Obito vs. Hashirama

[Ababeel]

How exactly did Hashi deal with Amaterasu..a jutsu with such speed?..considering he probably had no intel on it most likely

Who said he did? May you please put the link/s for him dealing with the Amatersu?

 

[Draphsin]

I don't get..if this cell thing was really necessary, why can't Obito use FTW?...after all he had Hashi's cell and Hashi was dead...you're kind of assuming he can do everything Hashi can do...how does having his cells mean he isn't immune to FTW

Obito can't use it because his mokuton skill level is low without spiral zetsu.

Think about it, what's keeping hashi immune to his own jutsu? Would it not be his dna? It is a mokuton jutsu after all. There isn't anything which prevents hashi from being immune to his jutsu other than himself, & since it logically makes no sense for him to just have immunity for no reason then having it through his dna isn't far fetched, especially considering what possessing someone's dna does to a person [kabuto is another example of everything I said pretty much, & he wasn't affected by tayuya's flute genjutsu].

You don't have proof that Obito isn't immune to that jutsu...we are going by Manga facts...so having "part" of his cells doesn't mean he'll not be affected by it unless stated in the Manga

Regardless, you still seem to avoid my point if obito doesn't possess immunity, you keep clinging onto something that could be possible yet there are other methods for dealing with the jutsu.

Lool ok Kurama isn't restricted...Buddha destroys then...those amount of hands smacking Obito would be like konan's paper bombs

As soon as kurama creates & fires a tbb hashi will have to counter with mokujin, this gives him no time to prep SM. & once the explosion goes off & the smoke clears hashi will do something similar to this. [

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] In that time obito will already be behind him as he would've either already warped there, or he would've simply activated intangibility to traverse underground:

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Btw the reason why konan's paper bombs were effective was because obito couldn't travel underground whilst being intangible, this time obito has a ground to travel underneath so he won't be trapped like that. Plus there's izanagi but that won't be needed.

If obito was able to force the fastest ninja alive into using an instantaneous jutsu from a warp that was also delayed according to himself:

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Then hashi in base has no chance to evade one.

Well I'm agreeing that Obito would win "just" cuz of no info...with info, Hashi takes this with probably no diff or at least low

Obito takes it mid diff at worst without info on kamui. & I can argue for obito's side with info so it's either way for both.

 

[Haizaki]

Who said he did? May you please put the link/s for him dealing with the Amatersu?

Considering he fought Madara..and Madara went all out, I don't see why Madara didn't

I'm asking how he dealt with it not saying how he dealt with it

 

[Jimihendrix]

Trollbito gives Hashirama the hands and ends him.

this is how it'll play out:
Obito starts 4:59 walking distance away from Hashirama. He proceeds to walk, intangible, all the while Hashirama is spamming every jutsu he knows. At 4:59 upon reaching Hashirama, Obito teleports him gg

 

[Jimihendrix]

MS Obito is portrayed so poorly in this manga, and all for plot. Unless you possess FTG (or a similar speed) or an attack that's connected to his alternate dimension (this only applies to Kakashi), or you completely erase Obito's surrounding environment and replace it with a "never-ending" attack, you will never beat Obito.

Hashirama's buddha doesn't completely erase Obito's surrounding environment. What's stopping Obito from traveling underground and then up through the Buddha to Hashirama's position and then teleporting him? Absolutely nothing.

How is the flower world gonna work on Obito when his nose is existing in an alternate reality. With Obito's speed he can easily make it to Hashirama's position, across the flower world, regardless of the gap

 

[Dark Riku]

Hashirama fools Obito by letting him warp his wood clone.After that i don't need to explain how the battle goes.
Hashirama wins.

 

[King Of Pop]

MS Obito is portrayed so poorly in this manga, and all for plot. Unless you possess FTG (or a similar speed) or an attack that's connected to his alternate dimension (this only applies to Kakashi), or you completely erase Obito's surrounding environment and replace it with a "never-ending" attack, you will never beat Obito.

Hashirama's buddha doesn't completely erase Obito's surrounding environment. What's stopping Obito from traveling underground and then up through the Buddha to Hashirama's position and then teleporting him? Absolutely nothing.

How is the flower world gonna work on Obito when his nose is existing in an alternate reality. With Obito's speed he can easily make it to Hashirama's position, across the flower world, regardless of the gap

Hashirama is a sensor, he can grow wood from his body and his reflexes are good. With this conditions in mind obito is not warping him. He can also counter kamui by employing clones(this is with info) to trick obito as he can't tell the difference, and then proceed to finish him. Obito is not unbeatable,its high time people stop saying stuf like "if u don't have Ftg or kakashi kamui you can't beat obito" that's nonsense.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Lol, Hashirama stomps. You're going to need to restrict Hashirama by a lot if you want it to be a fair fight.

 

[Jimihendrix]

let hashi use wood clones, what difference does it make. He warps em all one at a time, it doesn't make any difference to Obito.

