Naruto and Sasuke's TRUE POWER

[The One Above All]

I also think I can rule out FTG because Sasukes tech has a limited range

Of course you can rule out ftg, he doesn't have ftg that's clear. I think its more like altering reality rather than s/t teleportation but who knows.

 

[Naruto9001]

Is it just me or does this thread seem a bit biased. Your analysis was good, but Naruto isn't going to need the shinobi alliance when he fights Sasuke. Hagoromo said that Indra used to train on his own and didn't rely on help from anyone. Ashura couldn't do anything alone AT FIRST but after he let others teach him new skills and help him train he eventually got to a level where he could fight evenly with Indra on his own.

Sasuke isn't the solo king, that title goes to Kaguya.

 

[The One Above All]

Here we go, people always think someone is being biased towards their fav...smdh head

 

[siege]

Of course you can rule out ftg, he doesn't have ftg that's clear. I think its more like altering reality rather than s/t teleportation but who knows.

Maybe a permanent Izanagi

 

[Six Paths of Logic]

Actually the Sage gave Naruto and Sasuke half of his powers i.e. his chakra, "senjutsu" to Naruto and the "Rinnegan" to sasuke. As stated by Madara and seen in the manga.
Sasuke can see Madara's limbo because of his rinnegan not because of a s/t jutsu

 

[Darkas]

I never got how ppl think that Naruto can just instantly learn a highly technical fuinjutsu just because of a power up:nuts:

OT: I don't think Naruto has the power to receive chakra from others, but the power ups I think they do have comes as follows.

Naruto:
Truth Seeking Spheres
Enhanced Sensory
Enhanced Yang (Possibly Strength, speed, and healing)
All nature releases, but probably only limited to what he can put into a ball or make a clone out of.
Most likely improved Bijuu avatar

Sasuke:
S/T Ninjutsu (area wide space manipulation)
Enhanced speed-even if Sasuke used his S/T jutsu his movements within range were faster than Madara could react.
Rinnengan Abilities
All elemental affinities
Enhanced MS abilities (at least vastly improved susanoo)
Sage Chakra Powered Jutsu
Yin Seal (don't really know what it does either genjutsu sharingan enhancement or new techniques)


If Naruto could get chakra from all he has given chakra to then in order for the fight to even be entertaining Sasuke would have to > Naruto so that when Naruto recieves chakra he can surpass Sasuke because he is not gonna do something like getting power ups from everybody else at the beginning of the fight.

Naruto utilizing Ninshuu will probably be used to show how many ppl are fighting with him and how many ppl are praying for him

Did you forget he has the Sage Senjutsu. I think his Senjutsu mode is unlimited. Like he's a living Vacuum with Natural Energy.

 

[siege]

Did you forget he has the Sage Senjutsu. I think his Senjutsu mode is unlimited. Like he's a living Vacuum with Natural Energy.

It can be described as an eternal Sage Mode we have yet to see the true power of either Naruto or Sasuke

 

[ANiMUS]

Did you forget he has the Sage Senjutsu. I think his Senjutsu mode is unlimited. Like he's a living Vacuum with Natural Energy.

I broke it down as increased speed, strength, and sensory, but yeah that's in there too

Also when the bijuu are combined they become the Juubi which is natural energy, if one has the six paths SM i don't think they have to absorb energy anymore

 

[israel97]

i cant wait to see the full potential of that left eye of sasuke

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Is it just me or does this thread seem a bit biased. Your analysis was good, but Naruto isn't going to need the shinobi alliance when he fights Sasuke. Hagoromo said that Indra used to train on his own and didn't rely on help from anyone. Ashura couldn't do anything alone AT FIRST but after he let others teach him new skills and help him train he eventually got to a level where he could fight evenly with Indra on his own.

Sasuke isn't the solo king, that title goes to Kaguya.

Biased...?

I think your post is more biased than mine lol. You are getting characters and my viewpoint confused. In this situation, Naruto is the personification of Ashura (who used an army to gain power equal to his brother) and Indra is the personification of Sasuke, of course. Your bias is assuming Ashura didn't need the help of others to fight Indra, can you prove this....?

Maybe a permanent Izanagi

Izanagi is used to alter reality, and has only been seen used to escape death. What Sasuke is doing is more S/T related. If sasuke could alter reality, he would attempt to TRULY kill Madara instead of just putting a sword in his chest lol Sasuke knows that wouldn't be enough to kill someone like the current Madara. If he could alter reality at any moment he'd decapitate his ass lol

Actually the Sage gave Naruto and Sasuke half of his powers i.e. his chakra, "senjutsu" to Naruto and the "Rinnegan" to sasuke. As stated by Madara and seen in the manga.
Sasuke can see Madara's limbo because of his rinnegan not because of a s/t jutsu

So your trying to tell me that Obito could see Madara's Limbo just because he had the Rinnegan? I call BS.

Plus, I didn't say Naruto had the power of the Sage. I said he had the power of Ashura, and ASHURA WAS CALLED THE SUCCESSOR OF NISHUU. So obviously he knew and used Nishuu, and Naruto was given "Ashura's Power". Not to mention cooperation with other shinobi is the basis of Nishuu and Naruto's middle name. He is already doing it with the Bijuu, remember????

 

[Yuse]

nice theory one of the best threads this week in my opinon

 

[Howling Fox]

Biased...?

