[VS] Current Kakashi vs Healthy Kimimmaro

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Nah I mean he shoots them them while he's shooting the bones while swinging, because he only uses one hand for the spine swing. Such consecutiv attack would most likely require the sharingan to doge, because Kimi swinging, while putting his hand vertically (imagine a y-axis) and shooting would make it near impossible to dodge. He does if he isn't engulfed with the spin that's holding him. He has to move freely to go down, considering the only reason they go down is because they are making the ground beneath them into liquid (correct me if i'm wrong.)

What? You don't regenerate by destroying cells. You split cells or create them out of nothing, i'm leaning more towards splitting.
I was implying the hiding like a mole-->raikiri to the chest, which is debatably not even possible or in character. People make it seem like Kakashi uses raikiri in every offence he uses, not only is it out of character, but will also be extremely chakra consuming.

His clones won't be strong against Kimi. 1000 KN clones failed to land a single hit. A few Kakashi clones won't do much better, especially the ones which zap nothing. Doubt he can use mass clones like the zabuza fight to do anything considering the dance of camelia should insta-end these clones.
Anyways, stops most momentum of raikir, never reaching his body, tanks any taijutsu, heals any attacks, can end with a single attack. Hell, Kimi can allow himself to be hit and then use finger bones to end considering they penetrated a decent amount of sand with pure torque and speed. Then he proceeds to heal and wins. Going Bone forest would bee overkill to be honest, not only Kakashi won't sense it, he also won't know where Kimi is with no sharingan, so goes behind him and one shots.

Nigguh why you tripping for. Prince Charles is trolling you, he knows Kimimaro > Current Kakashi :cool:
 

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Nigguh why you tripping for. Prince Charles is trolling you, he knows Kimimaro > Current Kakashi :cool:
lmao Prince Charles isn't trolling. I already know that he believes Kimi wins, but his beliefs of Kakashi being capable of keeping up, using clones in any proficient way against someone who can be seen as a clone 'dissipator', and the fact he believes his healing isn't second to none.
Edit: I was in class so I had some shîtty grammar**
 
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His own attacks dont hurt him. Just like everyone else's attacks dont hurt them. Chidori should damage hands but it doesnt.

front lotus,gates,naruto's frs,juubi's bijudama hurt their users at one point.

kimimaro's skin gets ripped apart whenever he uses his bones,so clearly it is doing damage,however the fact that that skin that was opened up closes back means he regenerates.

It is not about being hurt,it is about covering up the danage done to his body by the bones. When he ripped out his spine,clearly there was skin that got opened,however next thing its closed up,thats healing.

He healed from gaara's sand coffin too
 

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lmao Prince Charles isn't trolling. I already know that he believes Kimi wins, but his beliefs of Kakashi being capable of keeping up, using clones in any proficient way against someone who can be seen as a clone 'dissipator', and the fact he believes his healing isn't second to none.
Edit: I was in class so I had some shîtty grammar**

I know everything about Kimi dawg. Me and you both know Prince of Turning Up is wrong.
 

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I know everything about Kimi dawg. Me and you both know Prince of Turning Up is wrong.
True, true. I've seen your Kimi threads pre-perma, good shît mane. Prince 3hunna is overrating Kakashi/underrating Kimi doe, scrubs.
 

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Can't see how Kakashi wins here. Kimimaro is extremely agile and can protect himself in close range battle with his Kekkei Genkai [ ][ ], latter even while Lee had his gates activated and moved towards Kimi with full speed. Can Kakashi dodge ? Lee's speed databook score is inferior to Kakashi's in part 1, yet the Sake he drunk made him extremely agile and his moves unpredictable, as Kimi mentioned. Kimimaro himself is extremely agile, hence he dodged all attacks of Base Lee with outmost ease.
 

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Can't see how Kakashi wins here. Kimimaro is extremely agile and can protect himself in close range battle with his Kekkei Genkai [ ][ ], latter even while Lee had his gates activated and moved towards Kimi with full speed. Can Kakashi dodge ? Lee's speed databook score is inferior to Kakashi's in part 1, yet the Sake he drunk made him extremely agile and his moves unpredictable, as Kimi mentioned. Kimimaro himself is extremely agile, hence he dodged all attacks of Base Lee with outmost ease.
The samurai chakra blade could put a dent on his bones. A lightning infused blade(especially strong lightning like raikiri) could cut it like butter. Trying to guard himself against such an attack would be his downfall if anything. You have to possess enough durability to proceed this way something he is lacking here in the face of Kakashi's lightning attacks.
 

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Do you have a scan of the Raiton's piercing and cutting extent and how much superior it is to non elemental Chakra? Mifune also clashed with a sword which was enhanced with Raiton and tied. He is the most experienced Samurai, but it' still non elemental Chakra and was never considered considerably stronger. The Samurai easily cut through boulders and threes but admitted how hard the bones are, as the sword can't even get through one.

Assuming Raikiri could pierce his body (I actually believe it can), Kimimaro is still way more agile.

Kakashi will never dodge . If Kimimaro can dodge , he will easily dodge Kakashi's linear attack. No doubt.
 

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Kakashi might be able to pierce kimi's bones in base,but when he goes cursed seal mode,i dont think it will do much.
Orochimaru had already witnessed kakashi's raikiri but he and kabuto still retained the belief that kimi's bones were nigh indestructable
 

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So its been decided. Kimimmaro officially defeats current sharingan-less Kakashi
 

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Kakashi wins - much higher chakra reserves now due to no sharingan. He can use his 1000 jutsu in order to distract Kimimaro / protect himself from bones and just raikiri.
Easy.
 

