Choji vs Kakuzu

[TheAncientCenturion]

Kakashi's pre cognitive abilities didn't do that, it was all his base skills that allowed him to react. Both are made up of chakra.

Let me ask you this, zex. If I stab an ant with a pin, it will die. If I stab YOU with a pin, will you die? No, minorly hurt. Kakuzu is the ant. Choji is you.

 

[Apêx1]

Kakashi's pre cognitive abilities didn't do that, it was all his base skills that allowed him to react. Both are made up of chakra.

Let me ask you this, zex. If I stab an ant with a pin, it will die. If I stab YOU with a pin, will you die? No, minorly hurt. Kakuzu is the ant. Choji is you.

Brilliant analogy fellow Centurion. I completely agree +rep.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Brilliant analogy fellow Centurion. I completely agree +rep.

These Akatsuki wankers just don't realize how Choji has surpassed most of them, Kakuzu included.

 

[Gamaken]

Kakashi's pre cognitive abilities didn't do that, it was all his base skills that allowed him to react. Both are made up of chakra.

Let me ask you this, zex. If I stab an ant with a pin, it will die. If I stab YOU with a pin, will you die? No, minorly hurt. Kakuzu is the ant. Choji is you.

Wouldn't you be hurt if your feet and legs got scorched by flames?

 

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One wind technique -

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One fire technique -

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A combination -

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The combination has some pretty intense flames. It's not going to be hard to hit giant Chouji with it, and if he gets hit at all he's going to sustain some serious burns. The wind mask on its own has shown that it can easily pierce thick objects with its wind, so Chouji is still going take damage.

Also, Chouji doesn't take the masks out as easily as you'd think, as seen here -

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And compare that combination to Kakashi. As you can see, it's not much larger than a human being. Chouji is as big as Gedo Mazou which is as big as the Bijuu so Chouji easily dwarfs anything that can be compared to humans. Using the Chakra shroud

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, Chouji can quite easily slap those flames away. At best they could burn his feet, but Chouji can simply apply the Chakra shroud to his feet so he can protect them from the fire.

And Chouji has grown much more since then. His wings can create shockwaves and winds that can crush the masks, seeing as how Tenten could crush them with a fuuton technique. His spiked ball technique can easily crush Kakuzu and his masks while tanking anything they throw at him. And lastly, his Chakra shroud is much more powerful now as you can see.

He's not making it in time. Chōji was already slow before, when not even using his jutsu to multiply his size. Adding mass would also make him significantly slower. He'd need to see the bolt, punch the air and make it all way through while bolt is still in mid-air. If he punches that size of air (fist), the air would create a wall that slows his punch down. He'd be slower than slow. If Kakashi managed to be just in time, how do you think Chōji will?

And the difference here is that the Raiton will also have to travel much more, seeing as how Chouji stands well above the ground. Simply using the wings, Chakra shrouds or creating a wind won't take much time. Or at least, the first two won't at all.

 

[Zexion~]

Sigh, you're being biased. This is not normal lighting. It never was. Raiton is a electric spear nothing more. Nothing implies it works exactly as lightning and wouldn't be affected by the gust of wind. More so, shockwaves Chouji created can definitely move it. And lastly, the Chakra shroud Chouji uses can tank it or he can use his wings. Nothing Gian can do here.

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Can you not freaking read, the words lightning bolt are right there my man :| Jesus, Pretty sure his chakra shroud isn't tanking something that took a raikiri to stop :| Not to mention his wings are not tanking devices :| They are merely a manifestation of his chakra. Again, Has no way of tanking something he can't see coming.

Precog or not, it doesn't matter lmao. Kakashi was just hit by a huge gust of wind created by Kakuzu and managed to exit, regain his awareness and quickly intercepted Gian. Gian is not that fast, LOL. In fact, Shikamaru managed to open a scroll and Ino managed to get out of from behind a tree. LOL, you're acting like Chouji won't do anything. The gust of wind created and the shockwaves will crush the masks, seeing as how it crushed rocks. More so, he can use his wings and hardened hair to tank anything. If he uses the spiky ball technique and keeps on moving around while being giant he can crush anything while he would also be tanking everything with his metallic hair armor.

Well clearly you don't know Kakuzu, his Jutsu isn't a gust of wind so he didn't go anywhere, he avoided it by moving to around the heart. You mean that same technique that he tanked effortlessly already? Lml, THE MASKS FLY MAN, XD He isn't crushing anything



So its you huh >.> You really are almost as stubborn as me,

 

[Zexion~]

Kakashi's pre cognitive abilities didn't do that, it was all his base skills that allowed him to react. Both are made up of chakra.

Let me ask you this, zex. If I stab an ant with a pin, it will die. If I stab YOU with a pin, will you die? No, minorly hurt. Kakuzu is the ant. Choji is you.

Ah but what if that pin stabs directly through me? Hitting a vital organ in the process, Which is what Chouji allows when he enlarges himself and his organs U_U

 

[Apêx1]

These Akatsuki wankers just don't realize how Choji has surpassed most of them, Kakuzu included.

Agreed. Akatsuki was never really that strong, they believed in the american dream and ended up being denied. It wasn't meant for everyone in the first place, akatsuki included. I understand Maybe Healthy Nagato have a chance if Chouji underrates him. The rest lose.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Wouldn't you be hurt of your feet and legs got scorched by flames?

To Choji, the flames are nothing more than the dying sparks of a campfire. Something he is use to, he and Ino have a thing for the outdoors and go on camping trips often enough. . . Young love.

