor unlike Mei's which
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. Only salt water can conduct electricity hence Mei takes a major dump on Katsuyu considering it is
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. Also slugs have acidic conditions within their bodies so it getting blasted with a large amount of water will cause Katsuyu to get contaminated with excess water which will change the pH in Katsuyu, thus ruining the homeostatic conditions within Katsuyu, resulting in swift death. Tsunade isn't getting close to Mei considering Mei's suiton, yoton and futton all act as CQC deterrents. If Mei decides to blast Tsunade with a water dragon, two things can happen, either Tsunade gets sent flying dozens of meters just like Madara's susanoo or Tsunade manages to withstand the force of the water dragon by pouring chakra in her feet to stick to the ground. Either way, Tsunade will be blinded by the massive wave of water that hits her and won't be in a position to dodge a followup
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which Mei can execute in a small amount of time even while warning the others to get out (
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).If Mei were to attack Tsunade with lava while Tsunade charges at Mei, Tsunade either gets hit or forced to run sideways or backwards. If Tsunade does manage to change the direction she is running, Mei can simply change the trajectory of her attack by moving where her face is directed and pour lava in the direction Tsunade is running. Once Tsunade gets hit, whatever skin that is exposed to lava will melt and seep through inside her body where all the blood and water will instantly get evaporated. Then Mei can harden the lava inside Tsunade's body, which would block Tsunade's movements and vital body functions, thus killing her (
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).Last but not least, if Mei decides to use her acid mist, Tsunade will start melting considering when Mei was
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away from Sasuke, his ribcage susanoo
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within the first few moments. Tsunade's skin is far less durable than ribcage susanoo so Tsunade will start getting melt at a faster rate. Her Byakogou could help somewhat but let's not overrate it considering
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when she had two susanoo swords
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. Unlike the susanoo swords, the acid mist will be doing damage all over Tsunade's body, not just within the localised regions where the swords were stuck, and once Tsunade inhales it, even her lungs and throat will start melting. Tsunade will have to focus all her attention and strength on surviving within the acid mist thus slowing down her reactions and movement speed considerably. This will allow Mei to finish Tsunade off with lava.Tsunade could try
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to repel the acid mist and dealing damage to Mei but Mei knows about Tsunade's strength and won't let her do this considering
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with her suiton if Tsunade tries this. Also within acid mist, Tsunade's ability to use CES will diminish due to her having to focus on regenerating.
TheEvilOne
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Could go either ways, but I'm learning towards Tsunade with high difficulty. I'll counter your post Ice as soon as possible.
Tazzilla88
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To be fair Ice, this isn't your best argument thus far. Since I'm currently distracting myself from a jurisprudence paper, this seems like a worthwhile use of distraction time.
I'll first assert that Katsuyu is not necessary for Tsunade to pull out a win. While it is true that Mei's suiton contains salt, Brine does not kill slugs, except maybe from them drowning which is hardly a relevant discussion here. The reason pure salt kills a slug is because salt is a desiccant, meaning it draws water out of things. But, when in salt water, the salt is already using it's effects on the water present and thus creatures such as sea slugs and sea snails and oysters and sponges can exist without drying out.
Now slugs do have naturally acidic bodies it's true, but many slugs dwell quite comfortably within areas in which the ph level is near 6.5 to 7.5. Given this is true, Mei's suiton will not do much to the slugs, especially considering on of the ways one deals with slug infestions is to line their garden with wood ash which is a fairly strong alkaline. But the reason this is effective is because it irritates their mucus lining, not change the ph of their entire body. Thus, such a claim is highly doubtful to be true.
So sorry, at the beginning of your argument there is a flaw, namely that you assert two total possibilities where more exist. For instance if Mei decides to use Water Dragon Jutsu Tsunade can avoid such a jutsu. The Reason Madara could not was because he was already in involuntary motion as a result of Tsunade's punch. Tsunade however, should be able to get out of the blast range before the technique hits her. The problem that occurs with long range attacks, is that to avoid them you need only side step them. With enough time, and with the reflexes and knowledge necessary one should be able to avoid most long range attacks. And as Tsunade is able to jump great distances in the time that it takes for Mei to gather the necessary chakra, and attack using suiton [
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]I think asserting that Tsunade will be a deer in headlights is inaccurate. In fact, I hold that in the same way, Tsunade leapt to ward of Madara's Katon she could have leapt to safety. And insofar, as it was possible for Tsunade to avoid a Katon, which did not provide Mei enough time to counter, then I see no reason that Tsunade cannot avoid Mei's suiton. Now dealing with Mei's Yoton, Mei's Yoton has never been
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to be particularly fast. In fact, Karin managed to
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it entirely. A heavily fatigued Sasuke easily
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it. And in response to your Mei just turning her head argument, it'll be something like when Mei
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to hit Madara, but Ay had to
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into the lava. Mei's lava is simply not fast enough to attack an opponent head on. The next problem that you've reached is applying Naruto's lava to our lava. If Mei's lava were as hot as our lava Raikage could not have served as her support, Karin should still have felt the effects from the heat of the lava, and Madara though being protected by Susanoo should have burst in flames. Additionally, we have no way to guage accurately how hot Mei's lava was as Dodai
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too but his lava is clearly not as hot as Mei's nor real world lava.Now let's talk about Mei's Acid Mist, in the incident with Sasuke, Mei's mist was significantly more concentrated because it was an enclosed space, a luxury that Mei is not afforded here. Further most acids do not melt skin, as seen by what happened to Sasuke, he started to get
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. The fact then that Mei's mist can melt Susanoo does not translate to Mei's mist can melt flesh. It takes extremely powerful bases hours to melt down a body, and powerful acids can take days. But, given that in an ideal environment the worst Sasuke received was chemical burns suggest not only will the acid mists effects be less extreme because it is more diluted, but that damage should occur at a rate the
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. Also, one of the key point of the Byakugou no jutsu is that Tsunade does not have to focus her attention on healing, the process happens on it's own. As opposed to Creation Rebirth. Creation Rebirth showed that healing a multitude of wounds simultaneously is not a problem. I find the claim that Mei will gather the chakra and perform a jutsu faster than Tsunade can hit the ground to be a little preposterous. And since Tsunade won't have to focus on regenerating, her ability to CES should in no way be impaired. That's akin to saying that whilst Tsunade is regenerating, she cannot use her transformation jutsu. Tsunade is obviously quite skilled a keeping multiple jutsus active simultaneously. For instance, in this
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alone Tsunade is using 3 of her abilities. Referring to that scan, note the size of those Susanoo swords to the size of Tsunade's hands. There is a large difference between being impaled by two of those swords, and caught in a diluted acid mist.
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TRE MERCER
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I think Tsunade would take it either way. She is super durable she could easily survive all of Mei's ninjutsu except maybe yoton but it is slow enough that it could easily be evaded. All Tsunade needs is one hit to end this.
Maybe in scenario 2 Mei wins beacause of hidden mist jutsu and Tsunade wouldn't be able to retreat on top of Katsuyu and may fall prey to Mei's ninjustu.
Maybe in scenario 2 Mei wins beacause of hidden mist jutsu and Tsunade wouldn't be able to retreat on top of Katsuyu and may fall prey to Mei's ninjustu.
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Tsunade Enhances her Speed and Blitzes her Before Throwing any Lava Water or Acid
This is Like lee vs Temari
This is Like lee vs Temari