Obito was NOT Madaras pawn

[ObitoGokuKakashi]

So recently, I saw people everywhere saying, Ohh Madara did this thing there with Rin OMFG he is such a genius Obito is his puppet blabla.

So first, I think everyone knew that Madara was behind the Rin incident. I don't understand how this was not clear from the start. So I don't know why you all are losing your minds.

Yes it's true that Madara managed to drag Obito to his side but after that, Obito did act on his own. Because it became his WILL to create that Dreamworld.

First, he NEVER saw Madara as an allie.

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He never planned to revive Madara. If it wasn't for Kabuto, Madara would be still in his Grave & if you say, that BZ or WZ could do something in that case to Obito, to get him to revive Madara .. well, let me tell you this. Zetsu is WEAK. He couldn't do shit. A half dead Obito managed to take control over BZ. So, if Zetsu would try to go against Obito, Obito would rape him. Period.

We all know that Madaras plans didn't go as he wished.

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This guy had luck that things went out, the way they did.

Obito used Madaras name to fulfill his plans. For his own sake. Not for Madaras. So in this case, Obito used Madara, thus, Obito took control. Obito literally took control of everything at this point.

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Madara even failed with his curse seal that he put on Obitos heart to prevent Obito becoming JuubiJin. Obito was aware of that.

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Obito got ride of that risking his life to come closer to his dream.

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At this point, Obito would rather choose death than be controlled by Madara. This shows how much guts he had.

After becoming this

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Obito could easily get ride of Madara. He could have raped Madara in an instant if he wanted to.
at this point Madara was lucky to be plotshielded. If it wasn't for plot, Madara would have been gone right there. We all know that.

Last but not least, I want to mention, that Obitos dream was truly to create this Dreamworld but Madaras dream is just to let that Fruit grow and obtain it's power.

Madara just doesn't know what he wants. Is it Peace? Is it Power? This guy is just bad.

Thanks for reading.

 

[Xlad]

Of course he isn't' a puppet. He was tricked by the scheme. But he pretty much had his own mind; he doesn't consider Madara as a teammate of any sorts.

 

[Bronze]

Didn't read. Obito was a puppet./Thread.

 

[The7thHokage]

Didn't read. Obito was a puppet./Thread.

This is what I came to say.

Literally.

 

[Gerkak]

I agree. Madara may have tried to use obito in some way but obito was far from his puppet

 

[Obítō1]

agree with you he is not puppet XD

 

[Glovoc]

Hmm as mentioned above he was just messed about with, even though he had his own mind of things, i don't think he knew everything Madara did with him.

 

[Dantе]

i pity you obito fanbay ....
please try to get over emotions and accept truth

 

[Dantе]

i pity you obito fanbay ....
please try to get over emotions and accept truth

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

ultimately up to a point, Obito was a puppet then started making his own plans.. He never planned on revivng Madara. Kabuto threw a wrench into his plans however by reviving Madara. I think Madara's revival was going to happen eventually. I think the zetsu would have eventually done something.

 

[Umari Senju]

Agreed. Obito had a mind of his own. But he was still a pawn in Madara's scheme. But have you ever played chess?

If you have then you would know that it's the pawns that can bring the most powerful pieces back on the board...As well as checkmate the king.

Madara may have been the King, but his "pawn" ultimately ruled the game.

But I understand what you are getting at and I do agree with you. Obito was his own person and he overthrew Black Zetsu's will half dead so I don't think a fully functional Obito would have been taking over by BZ to perform rinne tensei for Madara either. Madara just got lucky...

which spawned my Aizen > Madara thread the other day, XD

 

[Zealous Sparks]

It's true all of Obito's actions were his own. However, all his actions were based upon the views of Madara, which he was manipulated into believing.

 

[Draphsin]

I like the effort, but unfortunately these kinds of threads will only attract obito haters.

Didn't read. Obito was a puppet./Thread.

This is what I came to say.

Literally.

i pity you obito fanbay ....
please try to get over emotions and accept truth

I rest my case.. u_u

 

[TonyDawn1379]

No he's not his pawn . He's his b****

 

[Sennin of Logic]

This is kind of true Actually. Obito was quite good and would have probably one their mind games if Naruto and Sasuke didn't weaken him.

 

[Klad]

Of course the majority will deny this man , people cannot handle the truth .

 

[Mark Sanchez]

Madara is lame, got revived by Kabuto out of sheer luck and says he planned everything :|

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

madara played him like a puppet and even gave him a curse mark puppet seal...thats manga facts....he might have willed to create the dream world on his own but did so after madara plotted and execute the killing of rin.

 

[xxxLegacy]

Lol Obito could only beat Kuro-Zetsu only cuz of Kurama ....

 

[Bronze]

You clearly don't understand how the puppet master seal jutsu works. It contains the orders of Madara and it manipulates the victim's actions. Obito was acting accordingly to the seal.

Madara told him to manipulate Nagato, which Obito did.
Madara told him to use his name, which Obito did.
Madara told him to gather all 9 Bijuu, which Obito did.

Obito even replicated Madara's personality and nature, as a proof of how much he is brainwashed. Obito agrees he was following Madara's orders [

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]. The only thing that went against the plan is Madara resurrected Edo Tensie, but even if he wasn't, black Zetsu would take the Rinnegan and force it on the victim to revive Madara.

2 manga facts that Obito was indeed a bitch [

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Obito's fappers are really trying their best. How sad.