And Hashirama sure as hell isn't faster than FTG which is the only speed comparable to Obito's.

Do you forget how far he traveled to Sasuke's position after the latter's battle with Itachi? Show me Hashirama sensing feats. Him and Naruto's sage modes are different.

Obito phases right through everything Hashirama throws at him low-med diff. Obito is too broken, that's why he couldn't have both MS. If he did he'd most likely beat anyone. Plot's holding Obito back by so much

And show me how Hashirama counters genjutsu. Obito's very skilled at genjutsu too. Don't tell me you don't need scans either cause he fought with the Uchiha for so many years, because if you're going by that logic then you're also saying that Prime Hiruzen >>>>

tl;dr Obito trolls

 

[Rock Chee]

Senju

Obito doesn't stand a chance

 

[ShippudenRules]

Hashirama wins high diif. Obito only hope is to spam Kamui lol.

Hashirama has way more jutsus
Hashirama has an OP sage mode
Mokuton (1000 hands buddah, Wood dragon, Mokujin and flower tree world)
Hashirama can heal imself
Hashirama can create many wood clones

Also people forget that Obito has Hashiramas cells (half of is body). Without these cells, Obito wouldn't be able to spam kamui since it's an MS move. Except for Kamui, what does Obito have. The answer is nothing.

 

[RustledJimmies]

Hashirama rapes. Come at me, Obito fapboys.

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito wins without intel, Hashirama shits with intel.

 

[Oblivionx]

obito takes it high diff....! madara has a better chance against obito if obito cannot get inside susano....! hashirama's SM sensing will be tough to overcome but i'm yet to see better reactions from him than obito....! other than SM sensing, hashirama has nothing on kamui so he loses....!

 

[LegendaryAce]

Obito wins without intel, Hashirama shits with intel.

Even without intel it would be hard to warp him as he would probably sense him appearing behind him or hashi would fight from the start with clones making it harder for obito to tell the real one (if hashirama goes into sm straight away which is unlikely its game over tbh)

 

[Bronze]

Hashirama has Madara's speed and reaction feats? Nice fanfiction.​

 

[KidGamer65]

Even without intel it would be hard to warp him as he would probably sense him appearing behind him or hashi would fight from the start with clones making it harder for obito to tell the real one (if hashirama goes into sm straight away which is unlikely its game over tbh)

If he were to warp near him and attack, the first instinct would to be attack Obito with a nearby weapon or his fists, and that would lead to him getting into the same position Minato was in, and without Hiraishin, he won't be able to escape.

The only chance is the branches being able to sprout from his body fast enough to force Obito to go intangible, thus cancelling the warp.

 

[King Of Pop]

let hashi use wood clones, what difference does it make. He warps em all one at a time, it doesn't make any difference to Obito.

And Hashirama sure as hell isn't faster than FTG which is the only speed comparable to Obito's.

Do you forget how far he traveled to Sasuke's position after the latter's battle with Itachi? Show me Hashirama sensing feats. Him and Naruto's sage modes are different.

Obito phases right through everything Hashirama throws at him low-med diff. Obito is too broken, that's why he couldn't have both MS. If he did he'd most likely beat anyone. Plot's holding Obito back by so much

And show me how Hashirama counters genjutsu. Obito's very skilled at genjutsu too. Don't tell me you don't need scans either cause he fought with the Uchiha for so many years, because if you're going by that logic then you're also saying that Prime Hiruzen >>>>

tl;dr Obito trolls

You just shot urself in the foot. Warping hashis clone is suicidal for him as d clone attacks him from that dimension and hashi attacks from the real world at same time, just like how naruto and co got him. All this is if hashirama has intel on kamui btw.

 

[Jimihendrix]

Hashirama wins high diif. Obito only hope is to spam Kamui lol.

Hashirama has way more jutsus
Hashirama has an OP sage mode
Mokuton (1000 hands buddah, Wood dragon, Mokujin and flower tree world)
Hashirama can heal imself
Hashirama can create many wood clones

Also people forget that Obito has Hashiramas cells (half of is body). Without these cells, Obito wouldn't be able to spam kamui since it's an MS move. Except for Kamui, what does Obito have. The answer is nothing.

and exactly what--out of all that you listed--is even able to touch obito? Exactly how does that OP sage mode help Hashi hit Obito? How exactly does healing help you when you've been teleported to kamuiworld?

 

[Jimihendrix]

You just shot urself in the foot. Warping hashis clone is suicidal for him as d clone attacks him from that dimension and hashi attacks from the real world at same time, just like how naruto and co got him. All this is if hashirama has intel on kamui btw.

if clones don't disappear immediately, then they're immediately placed under genjutsu.
How is hashi attacking at the same time going to hurt obito? Obito disappears into his Kamuiworld when he takes a clone with him, they'll be nothing for hashi to attack in this plane of existence. Naruto and co got him because of Kakashi's kamui--they had access to kamuiworld. This is something Hashirama doesn't have