Danzo vs Kakuzu

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Both of them should posses a life time experience in battle, though Kakuze needs to die 5 times and Danzo probably 10 times or more to be confirmed dead.

I'll give it to Kakuzu because he's very efficient at using his different elements range compared to Danzo who's very reckless with Izanagi.

Who do you think would win?
 
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Danzo should win after the seal is put onto Kakuzu.
 

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Danzo Low diff .
 

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Danzo take this low diff...................
 

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Kakuzu mid-difficulty. No intel means that he would not bring the masks out to open for slaughter. Danzō doesn't possess anything that can penetrate Domu, and is at major disadvantage in Taijutsu due to hard attacks. Danzō as an old man, possesses much less stamina than Kakuzu, who is nigh-immortal. The battle comes down to CQC, in which anyone loses who doesn't possess Raiton, diamond penetrating attack or a method to seal away or expose his real body.
 

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Kakuzu mid-difficulty. No intel means that he would not bring the masks out to open for slaughter. Danzō doesn't possess anything that can penetrate Domu, and is at major disadvantage in Taijutsu due to hard attacks. Danzō as an old man, possesses much less stamina than Kakuzu, who is nigh-immortal. The battle comes down to CQC, in which anyone loses who doesn't possess Raiton, diamond penetrating attack or a method to seal away or expose his real body.
Fact remains that Kakuzu has no counter measures to Danzo's juinjtusu. It is apparent that a large amount of chakra needs to be expended in order to release the immobilisation of the seal. Kakuzu has no such capabilities. More so, no intel means no knowledge of Izanagi. No knowledge of Izanagi means he can catch him offguard from behind while Domu is off. Sasuke only was capable of stopping the first Izanagi sneak attack because of Susano and Danzo speaking. No reason to believe Kakuzu will use Domu even after he believes he has won. Nigh-immortal? Really? In combat he is as mortal as anyone else is. Kakuzu gets the seal on him after first Izanagi, Kakuzu can have Domu on, it doesn't matter, Baku swallows him whole.
 

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Depends on really one small detail.....

When Baku is summoned if Kakuzu is facing the creature when used then he can pull it off, however if he's facing the opposite direction its GG.

The seal is useless, Kakuzu is not a CQC shinobi
 

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Depends on really one small detail.....

When Baku is summoned if Kakuzu is facing the creature when used then he can pull it off, however if he's facing the opposite direction its GG.

The seal is useless, Kakuzu is not a CQC shinobi
Doesn't have to be. Danzo closes the distance and Kakuzu kills with a domu punch. Then Danzo comes from behind him and puts the seal. Bakku gg.
 

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No need to attack kakuzu to use the seal

izanagi can be used to attack kakuzu from blind side
 

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Doesn't have to be. Danzo closes the distance and Kakuzu kills with a domu punch. Then Danzo comes from behind him and puts the seal. Bakku gg.

Nah my man, TBH after one round of Danzo reviving with Izanagi i don't see why Kakuzu wouldn't just go to restrain him with threads to win this fight. Also Kakuzu's Katon negates any "distance closing" As it engulfs the ground making it improbable to travel on.

Allssooo Danzo can't merely spawn wherever he wants in the battle my man >.> If that were true he would of easily beaten Sasuke.
 

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Nah my man, TBH after one round of Danzo reviving with Izanagi i don't see why Kakuzu wouldn't just go to restrain him with threads to win this fight. Also Kakuzu's Katon negates any "distance closing" As it engulfs the ground making it improbable to travel on.

Allssooo Danzo can't merely spawn wherever he wants in the battle my man >.> If that were true he would of easily beaten Sasuke.
Lml I have no reason to argue the first 2 points. Atsugai is izanagi'd and Kakuzu will believe he dodged it, since he doesn't sense and won't see in the chaos.
But he can. Sasuke only didn't lose to it because he had Susano on. The first Izanagi, Sasuke kills him and Danzo attacks from behind susano. Had there been no susano, and had Danzo not spoken to give away he was alive, Sasuke would be potentially dead. Kakuzu, on the other hand, had shown efficient usage of his Domu and immediately turns it on and off when required/not required.
 

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Fact remains that Kakuzu has no counter measures to Danzo's juinjtusu. It is apparent that a large amount of chakra needs to be expended in order to release the immobilisation of the seal. Kakuzu has no such capabilities. More so, no intel means no knowledge of Izanagi. No knowledge of Izanagi means he can catch him offguard from behind while Domu is off. Sasuke only was capable of stopping the first Izanagi sneak attack because of Susano and Danzo speaking. No reason to believe Kakuzu will use Domu even after he believes he has won. Nigh-immortal? Really? In combat he is as mortal as anyone else is. Kakuzu gets the seal on him after first Izanagi, Kakuzu can have Domu on, it doesn't matter, Baku swallows him whole.

