[Theory] did Orochimaru recognize the man inside spiral zetsu?

[ssjelf]

You see, with a thread like this, a can't really counter argue, because there is no evidence to support anything on other side. You are making radical inferences and drawing out a meaning that i don't believe is there and unfortunately the problem with your doing that, is that i too would have to make radical inferences to counter argue.

Let me ask you something. If your theory is true, what purpose does it truly serve? What I mean by this is not that Madara has more fighting power or that he was able to execute his plans. I mean why would Kishi write it this way? A way that seems extremely far fetched and overly complicated. There is no reason for kishi to over complicate things.

Kishi already had a plot device through which he could resurrect Madara. that device being a brainwashed Obito, the seal on Obito, and if all else failed, he also had black zetsu, aka Madaras will who is shown to be able to limit Obito movements. I bet that if Obito still had the seal on him, Black Zetsu could even manipulate him further. Have you ever noticed that half of Obito's body turned black when Madara tried to control him with the (destroyed) seal. Well what fits that other half. Black Zetsu fit perfectly, in fact, zetsu has gone onto obito and is controlling him currently do a degree.

On another note, stop spamming your threads, this is your umpteenth time with this, and you haven't even made that many changes.

I also want to add that the goofy voice of Tobi was an anime thing, nothing in the Manga showed that his voice was goofy other than his behavior. Even if his voice was, the Madara impersonation voice was still an anime thing, for all we know the voice of Obito is the same as his impersonation.

 

[minamoto]

what the hell is wrong with you ?? :erm: did you even get my post or is this how you cling to your far fetched theory when some disagree's with it ??

Edit : it's all good man ................. just calm down a little lol.

actually i wrote you another comment admiting that i was rude to you and i asked you forgiveness..but nvm maybe you didnt read it

 

[minamoto]

You see, with a thread like this, a can't really counter argue, because there is no evidence to support anything on other side. You are making radical inferences and drawing out a meaning that i don't believe is there and unfortunately the problem with your doing that, is that i too would have to make radical inferences to counter argue.

Let me ask you something. If your theory is true, what purpose does it truly serve? What I mean by this is not that Madara has more fighting power or that he was able to execute his plans. I mean why would Kishi write it this way? A way that seems extremely far fetched and overly complicated. There is no reason for kishi to over complicate things.

Kishi already had a plot device through which he could resurrect Madara. that device being a brainwashed Obito, the seal on Obito, and if all else failed, he also had black zetsu, aka Madaras will who is shown to be able to limit Obito movements. I bet that if Obito still had the seal on him, Black Zetsu could even manipulate him further. Have you ever noticed that half of Obito's body turned black when Madara tried to control him with the (destroyed) seal. Well what fits that other half. Black Zetsu fit perfectly, in fact, zetsu has gone onto obito and is controlling him currently do a degree.

On another note, stop spamming your threads, this is your umpteenth time with this, and you haven't even made that many changes.

I also want to add that the goofy voice of Tobi was an anime thing, nothing in the Manga showed that his voice was goofy other than his behavior. Even if his voice was, the Madara impersonation voice was still an anime thing, for all we know the voice of Obito is the same as his impersonation.

the purpose of the second reveal of tobi is this...obito being tobi was an illusion created by kishi so...true naruto readers (like me) are the ones able to see through kishimoto's illusion = never call something truth untill you get full understanding of it

 

[ssjelf]

the purpose of the second reveal of tobi is this...obito being tobi was an illusion created by kishi so...true naruto readers (like me) are the ones able to see through kishimoto's illusion = never call something truth untill you get full understanding of it

Uhm no. You have failed to provide an adequate response. A double illusion does not serve a purpose. The purpose of the original illusion was well explained. the name of Madara instills fear and helped start the 4th war. It also kept people from outright attacking, they weren't sure of his powers.

If Kishi were to reveal this later, then he needs a reason for it, a purpose to serve. A relevant plot purpose. Kishi is not the type of writer to do things for seemingly no reason. You did not provide one and as such your theory is incomplete and invalid.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

actually i wrote you another comment admiting that i was rude to you and i asked you forgiveness..but nvm maybe you didnt read it

i was too late to see it (that's why i edited my post), my bad.

 

[davidou]

I think this scan makes obvious the fact that the guy inside spiralZ have short hair!

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Isn't that a proof that it isn't Madara?

 

[minamoto]

Uhm no. You have failed to provide an adequate response. A double illusion does not serve a purpose. The purpose of the original illusion was well explained. the name of Madara instills fear and helped start the 4th war. It also kept people from outright attacking, they weren't sure of his powers.

If Kishi were to reveal this later, then he needs a reason for it, a purpose to serve. A relevant plot purpose. Kishi is not the type of writer to do things for seemingly no reason. You did not provide one and as such your theory is incomplete and invalid.

its to redeem obito cuz he wasnt the one who manipulated yagura...controlled kurama and slaughtred uchiha cal...it was all madara..i.e...madara dizerves to be the finall villain simply cuz he was the masked man tobi = the final villain is still the masked man...YOU ARE JUST VICTIM OF KISHIMOTOS GENJUTSU...WHILE I CAN SEE CLEARLY THROUGH IT

 

[ssjelf]

its to redeem obito cuz he wasnt the one who manipulated yagura...controlled kurama and slaughtred uchiha cal...it was all madara..i.e...madara dizerves to be the finall villain simply cuz he was the masked man tobi = the final villain is still the masked man...YOU ARE JUST VICTIM OF KISHIMOTOS GENJUTSU...WHILE I CAN SEE CLEARLY THROUGH IT

No that doesn't mak sense either as it was clearly Obito within the whit Mask who still has killed many people i.e. the Juubi TBB that killed Shikamaru's Dad.

 

[minamoto]

I think this scan makes obvious the fact that the guy inside spiralZ have short hair!

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Isn't that a proof that it isn't Madara?

actually its a proof that he is madara!!!!!

 

[SAGE OF 777 PATH]

Dont want to bash anyone but come on this theory is utterly ridiculous let stick with the obvious and say it yamato being possessed by spiral zetsu just like black zetsu possessed obito body and was using his techniques to fight kakshi and minato. You guys sometimes make things more difficult than they need to be with these farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfethched theories lol

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Dont want to bash anyone but come on this theory is utterly ridiculous let stick with the obvious and say it yamato being possessed by spiral zetsu just like black zetsu possessed obito body and was using his techniques to fight kakshi and minato. You guys sometimes make things more difficult than they need to be with these farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfethched theories lol

Seems legit bro

 

[Angelic.]

spiral would not be capable of using perfect mokuton. the only ones capable of that are the first and yamato. its not old madara bc hes old and dead.

 

[Flakez]

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Haha.

 

[SkylineGTR]

Came by to laugh at this guy in another one of his threads.

Has anyone noticed he removed his avatar once Obito was revealed NOT to be in the White Zetsu outfit?

 

[Vapid]

There is no "Second Madara"...

Orochimaru knew it was Yamato.

Oh, did I mention that the guy inside of SZ was Yamato?