I think your post is more biased than mine lol. You are getting characters and my viewpoint confused. In this situation, Naruto is the personification of Ashura (who used an army to gain power equal to his brother) and Indra is the personification of Sasuke, of course. Your bias is assuming Ashura didn't need the help of others to fight Indra, can you prove this....?

yes ashura's own chakra bloomed and he fought on same level as his brother by himself through efforts

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[TrollKing]

Very very good thread even though you downplay sasuke and lifted up naruto U_U

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Sasuke isn't the solo king, that title goes to Kaguya.

Uh, Kaguya has never been seen to fight, we don't even know one person's name she has "officially" killed. And FYI, her hype alone would categorize her as the "Solo GOD" if we are really being this specific lol.

I don't think it's a space time tech I think it's something new it seems like he switches places with something like when Madara goes after Sasuke he switched places with his sword he ends up where his sword is in his sword ends up stabbing him from where the direction Sasuke was it's hard to put your finger on it but I don't think it's a space time at least one we haven't seen before we definitely need more of an explanation of this power

No one is "switching places". If this were true, Naruto and Sasuke would not be able to attack him without something near or on madara being switched to their old location. Please name one thing that has switched places when Sasuke performs this technique...?

I never got how ppl think that Naruto can just instantly learn a highly technical fuinjutsu just because of a power up:nuts:

OT: I don't think Naruto has the power to receive chakra from others, but the power ups I think they do have comes as follows.

Naruto:
Truth Seeking Spheres
Enhanced Sensory
Enhanced Yang (Possibly Strength, speed, and healing)
All nature releases, but probably only limited to what he can put into a ball or make a clone out of.
Most likely improved Bijuu avatar

Sasuke:
S/T Ninjutsu (area wide space manipulation)
Enhanced speed-even if Sasuke used his S/T jutsu his movements within range were faster than Madara could react.
Rinnengan Abilities
All elemental affinities
Enhanced MS abilities (at least vastly improved susanoo)
Sage Chakra Powered Jutsu
Yin Seal (don't really know what it does either genjutsu sharingan enhancement or new techniques)


If Naruto could get chakra from all he has given chakra to then in order for the fight to even be entertaining Sasuke would have to > Naruto so that when Naruto recieves chakra he can surpass Sasuke because he is not gonna do something like getting power ups from everybody else at the beginning of the fight.

Naruto utilizing Ninshuu will probably be used to show how many ppl are fighting with him and how many ppl are praying for him

The essense of Nishuu is the ability to share chakra. The manga says that Naruto obtained "Ashura's Power" then Naruto magically has the ability to use chakra of all the Bijuu. The Sage himself says that true power comes form cooperation, and that is what naruto is currenty doing. Ashura was taught Nishuu from the Sage. Its very possible Naruto now has the power of Nishuu, or collective chakra.

You think Naruto doesn't have Nishuu but you think he and Sasuke has the ability to use all Nature releases?

And lastly, YOU UNDERESTIMATE SASUKE. We have not see the full potential of his Ocular Jutsu, and we have not seen his OTHER EYE YET.... the full power of BOTH his eyes might be major!!!!

Not necessarily, there's folding space where you don't move but space moves and then there's the kind travel that Minato uses where he jumps through a tunnel and then the kind where your transformed into energy for a second and then transported to another place there and then there's time travel itself in a limited fashion are different kinds of space time travel theory's I want to know exactly what it is if it's something we haven't seen before because we seen FTG tech before

I think this is a FTG - type S/T Jutsu, but Sasuke doesn't need seals to use it
Its just as fast as FTG, it might be "better" than it overall (don't kill me). But I think its more limited than FTG in a way, cause he is losing Tomoe when he uses it, which means there might be a time limit.

i cant wait to see the full potential of that left eye of sasuke

Hell.... I can't wait to see the full potential of BOTH HIS EYES... I bet he gets his other rinnegan like Madara will!

yes ashura's own chakra bloomed and he fought on same level as his brother by himself through efforts

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DUDE.... you keep "throwing in" the "by himself" part and the manga NEVER said that he fought him by himself. The manga page I posted shows Indra by himself and Ashura with an army behind him.

He found power on the same level as his brother is what the manga you posted said. NOT he fought him solo. Do you have any other "proof" he fought him solo? The whole purpose of this Will Of Fire thing and the idealism of "hokage" is the fact that he needs help and he works with everyone to accomplish his goals. THis is the same idealogy of Ninshuu. I don't get the whole by himself thing your pushing.......

 

[wanderingcactus]

Read up Agni, twin brother of Indra, god of sacrifice.
Youll learn more about Ashura's powers.

Based on the chakra sticks/recievers, it can siphon chakras.
And since thats Ashuras jutsu, we know that thats how he gained his power. By recollecting all the chakra that that way spread around to the people.

So basically, Indra had a head start. He didnt need to gather his chakra whilst Ashura had to

 

[TrollKing]

Instant sasuke vs god of alliances

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Very very good thread even though you downplay sasuke and lifted up naruto U_U

I apologize. I added to the end of my actual thread just for you kind sir.

Read up Agni, twin brother of Indra, god of sacrifice.
Youll learn more about Ashura's powers.

Based on the chakra sticks/recievers, it can siphon chakras.
And since thats Ashuras jutsu, we know that thats how he gained his power. By recollecting all the chakra that that way spread around to the people.

So basically, Indra had a head start. He didnt need to gather his chakra whilst Ashura had to

Agni huh?


Very interesting. I will read up on this ASAP!

Instant sasuke vs god of alliances

My sentiments exactly kind sir.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Naruto Power update: possible regeneration capabilities? He healed a missing eye and dying heart so far...