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Can 14 year old Itachi beat 14 year old Obito?
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you are quite right.
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had access due to madara letting him, your acting like he mastered it.
itachi was more skilled and probably stronger than obito at that time and period.
itachi feats are also greater.
you left out the fact that obito was handed powerups from madara
such as
-hashirama dna
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lol post the one about obito admitting itachi could kill him.
they love to say that scan is wrong.
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Which village did Obito cripple at 14?
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No, no he doesn't.
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No Kakashi was 27 when the series started and Naruto was 13 do the math...
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Itachi can control the Kyuubi with his Sharingan. :itachi:
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Are you misquoting me or something..? I don't get what you're saying...
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I just realized that I did, sorry.
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Obito didn't fight the entire Leaf Village, smart-one, the Kyuubi did that. Obito only fought against Minato and lost.
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Itachi is the person who programmed the eye in the first place, Itachi was shown to be able to control his crows his commanded the crow many times no words needed even with crow clones/shadow clones.
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When saying that Obito destroyed the Leaf...he did that with Kurama. He was a sharingan user and could control him, so he used him. I don't see why 14 year old Itachi couldn't just overwrite Obito's genjutsu on Kurama and actually use him for his own benefit in this fight. If Obito who doesn't exactly specialize in genjutsu (though he is quite good at it) can do that, then I don't see why a 14 year old who mastered his 3-tomoe at the age of 8, has Tsukiyomi, and has the best genjutsu feats in this manga (well other than Kaguya obviously...that infinite tsukiyomi. 
) couldn't.
Bringing up the excuse that a 13 year old kid Itachi asked a 20+ year old Obito seems slightly lame as well. It's a clan filled with people in various buildings and you have a few hours to eliminate them all, through stealth assassination. Itachi's not exactly the type of ninja to pull that off. He's one person who would have to take the time to going to house to house to house. That takes too much. Obito on the other hand could just pretty much appear anywhere he wants to with kamui and be as silent as possible, he can warp pretty fast to the location he wants to. Including him was convenient and made the job easier. Why not ask for help? That doesn't denote any inferiority between the two in a 1v1 however.
In the Road to Ninja movie where Kishimoto did all of the character designs and even came up with the script, Itachi saves Sakura from Obito and notices that he can remain intangible, but then informs him that there is still a way to hurt him. Then Obito calls him a "troublesome guy" and goes away. In Kishimoto's mind, Itachi apparently has a counter. xD
Honestly, this just depends on how much intel they have on each other. During the Minato vs Obito fight, Obito continuously looked into Minato's eyes and vice-versa. Minato just didn't get caught in a genjutsu because Obito was busy controlling the Kyuubi. If Obito doesn't know about Tsukiyomi and looks into his eyes, he's done. And considering the way that most battles go in this story, if neither have intel, they are going to at least say a few words to each other (all the fights go like that, you cannot deny it) and Obito is going to get caught. But if they have knowledge, then obviously Itachi would have to come up with a counter to kamui, and if he doesn't then he certainly loses in the respect.
As for the mechanics behind Tsukiyomi...it seemed like when Sasuke broke it during his fight with Itachi, that Itachi had prolonged it. He was also expecting him to break it, considering that Obito stated that all the contingencies in that fight were planned, when he says that a panel of the Tsukiyomi comes up. This is also slightly reaffirmed by the fact that Zetsu noticed the Tsukiyomi while it was going on. If it had been the type he used against Kakashi, Sasuke would have been out in literally one second and Zetsu wouldn't have had time to realize what was going on. Obito's not Itachi's little brother...he's not going to go easy on him here. He also cannot break it, regardless of being an Uchiha or not. The only reason that Sasuke could was because it was prolonged in real life. If Itachi uses the type he used on Kakashi, it would last only one second and Obito wouldn't even have enough time to disrupt his chakra.
Also, this is slightly off-topic but I don't recall Obito using mokuton when he wasn't encased by spiral zetsu. If he never did use it alone, then obviously that doesn't qualify as a feat by himself and will be disregarded in this fight...it's not 2v1 here. But maybe that's just my faulty memory and he did use it w/o Zetsu?
I also find it funny that the majority of people who said Obito have him as their fav or have an avatar of him, but accused everyone who said Itachi as being a wanker. Okay, lol. And most didn't even try to justify their answer, they just said "kamui'....when Itachi has his own techs as well and it was implied that Itachi has a counter for it in RTN. :/
) couldn't.Bringing up the excuse that a 13 year old kid Itachi asked a 20+ year old Obito seems slightly lame as well. It's a clan filled with people in various buildings and you have a few hours to eliminate them all, through stealth assassination. Itachi's not exactly the type of ninja to pull that off. He's one person who would have to take the time to going to house to house to house. That takes too much. Obito on the other hand could just pretty much appear anywhere he wants to with kamui and be as silent as possible, he can warp pretty fast to the location he wants to. Including him was convenient and made the job easier. Why not ask for help? That doesn't denote any inferiority between the two in a 1v1 however.
In the Road to Ninja movie where Kishimoto did all of the character designs and even came up with the script, Itachi saves Sakura from Obito and notices that he can remain intangible, but then informs him that there is still a way to hurt him. Then Obito calls him a "troublesome guy" and goes away. In Kishimoto's mind, Itachi apparently has a counter. xD
Honestly, this just depends on how much intel they have on each other. During the Minato vs Obito fight, Obito continuously looked into Minato's eyes and vice-versa. Minato just didn't get caught in a genjutsu because Obito was busy controlling the Kyuubi. If Obito doesn't know about Tsukiyomi and looks into his eyes, he's done. And considering the way that most battles go in this story, if neither have intel, they are going to at least say a few words to each other (all the fights go like that, you cannot deny it) and Obito is going to get caught. But if they have knowledge, then obviously Itachi would have to come up with a counter to kamui, and if he doesn't then he certainly loses in the respect.
As for the mechanics behind Tsukiyomi...it seemed like when Sasuke broke it during his fight with Itachi, that Itachi had prolonged it. He was also expecting him to break it, considering that Obito stated that all the contingencies in that fight were planned, when he says that a panel of the Tsukiyomi comes up. This is also slightly reaffirmed by the fact that Zetsu noticed the Tsukiyomi while it was going on. If it had been the type he used against Kakashi, Sasuke would have been out in literally one second and Zetsu wouldn't have had time to realize what was going on. Obito's not Itachi's little brother...he's not going to go easy on him here. He also cannot break it, regardless of being an Uchiha or not. The only reason that Sasuke could was because it was prolonged in real life. If Itachi uses the type he used on Kakashi, it would last only one second and Obito wouldn't even have enough time to disrupt his chakra.
Also, this is slightly off-topic but I don't recall Obito using mokuton when he wasn't encased by spiral zetsu. If he never did use it alone, then obviously that doesn't qualify as a feat by himself and will be disregarded in this fight...it's not 2v1 here. But maybe that's just my faulty memory and he did use it w/o Zetsu?
I also find it funny that the majority of people who said Obito have him as their fav or have an avatar of him, but accused everyone who said Itachi as being a wanker. Okay, lol. And most didn't even try to justify their answer, they just said "kamui'....when Itachi has his own techs as well and it was implied that Itachi has a counter for it in RTN. :/
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