[VS] Prime Minato vs Prime Nagato

[Bogard]

Battlefield: Destroyed Konoha
Restrictions: None
Distance: 50m

Conditions

Prime Minato capacities

- All Base Minato capacities showed so far
- This Minato completed the rasengan by adding his elemental affinity(for the sake of the thread, let's say he was a fuuton user, so basically like Naruto's Rasenshuriken)
- He get's Naruto's sage mode control(whether in the mode entrance, time limit, frog katas and so on)

Versus​

Prime Nagato capacities

- All his combat feats showed so far
- Mobile and healthy

So who wins?

 

[KingHashirama]

Minato merck. rofl.

You have the guy with the best mobility in the manga vs the guy with the worst.. zzzz

Oh you said Nagato has his mobility i know, but look at the edo tensei fight, even when he healed himself up again, Kabuto still stated his mobility was quite bad.

But lets say he has his mobility. To keep up with Minato by using the rinnegan will be a problem for him. As we know the rinnegan requires whole lot of chakra. And we also know that Pain's "huge chakra reserves" were also credited to the fact that Nagato was in one place and is able to not waste chakra on physical movement aka stamina. And plus easier to gather chakra that way.


So the problem with Nagato will in the end be his chakra reserves and stamina. Though he has a whole lot of chakra.. but the offense he will need to keep with Minato uses too much of it.. Hence Pain is more effective in this case.

But I can see "prime " Minato taking it mid-diff.

 

[LuckyMan]

Minato would come out the victor.

Nagato cannot react to his FTG.

 

[RustledJimmies]

Nagato wins even with the conditions, Pain has shown to be able to absorb FRS infused with Senjutsu Chakra without getting turned to stone, the only reason Naruto turned Gakido to stone was because he was standing still while Gakido was holding him, thus Naruto got an infinite supply of SM chakra while Gakido kept continuously absorbing the chakra until he turned to stone, other than that, the outcome of this fight doesn't change at all.

 

[LuckyMan]

Nagato wins even with the conditions, Pain has shown to be able to absorb FRS infused with Senjutsu Chakra without getting turned to stone, the only reason Naruto turned Gakido to stone was because he was standing still while Gakido was holding him, thus Naruto got infinite supply of SM chakra while Gakido kept continuously absorbing the chakra until he turned to stone, other than that, the outcome of this fight doesn't change at all.

You explained how Nagato can absorb the rasenshuriken but not how he wins.

 

[Bogard]

Nagato wins even with the conditions, Pain has shown to be able to absorb FRS infused with Senjutsu Chakra without getting turned to stone, the only reason Naruto turned Gakido to stone was because he was standing still while Gakido was holding him, thus Naruto got infinite supply of SM chakra while Gakido kept continuously absorbing the chakra until he turned to stone, other than that, the outcome of this fight doesn't change at all.

I know that U_U But i don't think it will be the deciding factor here. You're greatly forgetting the advantages of SM. More strength, durability, sage sensing, sage clones, fire power(FRS) alongside summons(Pa/Ma for example)

 

[A v i]

With intel Nagato wins this without a doubt.Without intel Minato wins regardless of whether it is SM or not.Distance plays a huge role here.

 

[Bogard]

With intel Nagato wins this without a doubt.Without intel Minato wins regardless of whether it is SM or not.Distance plays a huge role here.

So you really think SM makes no difference here [

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[RustledJimmies]

You explained how Nagato can absorb the rasenshuriken but not how he wins.

It wasn't of my intention to do it, I don't have any interest in this match-up, especially because of the Minato fanboys here, I was just pointing that out before people started saying that Minato's Senjutsu turns Nagato to stone, other than that the match-up is the same.

I know that But i don't think it will be the deciding factor here. You're greatly forgetting the advantages of SM. More strength, durability, sage sensing, sage clones, fire power(FRS) alongside summons(Pa/Ma for example)

That's the only way Minato could win this fight, and even that isn't an option. All of the stuff you listed gets countered thhe same way he counters Minato's base arsenal, nothing actually changes.

 

[Blue Flash Of The Senju]

Nagato rapes.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Still isn't enough to overcome Nagato.

 

[Bogard]

That's the only way Minato could win this fight, and even that isn't an option. All of the stuff you listed gets countered thhe same way he counters Minato's base arsenal, nothing actually changes.

His main defenses are gakidou and shinra tensei. There is 5second time limit for shinra tensei that can be exploited by a double Rasenshuriken [

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] He would need gakidou to absorb in this case(if he can't dodge) and it takes quite some time to be exploited [

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[KingHashirama]

That's the only way Minato could win this fight, and even that isn't an option. All of the stuff you listed gets countered thhe same way he counters Minato's base arsenal, nothing actually changes.

1. Minato won't throw anything to counter after the first time he sees it

2. He will go for the Kage bunshin attack on Nagato to check out the skills.

3. He'll inevitably figure out the 5 second problem with Nagato. Though he can finish it within 2-3 seconds

4. Already forgetting the FTG trap?

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

His main defenses are gakidou and shinra tensei. There is 5second time limit for shinra tensei that can be exploited by a double Rasenshuriken [

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] He would need gakidou to absorb in this case(if he can't dodge) and it takes quite some time to be exploited [

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], in case SM Minato doesn't actually do a physical manoeuver where he totally outclasses Nagato

The rule only applies to pain not Nagato.

 

[KingHashirama]

The rule only applies to pain not Nagato.

can you refresh the memory by presenting the scan or telling where it was stated?

 

[Hokage Jay]

Nagato can move the only reason Naruto won cause he was on the verge of death like 10 minutes left of life

 

[lhatefanboys]

Wouldn't CT end it?

 

[Bogard]

Wouldn't CT end it?

I was waiting for this U_U

The Chibaku tensei was countered by a 3 against 1 combination attack made of one rasenshuriken, a bijudama and magatamas [

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I believe Minato can replicate this combination with the help of clones and multiple rasenshurikens
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One Rasenshuriken was capable to cover half the crater of the CT Nagato used in Konoha

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[VongolaX]

Minato wins

When moving at the speed of light, only a few stands a chance.

Someone as senile as Nagato with mobility can be beaten with some explosive tags on his feet, with an additional head slice.

What's the point of all that power and not being able to do anything with it?

He needs speed...

Riding inside the invisible chameleon won't cut it either.

 

[VongolaX]

I was waiting for this U_U

The Chibaku tensei was countered by a 3 against 1 combination attack made of one rasenshuriken, a bijudama and magatamas [

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]

I believe Minato can replicate this combination with the help of clones and multiple rasenshurikens
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One Rasenshuriken was capable to cover half the crater of the CT Nagato used in Konoha

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Senpou oodama rasengan barrage can destroy ct?

I've always thought this but...