How can sasuke surpass madara ?

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That's because you contradicted yourself ... I'm stating facts, your forcing opinions
Your a terrible debater nothing you said was right. Madz has been after that eye ever since he became the jin

You lack comprehension obviously. And I'm not a debater, I'm simply point out what manga says(not like you who select what favor your thinking and ignore the rest)

1. Yes madara was gonna get the other eye the whole time

2. Madara was gonna finish guy before getting his eyes, and he certainly did

3. My scan shows once again madara wanna solo naruto and sasuke before getting his eye

4. Madara got blitzed, then said he had to get his eye as soon as possible

5. Let me add: madara was gonna get sasuke eye, but he changed his mind after he got stabbed

That's exactly what manga shows, and what I believe, no force opinion
 

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You lack comprehension obviously. And I'm not a debater, I'm simply point out what manga says(not like you who select what favor your thinking and ignore the rest)

1. Yes madara was gonna get the other eye the whole time

2. Madara was gonna finish guy before getting his eyes, and he certainly did

3. My scan shows once again madara wanna solo naruto and sasuke before getting his eye

4. Madara got blitzed, then said he had to get his eye as soon as possible

5. Let me add: madara was gonna get sasuke eye, but he changed his mind after he got stabbed

That's exactly what manga shows, and what I believe, no force opinion

1 We are discussing a topic we don't agree on = debate
2 Naruto attacked first remember than sasuke showed up so he just attacked both ... going to take sasukes eye because he couldn't get to his at the time. Sasuke didn't let it happen. Madara went back to original plan to get his eye back because his eye's together are very powerful. Did you forget he likes testing power. He wasn't going to keep sasukes eye anyway.
 

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1 We are discussing a topic we don't agree on = debate
2 Naruto attacked first remember than sasuke showed up so he just attacked both ... going to take sasukes eye because he couldn't get to his at the time. Sasuke didn't let it happen. Madara went back to original plan to get his eye back because his eye's together are very powerful. Did you forget he likes testing power. He wasn't going to keep sasukes eye anyway.

1. I really don't care debate or delay, and I am not here try to convince anyone, I just want to see how people use force opinion as facts.
When I try to shove you some really good opinion, then you will know and you will go nuts

2. You already point out what I said, he was gonna get his eye back after all that(after beating guy, after beating naruto, after beating sasuke, after getting sasuke eye, but he only beated guy) And all of a sudden, he decided, "no I have to get my eye back right now. However you saying, "no maddy didn't change at all, he wanted his other eye since the beginning!" Well he certainly did change

And 3. I have no comment on that one, its stupid for madara to throw away a tome rinnegan(jubi eye) for a tomeless one. The one he said he would throw away is ems, big difference. But I dont give a crap on this one at all, so you are free to say madara would throw sasuke's rinnegan to trash can all you want
 

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1. I really don't care debate or delay, and I am not here try to convince anyone, I just want to see how people use force opinion as facts.
When I try to shove you some really good opinion, then you will know and you will go nuts

2. You already point out what I said, he was gonna get his eye back after all that(after beating guy, after beating naruto, after beating sasuke, after getting sasuke eye, but he only beated guy) And all of a sudden, he decided, "no I have to get my eye back right now. However you saying, "no maddy didn't change at all, he wanted his other eye since the beginning!" Well he certainly did change

And 3. I have no comment on that one, its stupid for madara to throw away a tome rinnegan(jubi eye) for a tomeless one. The one he said he would throw away is ems, big difference. But I dont give a crap on this one at all, so you are free to say madara would throw sasuke's rinnegan to trash can all you want

None of it matters he got the eye anyway
 

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did you not see what happen he stabbed him with his sword and cut him in half

Orochimaru and Tobirama were talking about Sasuke surpassing EMS alive Madara which hasn't been done yet. Madara only have 1 eye, he is nowhere near full power, even Obito said as much. A Blind Madara was owning Sasuke, Naruto, and Sai. even with Madara's current powerup, if he can't access his full power then him getting pushed back isn't hard to believe when Sasuke and Naruto have full use of their full power with powerups. Madara is still far ahead in stats, experiences, smarts, and power.

We'll see how Sasuke and Naruto can handle Madara when Madara starts dropping meteors, using PS, Wood jutsus that absorb chakra, absorb chakra, use any jutsus thanks to the Rinnegan, COAT, ect...

Orochi said that some day sasuke will surpass even madara. But how?
Madz is strong af right now and is possibly going to fuse with kaguya how can sasuke surpass that ?
If he surpasses him than I feel bad for naruto.. cause he'd have to surpass hoguromo right ?
Can you guys help answer these questions pls

That was EMS alive Madara and Sasuke's powerup won't just increase all of his base stats to Madara's level, nor would it increase his experiences, analyzing skills, strategy making and power to Madara's level or passed it. That will take more time, especially when Madara fully mastered all of his jutsus and skills which Sasuke, a 17 yr, wouldn't just have. Sasuke will surpass Madara and Naruto surpass Hashirama. Sasuke and Naruto probably only on Madara and Hashirama's level or beyond when it comes to power and that's a maybe since we didn't see their full powers yet. Naruto seems to pass Hashirama in power when he used his magma rasenshuriken (he can access the Bijuu's powers like how Hashirama can control them but Naruto may not be as good at it yet).
 

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Orochimaru and Tobirama were talking about Sasuke surpassing EMS alive Madara which hasn't been done yet. Madara only have 1 eye, he is nowhere near full power, even Obito said as much. A Blind Madara was owning Sasuke, Naruto, and Sai. even with Madara's current powerup, if he can't access his full power then him getting pushed back isn't hard to believe when Sasuke and Naruto have full use of their full power with powerups. Madara is still far ahead in stats, experiences, smarts, and power.

We'll see how Sasuke and Naruto can handle Madara when Madara starts dropping meteors, using PS, Wood jutsus that absorb chakra, absorb chakra, use any jutsus thanks to the Rinnegan, COAT, ect...



That was EMS alive Madara and Sasuke's powerup won't just increase all of his base stats to Madara's level, nor would it increase his experiences, analyzing skills, strategy making and power to Madara's level or passed it. That will take more time, especially when Madara fully mastered all of his jutsus and skills which Sasuke, a 17 yr, wouldn't just have. Sasuke will surpass Madara and Naruto surpass Hashirama. Sasuke and Naruto probably only on Madara and Hashirama's level or beyond when it comes to power and that's a maybe since we didn't see their full powers yet. Naruto seems to pass Hashirama in power when he used his magma rasenshuriken (he can access the Bijuu's powers like how Hashirama can control them but Naruto may not be as good at it yet).

People always got confused with the naruto part. On that same panel, tobirama said, "for some reason, people tend to trust naruto and hashi, maybe naruto will become better hokage than hashi!" Never stated naruto will surpass hashi in strength. The best way to put it is "will of fire", not strength

Hashi > ems sasuke / bsm
 
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kishi always finds a way haha
 
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