Madara Uchiha - a small analysis

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To start out, I want to say I really think Madara is one of the most misunderstood/misinterpreted villain characters ever in manga history, and most of his fans (or rather the ones that post and worship him prominently on this board) like him for the wrong reason. Similarly, his haters dislike him for the wrong reason.

Yes, Madara is a frightening powerful shinobi. Yes, he has abilities that can easily tear the landscape apart. Yes, he can "solo" nearly every other character with ease. And make no mistake, that is pretty darn cool.

Many of his fans, especially the inevitable bandwagoners, like him for this alone.

But there is much more to Madara than just his battle prowess.

His awesome power hides the fact that he is a pretty interesting character. Now, there is a group of people that like him better than Obito, claiming that the later was "friendzoned" and wanted to create the Mugen Tsukuyomi just for Rin, while Madara is pure evil and wants complete control over everything just because.

While this view is also false concerning Obito, it's even more wrong about Madara. Madara truly believes in the Mugen Tsukuyomi and its promise of eternal peace. Even if to us as readers it would mean a fake peace without individual progress, he believes in it.

To understand Madara, you have to understand how he grew up. From his earliest childhood, he did only know fighting for survival. The shinobi world back when was much harsher than the current one in which Naruto grew up. There were no villages, no schools, no normal everyday life, but only constant battle. He lost all his siblings, four of them in total, to the endless fighting, with the death of the last one, Izuna, having the most impact on him. But, despite of all the hatred between the different clans, he befriended Hashirama Senju and, through his optimistic view on the world and the future, started to believe in the idea of the shinobi villages and the potential peace it would bring.

Then he learned of the history the Uchiha tablet contains. He learned of he story of Kaguya and the sage, who tried to bring peace, but ultimately failed despite his efforts. This made Madara come to the conclusion that true peace can not be achieved through people working together on their own free will, but only through a force that ends all conflict at once. Robbing people of their individuality is necessary since individual ambitions only lead to more conflict. So, he developed the Tsuki no me plan to bring eternal peace.

However, Madara's desire for peace is seemingly contradicted by him enjoying his battles and talking pleasure in fighting, giving support to the „He is so evil“ claims. But you have to view this with his past childhood in mind as well. He was socialized in a time and way where fighting was an essential part of his life. It's pretty natural he learned to dwell in it and become battle addicted, despite longing for peace.

So, thank you for reading:)
 

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you copied and pasted this from the naruto wikia :dunno:
 

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Madara's character parts are all connected to each other when it comes to his development. That's what makes me like him. Nice thread. I believe he is the most well written Kishimoto made.​
 

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Why? This is a small, or short, analysis. I could have written something truly in depth which would be a lot longer...

i think your still a troll though for copying/pasting
 

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. Similarly, his haters dislike him for the wrong reason.

Nope , for me I dislike him for his bland character . His design is cool , his powers are also cool but his lack of a decent characterizion ruins him , and this is only Kishimoto's fault . Madara needs emotion and flaws he doesn't have . The fact that he only thinks for power is ridiculous for me . Though this is my opinion only , but many agree with this .
 

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As a Obito fan, I find Madara's background harsher and more interesting. Actually, Madara has more of a reason to turn into a major villain than Obito. Madara is an excellent character but you need to understand the complexity of his words and personality to realise how deep his character is.
 

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i think your still a troll though for copying/pasting


I copyed/pasted my own text, since writing anything longer than two paragraphs in a form like this is pretty dragging. How is that trolling?
 

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I copyed/pasted my own text, since writing anything longer than two paragraphs in a form like this is pretty dragging. How is that trolling?

you shouldn't reply to me, you have others in the thread proving your wrong
 

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As a Obito fan, I find Madara's background harsher and more interesting. Actually, Madara has more of a reason to turn into a major villain than Obito. Madara is an excellent character but you need to understand the complexity of his words and personality to realise how deep his character is.


Exactly. But people often ignore the interesting parts, like when Madara talked to the immobilized Tobirama, or of course the whole flashback with Hashirama.
 

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Emotion wise of his character:

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We don't need to see how emotionless he fell, when Izuna died, and according to Hashirama, Madara loved Izuna more than Itachi loved Sasuke.​
 

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Emotion wise of his character:

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We don't need to see how emotionless he fell, when Izuna died, and according to Hashirama, Madara loved Izuna more than Itachi loved Sasuke.​



I'm pretty sure we will eventually get a flashback (perhaps triggered by Sasuke using whatever Hashirama gave him after comparing him to Izuna) about Izuna from Madara's point of view where their relationship will be fleshed out more.
 

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Kisihi loves Uchihas, thats why they are all so loveable.
 

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Kisihi loves Uchihas, thats why they are all so loveable.

While I wouldn't exactly call Madara "loveable", but he is a cool and intriguing character and no bland "I'm so evil for the sake of it!"villain.
 

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I think he was upset that Tobirama would become the next Hokage. That was a huge part of it. He knew that Tobirama would oppress the Uchihas. If you think about it, everything he said came true. If he hadn't relied on the "hate" of the world, his plan wouldn't have come to fruition. Both Nagato and Obito acted as they did because they lost people important to them. If that hadn't happen, His plan would've failed. So in a way, Nagato's and Obito's paths were tests to see if the world was as bad as he predicted. If they weren't, then the plan would collapse but if they were (which they were), then it just proved that the plan was necessary. He was also correct about Hashirama's system failing. Because now, the fighting is just as a bad if not worse then before the founding of villages. Instead of clans running around in bands, entire formal Militaries were created to fight each other. It's on a completely different scale, so much so that the names of the wars were named Shinobi world Wars. Even though kids don't have to die after the Founding of the Villages, Adults are dying more than ever. Hashirama's plan solved the first part of the problem: Making sure kids don't die. Madara is aiming for the second problem: Making sure adults don't die. And that is through Infinite Tsukuyomi. Madara isn't Aizen, he isn't mean or demoralizing. He genuinely wishes the best, it's just that no one (except Obito and Nagato, well not anymore) agree with him.
 
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