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You're welcome.

I'll murder Kakashi when I hop on my laptop.

No, you still haven't shown him healing you just assumed he wa healing from his own attacks which is like saying Sasuke is flame retardant cause he held Amaterasu's flames

Then you fallaciously compare him to Tsunade

But whatever everyone's ab expert apparently and can somehow point out abilities Kishi forgot to
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No, you still haven't shown him healing you just assumed he wa healing from his own attacks which is like saying Sasuke is flame retardant cause he held Amaterasu's flames

Then you fallaciously compare him to Tsunade

But whatever everyone's ab expert apparently and can somehow point out abilities Kishi forgot to
Mention

What hell is wrong with you? Are you slow or something?
 

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Proof, I thought we agreed Kimimaro's 'passive regeneration' is only an assumption. You can't use this in a VS thread. But aside from this, he still defeats Kakashi with mid-high difficulty.
 

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Kakashi wins. Raiton pierced diamond, Kimmimaro's bones are just stronger than Steel. Not much Kimmi can do to defend against it.

Kakashi blocks the worst of Kimmi's attacks with Domu Lol.
 

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Kakashi wins. Raiton pierced diamond, Kimmimaro's bones are just stronger than Steel. Not much Kimmi can do to defend against it.

Doton: Domu is Earth, taking the properties of Diamond. Of course Raiton > Doton and overall diminishes the Diamond-Like Hardness Doton: Domu inherits due to the elemental advantage. This logic is flawed by that very fact.
 

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Proof, I thought we agreed Kimimaro's 'passive regeneration' is only an assumption. You can't use this in a VS thread. But aside from this, he still defeats Kakashi with mid-high difficulty.

I never agreed to Kimimaro's passive-regeneration to be an assumption bud. I agreed on the fact that assumption lies in if he could regenerate organs or not. It obvious in the thread he can regenerate those who disagree are blind. It's clear as day.
 

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Doton: Domu is Earth, taking the properties of Diamond. Of course Raiton > Doton and overall diminishes the Diamond-Like Hardness Doton: Domu inherits due to the elemental advantage. This logic is flawed by that very fact.

And? So are you trying to suggest the damage threshold drops to the bottom of the scale because of this? That diamond - the hardest non-alloy substance on earth is even moderately compared to steel? Two completely opposite ends of the spectrum; yes, it may have indeed diminished the durability, but to assume that it falls beneath the level of steel is a flawed premise. Simply because of the element chart doesn't ignore the strength of Jutsu, a good example of this is when Madara, with a Katon Jutsu, required numerous Shinobi to use Suiton in conjunction to negate it, even then they only neutralised it, but couldn't overwhelm it.

It's not far off the mark; Orochimaru's sword of Kusanagi caused minor damage to Enma's adamantine staff, but couldn't even scratch a Kyuubi chakra cloak, yet Kakashi's lighting cutter used in conjunction with Kage Bushin cut through numerous chakra arms. And there is no evidence to suggest that the other Kage Bushin added to anything other than the scale of the attack.
 
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And? So are you trying to suggest the damage threshold drops to the bottom of the scale because of this? That diamond - the hardest non-alloy substance on earth is even moderately compared to steel? Two completely opposite ends of the spectrum; yes, it may have indeed diminished the durability, but to assume that it falls beneath the level of steel is a flawed premise. Simply because of the element chart doesn't ignore the strength of Jutsu, a good example of this is when Madara, with a Katon Jutsu, required numerous Shinobi to use Suiton in conjunction to negate it, even then they only neutralised it, but couldn't overwhelm it.

It's not far off the mark; Orochimaru's sword of Kusanagi caused minor damage to Enma's adamant one staff, but couldn't even scratch a Kyuubi chakra cloak, yet Kakashi's lighting cutter used in conjunction with Kage Bushin cut through numerous chakra arms. And there is no evidence to suggest that the other Kage Bushin added to anything other than the scale of the attack.

What I'm implying is that due to the very obvious Raiton > Earth fact Doton: Domu just becomes Earth (Rock), nothing more, nothing less. Seeing as Physical Techniques witnessed the Diamond-Like Hardness full-effect eg; Choji colliding with Kakuzu, and Kakuzu Tanking it, or The Exploding Kunai which Kakuzu tanked as well.

Your comparison using Madara isn't so much a good one due to:

I. Madara being an Edo (at the time), as well having multiple Bodily Modification due to Kabuto's tempering.
II. The Chakra limit is cancelled due to Edo Tensei, allowed Madara to cast a stronger, more potent, and resistant Katon.
III. The Fodders (if I can recall) used basic Suiton to neutralize the Katon.

The Elemental Chart doesn't ignore strength you're correct. But Kakuzu, and Madara are two different beings. Kakashi's Raikiri, and the Fodders who used Basic Suiton are two different situations. In the end, I do believe that the Elemental Advantage cancelled out the Diamond-Like Structure.

The Kyuubi's Corrosive Bodily Chakra, and Chakra Arms are a bit different. Orochimaru aimed at a moreso stronger point of the body, the chest area (I do believe). Your arms are more-likely to be decapitated rather than your torso, you can classify the parts into Ranks of durability if I may.

Corrosive Chakra Cloaked Torso - S Ranked
Chakra Cloaked Arms - B Ranked

Plus, the fact that Orochimaru implied that Naruto within his enraged-state possessed a Corrosive (Harmful/Destructive) more-so probably added to the durability of the cloak. Thus, comparing the two can't be done.
 
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