Sakura > Naruto (Not a Troll Thread) - Part One

[RokudaimeUzumaki]

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Knucklehead: "Refers to a person of questionable intelligence." aka a stupid person. Are there that many stupid people here on Narutobase?

Also, I consider Lee (or young Gai) a bigger underdog than Naruto. Someone who could only use taijutsu and was told by others that he wouldn't make it. Lee was unconscious with broken bones and bleeding, but still stood up to fight part 1 Gaara. Lastly, who works harder than rock lee and gai?

Madara Who else Plans for 100+ years Lol

 

[take it easy]

Difference between Naruto and Oro Naruto knows kage bunshin which helps his Training performance immensely so what one orochimaru learns in 1 week 100 Naruto's learn in 1 day

but oro has more time for learning perfect sage mode and still can't learn this.

 

[iNotorious]

Why bring Sasuke into this?

Just something i want to confirm, yes or no.

 

[BLAZE]

Well that's different because in part 2 he came back from a 3 year trip with Jiraiya so all those other techniques became relatively easy for him

u aren't undestanding bro see him using kyuubi cloak he is basically using every tech without drawback .
see him using SM it magically enhanced his abilities which BS as he is hardworker.
see him using RS in SM awesome
then it becomes spam in KCM throw 5 or 6 with no problem.
currently see him using bijuu's chakrs he is getting kkg without any training.
thats $#!tty writing

 

[shelke]

Just something i want to confirm, yes or no.

Yes or no on what? Sasuke isn't a prophesied child, and Naruto clearly is not a hard worker nor is an underdog.

 

[BLAZE]

Yes or no on what? Sasuke isn't a prophesied child, and Naruto clearly is not a hard worker nor is an underdog.

naruto was underdog until big reveals
son of hokage
child of prophecy
uzumaki haxxed powers
current ashura's transmigrant

 

[RokudaimeUzumaki]

but oro has more time for learning perfect sage mode and still can't learn this.

Well naruto has more Chakra than him for being uzumaki and has Kage bunshin Which means he gets more work done than orochimaru like i said earlier

 

[BLAZE]

Well naruto has more Chakra than him for being uzumaki and has Kage bunshin Which means he gets more work done than orochimaru like i said earlier

using shadow clones in week seriously
thats plot

 

[Xāvî1]

Note: I am not making fun of certain characters that leads to a pointless thread filled with insults


I would like to point out that this thread is not a comparison of power. I know that any form of Naruto can fodderize Sakura.

The thread focuses solely on why Sakura is a better character than Naruto and how she is better written.


A lot of Naruto fanboys think that Naruto is the underdog of the story. That they believe Naruto earned everything he got and worked hard for them


However, they do not realize how wrong they are


I am going to use Sakura to exemplify why Naruto is not a very good character.



The Underdog Mentality

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Sakura is the true underdog of this series, not Naruto

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She wasnt born in a clan, therefore shes not special compared to Naruto who was born in the Uzumaki clan and whose Dad is the 4th Hokage


A lot of people say Naruto is a relatable character, but think, are most of us born in a rich family background. Do most of us have important parents who achieved so many things in life and are recognized by a lot of people


So in a way, Sakura is a more relatable character than Naruto because she came from a normal background. She may have been a popular person, but that doesnt take away the insecurities she has by being normal compared to Naruto


This is a huge problem because for a main character of a shonen manga to be very successfully, a relatability factor is necessary. Naruto lost that in Part 2 when Kishi introduced all that destiny and prophecy crap



Another issue is power


This is more of Kishi's fault because he didnt properly develop Sakura even though shes a main character

Hence why for most of part one, Sakura was useless in battle

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However, this just further proves my point. Sakura felt helpless. She couldnt do anything because she was not special like Naruto who has Uzumaki genes, Ashura's chakra, and Kurama

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Even when the odds were against her and even though she couldnt do anything substantial to change the situation, she never gave up

Its different in Naruto's case because almost everytime he was backed up in a corner, plot and Kurama had to save him

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On the other hand, even though Sakura trained so hard under Tsunade and stated she was at Naruto and Sasuke's level

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Naruto still got free powerups

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Hence, why Sakura can never achieve the same success as Naruto has because she was not born to be great.


Her insecurities stem from the fact that she feels helpless whenever Naruto is in the scene because what she can do can never surpass what Naruto can do



Which is why, she is a more of an underdog than Naruto

This is just part one, theres a lot more that can be discussed. Idk if I want to continue

1. you said kurama as plot saved naruto?? isn't that the power of the jinchuriki. just like the uchihas sharingan the bijuu is the jinchurikis power so you can't call that plot.

2. naruto had to train his A$$ off to get powerups until now. and some one named sasuke had more free powerups then any one else in the entire manga.

regarding the sakura matter - naruto and sasuke are the main stars from the very beginning of this manga. where as sakura is just a sideline character to entertain naruto and sasuke with various methods. sakura was never meant to be so strong compared to those two. those two already moved to a place where even guys from the top ten might have trouble handling.

like it or not its better to have her dead

 

[BLAZE]

1. you said kurama as plot saved naruto?? isn't that the power of the jinchuriki. just like the uchihas sharingan the bijuu is the jinchurikis power so you can't call that plot.

