So is the whole Naruto Manga Madara's plan after all?

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Now don't take it literal, but it seems like everything was a result of his plan. Apart from the sage and his mom.

correct me if i'm wrong but thats what it seems like. From the start, it seems like what he did became a result of the entire manga.
 

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Now don't take it literal, but it seems like everything was a result of his plan. Apart from the sage and his mom.

correct me if i'm wrong but thats what it seems like. From the start, it seems like what he did became a result of the entire manga.

Not likely. He didn't know of Naruto or Sasuke's existence before this arc. And as of yet, he doesn't have any connection to Orochimaru.
 

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no kushinas and minatos doing haha without them no naruto and no perfecttiming for obitoto steal the kyuubi
 

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Mostly part 2. The Zabuza arc, Chunnin Exams, search for Tsunade, etc. had nothing to do with Madara or the Sage
 

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i agree what what you guys say. but it seems like his plan caused everything that has happened so far.
 

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Mostly part 2. The Zabuza arc, Chunnin Exams, search for Tsunade, etc. had nothing to do with Madara or the Sage


yes you're right. that was kind of a side story to get to know the characters personalities.
 

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But, if Madara didn't do what he did.... would Naruto be the incarnation of Ashura?
 

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Mostly part 2. The Zabuza arc, Chunnin Exams, search for Tsunade, etc. had nothing to do with Madara or the Sage

This isn't true, because without Madara Naruto's parents wouldn't of died and Naruto wouldn't have the Nine tails. The arcs would have been different. Also the Uchiha Clan probably wouldn't of been exterminated.
 

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Madara planned everything, even in the real world.
 

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Did you seriously just call all of part 1 a side story?


part one was because of the 9 tails incident. if Madara didn't plan it all and Obito didn't do that what would of happened. So yes, it was for us to learn about the characters from that point on learn about how they started
 

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I really don't mind if someone posts facts to prove me wrong. I appreciate all sides of all arguments. I'm open to posts as long as you're not trying to be one sided
 

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Madara pretty much planned everything for his revival and taking over the world, but not everything went according to his plan (remember Nagato).
 

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Yes this entire naruto story line is madara s plan to collect all the bijuu and revive the juubi. The war wasn't apart of his plan but kabuto brought him back at his prime so that helped on great ways.
 

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part one was because of the 9 tails incident. if Madara didn't plan it all and Obito didn't do that what would of happened. So yes, it was for us to learn about the characters from that point on learn about how they started

Madara didn't tell Obito to attack Konoha.

NO, it was not. We are introduced to new characters throughout the entire series. Calling all of part one a side story to justify Madara's lack of involvement in it is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this forum.

Whether Naruto obtained Kurama or not, he still would have been Ashura's reincarnation and he still would have started out weak and talentless.

Orochimaru was the main antagonist of part one. It was not Madara who created him. It was not he who defeated him and it was not Nagato and Obito who revived him, but Kabuto.
 
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Madara didn't tell Obito to attack Konoha.

NO, it was not. We are introduced to new characters throughout the entire series. Calling all of part one a side story to justify Madara's lack of involvement in it is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this forum.

Whether Naruto obtained Kurama or not, he still would have been Ashura's reincarnation and he still would have started out weak and talentless.

Orochimaru was the main antagonist of part one. It was not Madara who created him. It was not he who defeated him and it was not Nagato and Obito who revived him, but Kabuto.

this is why i appreciate different comments and sides of my posts. But if Obito didn't do that then what?


i know this is just a fictional story but its great to see all sides of it.
 

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Madara didn't tell Obito to attack Konoha.

"Starting today you are... MADARA UCHIHA!" Few years later Obito attacks the leaf village in his behalf, clearly Madara's idea. How do you figure Obito knew when kushina's seal is at it's weakest? How do you figure he learned how to "summon" the 9 tails? How was he able to control it? Madara taught him and prepared him before he died. And after his attack on the leaf failed, what do you know? Obito presents himself as "madara Uchiha" to itachi and tells him the the hatred he carries for the uchiha. Obito doesn't hate the uchiha, why would he, so it doesn't even begin to make sense. Madara hated the uchiha for betraying him, Obito acted on Madara's will "For years.. I've walked in madara's stead". Obito did his own little things on the side, but the attack on the leaf village, the uchiha, were clearly Madara's plan.
 
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Now don't take it literal, but it seems like everything was a result of his plan. Apart from the sage and his mom.

correct me if i'm wrong but thats what it seems like. From the start, it seems like what he did became a result of the entire manga.
No.. It is Kishi's manga and Madara is just part of it.
 
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