why do people take away minato's feat as a jin?

[ShiroT]

why do people deny that minato is a jin(before losing it to zetsu)? minato became a jin before he died and was revived as a jin, making him a jin. we dont know if he fought kurama in the shinigami's stomach(as there both are dead i would see no reason to). we dont even know if yin kurama hated minato, he mighted became a perfect jin without fighting him. so why in dabates will people say minato not a jin?

if your going to use someone in there prime then they should get all of there feats including ones they died with.



itachi was at his strongest when he was ill but since we seen him at his healthiest when he was edo nobody gets mad when someone says "healthy itachi > . . ." i have never seen anybody say "you cant use healthy itachi because alive itachi wasnt healthy."(nobody seems to complain when people use healthy nagato either.) that argument seems to only apply for minato. . . . ..

 

[LuckyMan]

Because they know Minato solos Itachi low difficulty. Thats why.

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And he obviously did fight Kurama while sealed in the death gods stomach. The same way Naruto did, which is how he can use the KCM.....

 

[The Necromancer]

"Alive Minato" and "Jinchuriki" do not belong in the same sentence.

Alive Minato as a Jinchuriki has seconds to live and can't feel his body.

 

[iFlowMotion]

My question is, does he have KCM or BM

 

[Gold Lightning]

It doesn't even matter when he became a jin. It's about said characters strongest form and if they have the feats to back it up. The same way Rinnegan Madara was portrayed as #1 on the base for a long time despite his rinnegan feats all being Edo feats. So I see no reason for people to cry when BM or KCM Minato is mentioned.

 

[JDtheAlchemist]

People definitely get mad about "healthy Itachi" and "healthy Nagato" but that's because those characters technically didn't exist. Their strongest form was their edo form and it's kind of unfair to count that in with the ranks. Same goes for jin Minato. While I do agree that Minato was a jin and all, he never showcased it while alive. He also never combined his sage mode with his bijuu mode so saying "bijuu sage mode Minato" is the same as saying "healthy Itachi." It is a very controversial subject on the base and I'm honestly not even sure which way I sway in the argument. Like I want to be able to count BSM Minato as a character but you kind of can't since he was edo when he showcased BOTH of those techniques and as you know, edos have unlimited chakra and are basically immortal outside a sealing jutsu. That's why people deny his feats; because he was using an edo body when showing all of them.

 

[Tobi98]

Because he wasn't a Jin when he was alive, that's like, if there existed a Edo Tensei Guy, you counting his almost invincible feats with alive Guy

 

[ShiroT]

"Alive Minato" and "Jinchuriki" do not belong in the same sentence.

Alive Minato as a Jinchuriki has seconds to live and can't feel his body.

neither does a "health itachi" with susanno but people dont mind it. its only when its about minato

 

[ShiroT]

Because he wasn't a Jin when he was alive, that's like, if there existed a Edo Tensei Guy, you counting his almost invincible feats with alive Guy

but he he technically was, he was alive for a few minutes before he died. and he has showed us his feats as a jin while he was edo. the same foes for madara nobody complains about him either

 

[ShiroT]

It doesn't even matter when he became a jin. It's about said characters strongest form and if they have the feats to back it up. The same way Rinnegan Madara was portrayed as #1 on the base for a long time despite his rinnegan feats all being Edo feats. So I see no reason for people to cry when BM or KCM Minato is mentioned.

exactly alive madara (before juubi jin) gave his rinnegan away but since he had it as a edo people count it as having it.

 

[The Necromancer]

neither does a "health itachi" with susanno but people dont mind it. its only when its about minato

Because Healthy Itachi is essentially Edo Itachi, without immortality and a real chakra pool. Healthy Itachi, can be easily constructed.

Jinchuriki Minato however, is up in the air, as we don't know how his Kyuubi will function inside of him, we don't know if this will stunt his chakra control or if he will even be able to access the kyuubi's chakra, or even if he will have feeling in his body.

It's easy to make someone healthy, it's really hard to make someone a jinchuriki.

 

[Tobi98]

exactly alive madara (before juubi jin) gave his rinnegan away but since he had it as a edo people count it as having it.

I don't... :|

 

[LuckyMan]

Its because Minato would solo 99% of the Narutoverse Nagato and Itachi included if he were to have KCM in his fights. Its sort of unfair actually. FTG + TBB. Yikes!!!!!

 

[ShiroT]

Because Healthy Itachi is essentially Edo Itachi, without immortality and a real chakra pool. Healthy Itachi, can be easily constructed.

Jinchuriki Minato however, is up in the air, as we don't know how his Kyuubi will function inside of him, we don't know if this will stunt his chakra control or if he will even be able to access the kyuubi's chakra, or even if he will have feeling in his body.

It's easy to make someone healthy, it's really hard to make someone a jinchuriki.

lets say that he did beat kurama in the afterlife(if you can use jutsu in the afterlife nothing suggests that you get stronger being dead) the fact that he did would suggest that he could do it again if he was alive, its not that hard to imagine

 

[ShiroT]

I don't... :|

its a fact. before juubi jin madara we've never seen him use his rinnegan until he was edo and nobody had a problem with that considering a alive madara would never have had it to begin with

 

[The Necromancer]

lets say that he did beat kurama in the afterlife(if you can use jutsu in the afterlife nothing suggests that you get stronger being dead) the fact that he did would suggest that he could do it again if he was alive, its not that hard to imagine

Ok. And how would his chakra control be affected?
How much time until his chakra reserves are depleted in a fight while Kurama is leaching off of them?
What makes you think his mortal body can handle the kyuubi, when canonically it has been shown not to?

 

[ShiroT]

Its because Minato would solo 99% of the Narutoverse Nagato and Itachi included if he were to have KCM in his fights. Its sort of unfair actually. FTG + TBB. Yikes!!!!!

i think this is the reason xd

 

[Valhorus]

It doesn't even matter when he became a jin. It's about said characters strongest form and if they have the feats to back it up. The same way Rinnegan Madara was portrayed as #1 on the base for a long time despite his rinnegan feats all being Edo feats. So I see no reason for people to cry when BM or KCM Minato is mentioned.

This right here .

 

[To Whatever]

Is anyone else wondering why Minato's Kurama is so well behaved and not all angry and angsty?

 

[ShiroT]

Ok. And how would his chakra control be affected?
How much time until his chakra reserves are depleted in a fight while Kurama is leaching off of them?
What makes you think his mortal body can handle the kyuubi, when canonically it has been shown not to?

all perfect jins chakra control was not affected, neither was naruto's before being a perfect jin. naruto had perfect control over his chakra until orochimaru placed the seal on him.

and the other point is that minato and kurama didnt seem to be enemy's they seem neutral like kurama had nothing against him. while i cant tell you for certian that he wasnt taking minato's chakra im suggesting that he wasn as hateful as yin kurama.

what do you mean canonically it has been shown not to? he never used its power while he was alive. the gold and silver brothers were just fine going 6 tails. and this all ties into yang kurama maybe being nicer then yang kurama. Im not going to pass it off as fact but yin kurama seem more pleasant then yin like the post above me said.