It doesn't matter, the masks can move at his will. Kakuzu can activate the masks from inside his body even when immobilized as it doesn't require any kind of hand seal nor significant movement. The Domu stays activated all the time, which requires no movement at all. Even when he's immobilized, he can still fight perfectly; while Danzō still has nothing on Kakuzu except Baku which can be countered with Katon.
 

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Lml I have no reason to argue the first 2 points. Atsugai is izanagi'd and Kakuzu will believe he dodged it, since he doesn't sense and won't see in the chaos.

When did i mention Atsugai? I said Katon, regardless he's going to know that he didn't dodge it as the only way to do so is to end up on the other side of the mask, Which he can plainly look for.

But he can. Sasuke only didn't lose to it because he had Susano on. The first Izanagi, Sasuke kills him and Danzo attacks from behind susano. Had there been no susano, and had Danzo not spoken to give away he was alive, Sasuke would be potentially dead. Kakuzu, on the other hand, had shown efficient usage of his Domu and immediately turns it on and off when required/not required.

But why would he turn on the Domu if he can deliver a killing blow instead? Instead of using domu he would begin impaling Danzo with threads that he can spawn from any point in his body (notice how they spawned from the chest in the scan) Kakuzu's been able to react to ambushes multiple times before. Besides its common for a shinobi to check all directions when losing sight of your opponent




@Uchiha Nagashi, the hearts would have to be outside the body already, but in most scenarios that would be the case so yeah that works as well.
 

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When did i mention Atsugai? I said Katon, regardless he's going to know that he didn't dodge it as the only way to do so is to end up on the other side of the mask, Which he can plainly look for.



But why would he turn on the Domu if he can deliver a killing blow instead? Instead of using domu he would begin impaling Danzo with threads that he can spawn from any point in his body (notice how they spawned from the chest in the scan) Kakuzu's been able to react to ambushes multiple times before. Besides its common for a shinobi to check all directions when losing sight of your opponent




@Uchiha Nagashi, the hearts would have to be outside the body already, but in most scenarios that would be the case so yeah that works as well.

I was referring to this. Here, he had his masks on his body.

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I was referring to this. Here, he had his masks on his body.

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Yes but with Domu he can't undo the stitching and release them. So all he could do was fire jutsu backwards which would be futile.
 

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When did i mention Atsugai? I said Katon, regardless he's going to know that he didn't dodge it as the only way to do so is to end up on the other side of the mask, Which he can plainly look for.

my fault, I meant Zukkoku or however you spell it. Thought atsugai was his katon for a second. Anyways, he Izanagi's away from it and Kakuzu doesn't really know anything apart from Danzo being active, meaning he's alive.

But why would he turn on the Domu if he can deliver a killing blow instead? Instead of using domu he would begin impaling Danzo with threads that he can spawn from any point in his body (notice how they spawned from the chest in the scan) Kakuzu's been able to react to ambushes multiple times before. Besides its common for a shinobi to check all directions when losing sight of your opponent


And Danzo can't use izanagi to leave such a jutsu? Anyways, KA itself would end this fight, or at least give room for Baku to swallow him before he's out of it, if ever. Izanagi occurs instantly, so he'l probably be behind Kakuzu while Kakuzu is in belief he is about to reach his Futon heart. Nothing suggests he will do a full body domu just for that, and if he does, he will be extremely vulnerable for the seal. Kakuzu doesn't start use his hearts pre-intel gathering, you've even said this on multiple occasions.

@Uchiha Nagashi I disagree. His entire body begins moving when he uses the masks. Nothing implies he can move under the effects of the seal. And as you already stated, with no intel he doesn't start off with the hearts. Baku ends.
 
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Yes but with Domu he can't undo the stitching and release them. So all he could do was fire jutsu backwards which would be futile.

Why wouldn't he be able to undo them while using Domu?

my fault, I meant Zukkoku or however you spell it. Thought atsugai was his katon for a second. Anyways, he Izanagi's away from it and Kakuzu doesn't really know anything apart from Danzo being active, meaning he's alive.

But why would he turn on the Domu if he can deliver a killing blow instead? Instead of using domu he would begin impaling Danzo with threads that he can spawn from any point in his body (notice how they spawned from the chest in the scan) Kakuzu's been able to react to ambushes multiple times before. Besides its common for a shinobi to check all directions when losing sight of your opponent


And Danzo can't use izanagi to leave such a jutsu? Anyways, KA itself would end this fight, or at least give room for Baku to swallow him before he's out of it, if ever. Izanagi occurs instantly, so he'l probably be behind Kakuzu while Kakuzu is in belief he is about to reach his Futon heart. Nothing suggests he will do a full body domu just for that, and if he does, he will be extremely vulnerable for the seal. Kakuzu doesn't start use his hearts pre-intel gathering, you've even said this on multiple occasions.

@Uchiha Nagashi I disagree. His entire body begins moving when he uses the masks. Nothing implies he can move under the effects of the seal. And as you already stated, with no intel he doesn't start off with the hearts. Baku ends.

No, they don't require movements.

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