2. naruto had to train his A$$ off to get powerups until now. and some one named sasuke had more free powerups then any one else in the entire manga.

regarding the sakura matter - naruto and sasuke are the main stars from the very beginning of this manga. where as sakura is just a sideline character to entertain naruto and sasuke with various methods. sakura was never meant to be so strong compared to those two. those two already moved to a place where even guys from the top ten might have trouble handling.

like it or not its better to have her dead

1.So basically naruto is free power up loader like sasuke wow
2.hardwork is meaningless if he is destined to scceed
u r biased with sakura hate so rest dosen't matter

 

[Itachitruebauss]

Naruto said destiny can be changed. That u have control over ur own fate

This concept was ruined in part two due to the prophecy nonsense and the reincarnation stuff

Yeah, but when he and Neji were were talking about destiny it was more related to you can overcome what you don't want to be.

Neji was obsessed with the fact that he thought was born to be failure, that people who were put in positions lower than him would be destined with the same faith. Even telling Hinata her lack of confidence and kindness, will make her destined to be a weak person which we all saw was wrong as she changed how others perceived her as weak.

Naruto never said he was against people being born to do great things, he just didn't like the idea Neji had that if you're weak/unfortunate/talentless, you have to give up and accept you can never become stronger or overcome those circumstance. As naruto constantly felt like he was in a shell and was destined to be alone. That his goal in life was to overcome that and show people he was meant for greatness.
When Naruto who was considered the bottom of the barrel, beat him it changed Neji's viewpoint. He stopped believing he was destined for FAILURE. As you can't deny saying Naruto believes people are destined to be weak is contradicting who he is a character. All the prophecy said was Jiraiya would have a pupil capable of saving or destroying the world. He chose naruto, but we don't know if Minato or Nagato had already fulfilled the prophecy. Jiraiya just entrusted that fate to Naruto, so did others as they believed he was destined for greatness.

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If naruto accepts the destiny planned out for him, it does not contradict who he is or what he said. As if he did not agree with what Gamamaru said ,he would try to change that destiny.

 

[A v i]

I understand what you are getting at but Kishi made it clearly as day that the amount of influence his parents holds on his development is very less i.e. his parents being top dogs has very little impact on his growth.So using his top dog parents as an excuse won't cut it out.

You are completly overlooking the fact that having Kyuubi of inside his body would drastically decrease his growth rate.He can't even mould his chakra properly thanks to kyuubi.

Even though she was an underdog Sakura has her parents and friends to guide her but what about Naruto?

 

[EPICMenma]

To me, Naruto is more underdog than Sakura is.

 

[dark legion]

1. you said kurama as plot saved naruto?? isn't that the power of the jinchuriki. just like the uchihas sharingan the bijuu is the jinchurikis power so you can't call that plot.

2. naruto had to train his A$$ off to get powerups until now. and some one named sasuke had more free powerups then any one else in the entire manga.

regarding the sakura matter - naruto and sasuke are the main stars from the very beginning of this manga. where as sakura is just a sideline character to entertain naruto and sasuke with various methods. sakura was never meant to be so strong compared to those two. those two already moved to a place where even guys from the top ten might have trouble handling.

like it or not its better to have her dead

haha .. I like "a sideline character to entertain naruto and Sasuke"
I'll just add this and the thread is soloed

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[fortheevulz]

Talk about basement dwellers:

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[Xāvî1]

1.So basically naruto is free power up loader like sasuke wow
2.hardwork is meaningless if he is destined to scceed
u r biased with sakura hate so rest dosen't matter

1. that butt-hurt Lol
2. prophecy is just a foretelling of the future. people have create their own destiny. its the same with naruto
3. now can you do some thing about it???

 

[BLAZE]

1. that butt-hurt Lol
2. prophecy is just a foretelling of the future. people have create their own destiny. its the same with naruto
3. now can you do some thing about it???

1. lol i m saying sasuke is fodder u r calling me butthurt
lack of common sense
2.nope prophecy said jiraiya's diciple will bring peace so naruto will bring peace anyhow
3.why should i do something about it if u r naruto fan then find ur own way to conquer ur hate or become sasuke
ur choice

 

[Tantalus Thief]

DANG you really hate Naruto that much lol. Can't wait to see the other parts hopefully you don't get banned. I need some popcorn.

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[BLAZE]

DANG you really hate Naruto that much lol. Can't wait to see the other parts hopefully you don't get banned. I need some popcorn.

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read the thread sephiroth bro
it's biased but not completely

 

[Tantalus Thief]

I understand what you are getting at but Kishi made it clearly as day that the amount of influence his parents holds on his development is very less i.e. his parents being top dogs has very little impact on his growth.So using his top dog parents as an excuse won't cut it out.

You are completly overlooking the fact that having Kyuubi of inside his body would drastically decrease his growth rate.He can't even mould his chakra properly thanks to kyuubi.

Even though she was an underdog Sakura has her parents and friends to guide her but what about Naruto?

Naruto has Iruka, kakashi, Minato(right now), and the other K11. Even with the Kyuubi Naruto could make Rasenshuriken, summon the frog, shadow clones, rasengan and master sage mode but could not fuse. Naruto has the skill to overcome that obstacle.