But yes, it will hurt. But nothing that will be deadly.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Kakashi's pre cognitive abilities didn't do that, it was all his base skills that allowed him to react. Both are made up of chakra.

Let me ask you this, zex. If I stab an ant with a pin, it will die. If I stab YOU with a pin, will you die? No, minorly hurt. Kakuzu is the ant. Choji is you.

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How exactly is Chōji even going to kill him?

 

[Zexion~]

Honestly though let me just Counter AC's pathetic arguments U_U

In fact id happily debate this with him right here and now

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Agreed. Akatsuki was never really that strong, they believed in the american dream and ended up being denied. It wasn't meant for everyone in the first place, akatsuki included. I understand Maybe Healthy Nagato have a chance if Chouji underrates him. The rest lose.

Yeah. Akatsuki is basically low Part 2 power scaling at best. Current Choji is end game, fighting the Juubi jin. arc level.

Ah but what if that pin stabs directly through me? Hitting a vital organ in the process, Which is what Chouji allows when he enlarges himself and his organs U_U

If the pin stabs through you, you've got shit level durability Zex.

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How exactly is Chōji even going to kill him?

Either through digesting Kakuzu, stepping on him, or throwing him a mountains range away

 

[Zexion~]

Yeah. Akatsuki is basically low Part 2 power scaling at best. Current Choji is end game, fighting the Juubi jin. arc level.


If the pin stabs through you, you've got shit level durability Zex.

Or the pin merely has incredibly piercing properties, as said pin is stated to have in the DB

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[Apêx1]

Honestly though let me just Counter AC's pathetic arguments U_U

In fact id happily debate this with him right here and now

Lml you wish. You wouldn't be happy when all your arguments are debunked. Chouji wins, stop being desperate for arguments. I told you Gian doesn't work, the circulation of Chouji's body will make it useless.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Or the pin merely has incredibly piercing properties, as said pin is stated to have in the DB

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This pin's peircing capabilities are hindered by the fact that it doesn't have the force to push through Choji's blubber. The pin is pathetic and you confirmed that your durability is shit, making you yourself low tier on NB.

 

[Zexion~]

Lml you wish. You wouldn't be happy when all your arguments are debunked. Chouji wins, stop being desperate for arguments. I told you Gian doesn't work, the circulation of Chouji's body will make it useless.

Oh i actually didn't see why you said that? Care to post again?

 

[Gamaken]

And compare that combination to Kakashi. As you can see, it's not much larger than a human being. Chouji is as big as Gedo Mazou which is as big as the Bijuu so Chouji easily dwarfs anything that can be compared to humans. Using the Chakra shroud

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, Chouji can quite easily slap those flames away. At best they could burn his feet, but Chouji can simply apply the Chakra shroud to his feet so he can protect them from the fire.

And Chouji has grown much more since then. His wings can create shockwaves and winds that can crush the masks, seeing as how Tenten could crush them with a fuuton technique. His spiked ball technique can easily crush Kakuzu and his masks while tanking anything they throw at him. And lastly, his Chakra shroud is much more powerful now as you can see.



And the difference here is that the Raiton will also have to travel much more, seeing as how Chouji stands well above the ground. Simply using the wings, Chakra shrouds or creating a wind won't take much time. Or at least, the first two won't at all.

I see your point. I forgot that Chouji had gotten a lot bigger when using that technique. I do think that that fire wind combination is bigger than it seems since you can only see part of it in that panel, and in (do I dare say it) the anime, that technique was pretty massive.

 

[Zexion~]

This pin's peircing capabilities are hindered by the fact that it doesn't have the force to push through Choji's blubber. The pin is pathetic and you confirmed that your durability is shit, making you yourself low tier on NB.

Lml Funny, But Blubber is not stopping a converged double bolts of lightning, giving it the piercing properties of two Raikiri XD

 

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Can you not freaking read, the words lightning bolt are right there my man :| Jesus, Pretty sure his chakra shroud isn't tanking something that took a raikiri to stop :| Not to mention his wings are not tanking devices :| They are merely a manifestation of his chakra. Again, Has no way of tanking something he can't see coming.

That doesn't mean much.. It's not the same as a normal lighting. It's a lightning bolt, yes, but one made out of Chakra. Not a natural one. Nothing states that these two are the same. Absolutely nothing. And his Chakra shroud can easily tear through solid rock so yes, it can. And his wings have physical form, so they can tank shit without Chouji being hurt. Gian doesn't have much destructive power. Stop being biased Zex. Kakuzu does not take this with low difficulty. In fact, Chouji stands a better chance.

Well clearly you don't know Kakuzu, his Jutsu isn't a gust of wind so he didn't go anywhere, he avoided it by moving to around the heart. You mean that same technique that he tanked effortlessly already? Lml, THE MASKS FLY MAN, XD He isn't crushing anything

False. No mask has shown to be capable of flying. In fact, not even the Fuuton one. What it does is gliding as Caterpillar once said. You have no proof that they fly. THEY JUMP. And lol, they don't tank shockwaves. Not at all.

So its you huh >.> You really are almost as stubborn as me,

Not even closely.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Lml Funny, But Blubber is not stopping a converged double bolts of lightning, giving it the piercing properties of two Raikiri XD

It's basically saying a harpoon can pierce a Blue Whale and kill it. Kakuzu will die of chakra exhaustion before he kills this blue whale, and before the Blue Whale literally devours him.