He did when he proved that he was faster than Kamui.
By the way, still waiting on those links that prove Jiraiya has the speed to launch an attack anywhere near as fast as Kamui.
Gaara had sand armor, a defense that could withstand Lee's attacks for the duration of the match. Jiraiya does not have such a defense.
Oro had sealed, unusable arms. That had an effect on his ability to fight. Whereas Tsunade has regeneration, which Jiraiya doesn't. Nevermind the fact that he still slashed up Tsunade pretty badly, and only got hit once. Not sure how that counts as being "pawned".
This is irrelevant. Naruto is still a Genin and would take out 99% of the Narutoverse. What feats does Jiraiya have that imply he can react sufficiently to, and track Lee's speed?
That may have been her intent, but there is nothing implying that she could really stop the Raikage from going after Bee and Naruto if he wanted to. This doesn't say anything about her actually being fast enough to stop A.
The jinchuriki are not slowpokes and were able to overwhelm Naruto with numbers.
As for the Obito scene, Obito himself is not slow by any stretch of the imagination either, seeing that he was able to keep up with Minato. Whereas Naruto had his movements severely hampered by the coral on his back.
Naruto admits that the Third Raikage is around A's speed, who he struggled to get past for a while before finally coming out on top in terms of speed. Of course he would have some difficulty landing a hit on him.
Naruto was free-falling from the sky in that instance. He was not using his speed (he probably thought he didn't have to. He doesn't know Madara can counter mini-Bijuudamas).
Nevermind the fact that Jiraiya has not shown himself to be anywhere as fast as Naruto or any of the fast persons he faced.
7th Gate Guy literally only used Hirudora and
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, the second of which Kisame could not react to in the slightest. That is not "keeping up", especially when Guy was underwater in the first instance, did not move anywhere, and was more focused on finding a scroll than blitzing Kisame.
He wanted to get the scroll first.
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. Blitzing Kisame at that point would have been useless as he still wouldn't get the scroll.
Where is Jiraiya getting the speed to use Yomi Numa in such a way that it catches Lee after he dodges a Katon? How is he tracking Gated Lee's movements so well that he can lead him to a trap? If Lee dodges a Katon he's going to go straight for Jiraiya and attack him before he uses seals for another jutsu, or run around him and attack him from behind.
- When did that happened?
Bringing foot speed again?... The strategy i devised for Jiraiya was based on deception, not speed.
Where was his uncounterable speed against the Kisame clone? (
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- This jutsu must be to counter sound genjutsu then, since it covers the ears o>o (
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- What does having his arms sealed has to do with speed? What does regeneration has to do with speed? What does being slashed while she was paralyzed has to do with speed? He got hit twice (
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). Everytime he got close he got ***** slapped and eventually retreated, how is that not getting pawned?
Does that mean he's slower than her? No. He would win a foot race, but a race isn't the same as a battle.
- And here's the fallacious Naruto argument again... You know why he's still a genin. Lee was in the village the whole time.
I'm talking about base Lee here, the same who got taken out by Kisame, who's definetly slower than J-man according to the author.
- She doesn't have to be as fast as him or outpace him, she only has to keep up.
Like a kage couldn't put up a fight against other kage...
- Regarding Naruto. Yet, he's faster than all of them by a noticeable margin and they all still kept up.
Neither has Lee in is base form. Better foot speed doesn't mean the opponent can't keep up.
- Are you kidding me? Kisame was stunned after Hirudora. He couldn't move! He was focused on capturing Kisame. What was he going to accomplish looking around for a scroll? A blitz would've been perfect, but that's not something that happens easily between S-level shinobi.
Here is Kisame casually defending himself against Gai (
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If foot speed solved everything he would've captured Kisame right here (
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But that's not what happened, first Kisame forced Gai into using Asakujaku (
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Gai never overwhelmed him, Kisame always kept up despite the foot speed difference between them.
- He didn't wanted to get the scroll first... He simply wanted the scroll. To obtain it he would have to capture Kisame since he didn't know where the scroll was after multiple sharks were summoned.
- How is Lee touching
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? Where were Lee's gates against Kisame's clone?
Lee's attacks become irrelevant the moment Needle Jizo is up, gates or no gates.
