Sasuke was the deciding factor of this war.

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Exactly fool. It's a pointless thread.
no the point is sasuke has played a massive role in this war, without him gg SA. Same with naruto. wth has your comment got to do with anything lol
 

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Well of course he played a critical role. What I like about Sasuke is that he didn't even take part in the bulk of the war, but he still managed to play a critical role.
 
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*Sasuke and Naruto
How do you not understand if sasuke joined the alliance he would die witg Naruto.
 

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A lot of people do not give Sasuke his credit for this war. What Naruto did was nice and all, but it was Sasuke who was the deciding factors for this. In the end, Naruto's effort made no difference. Madara and Kabuto knew this, which is why they wanted Sasuke on his side. Naruto was bound to fail.

Had Sasuke joined Madara and Obito's side, victory would have been impossible for the Shinobi Alliance.

Had Sasuke decided not to join the war, the Shinobi Alliance would have still lost. Due the Juubi's Tailed Beast Bomb.

It was Sasuke who united the world. Had Sasuke not tried to capture Bee, the villages would still be fighting among each others.

It was Sasuke who brought hope to Shinobi Alliance even when Naruto was down crying.

It is Sasuke that is leading the world to peace. Even Sasuke's selfish ideas lead to a better world. Give respect to Sasuke for this war. He truly deserve it.

I dont agree with you. Sasuke did help out and all but i wouldnt go as far to say that he was a deciding factor in this war. Whether he went to the battlefield to sit and watch the SA+ 4 hokages and Naruto fighting Madara, Obito and the juubi would have had the same impact as it wouldve if he fought. Yea sure Sasuke did help in getting orochimaru to summon edo hokages and get them involved as well but lets be honest here the only useful ones where the 4th, and 2nd. The third was M.I.A during most of the action. Furthermore Sasuke fighting did not have any significant impact on obito and Madaras chances of wiping out the SA. If everyone that fought in this war had to fight without sasuke alone then it wouldnt have made that big of a difference. Besides Naruto also gave Sasuke a kyuubi cloak which made Sasuke More than three times stronger. Also Sasuke wasnt the one who brought hope to the SA it was Naruto. The SA were only given hope when they saw and felt the feelings and thoughts that dwelled within Narutos heart.

In this War arc Naruto was the most significant character and the most important for the SA. Why? Naruto was the only one with the ability in the SA to use sage mode. Naruto gave Kuramas chakra to the whole SA which made them a lot stronger than they were. Naruto was not only concentrating on beating Madara and Obito but he also had to at the same time protect the entire SA with his cloak. Naruto was also the only one who had the ability to extract 2-7 tails chakra and kuramas chakra from juubito. If sasuke didnt fight and watched instead The SA's chances of winning would probably be very low. However if Naruto wasnt fighting and was the one watching the SA and sasuke fight then their chances of winning would be 0%. The SA would get penetrated.

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He also brought the previous kage which helped them somewhat vs Obito.
 

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Had Sasuke not stopped Kabuto with Itachi, Naruto and his little band of purposeless groupies called alliance, wouldn't have been breathing right now. They should thank the heavens that Sasuke decided not to kill Kabuto, but opted to stop the Edo Tensai instead. Just imagine had Madara been revived with the Edos still around?
 
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He also brought the previous kage which helped them somewhat vs Obito.

Yea i know i said that but think about it if the 4 kages still fought in the fight and sasuke didnt would it have that much of a difference as it wouldve if Naruto didnt fight?
 
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Had Sasuke not stopped Kabuto with Itachi, Naruto and his little band of purposeless groupies called alliance, wouldn't have been breathing right now. They should thank the heavens that Sasuke decided not to kill Kabuto, but opted to stop the Edo Tensai instead. Just imagine had Madara been revived with the Edos still around?

Sasuke wasnt needed by itachi. Itachi was more than enough to stop Kabuto. Sasuke made it harder for Itachi as Itachi had to fight while protecting Sasuke. If anything Sasuke was only in Itachis way.
 

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Sasuke wasnt needed by itachi. Itachi was more than enough to stop Kabuto. Sasuke made it harder for Itachi as Itachi had to fight while protecting Sasuke. If anything Sasuke was only in Itachis way.
Sasuke was needed. Itachi had no possible way to break out of that Sound Genjutsu. Then he would have been back under Kabuto's control. Kabuto had Itachi beaten several in that match. What part of that fight was real is still beyond me, but Itachi was cornered at least three times.

Madara, Edo Itachi, and Obito? Obito alone could hold down the strongest Ninjas. Madara alone could beat the entire alliance with Naruto being questionable. You add Itachi and that's just wrong.
 
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Sasuke was needed. Itachi had no possible way to break out of that Sound Genjutsu. Then he would have been back under Kabuto's control. Kabuto had Itachi beaten several in that match. What part of that fight was real is still beyond me, but Itachi was cornered at least three times.

Madara, Edo Itachi, and Obito? Obito alone could hold down the strongest Ninjas. Madara alone could beat the entire alliance with Naruto being questionable. You add Itachi and that's just wrong.

You're wrong. Itachi can't be beaten with genjutsu unless it is some form of an uchiha doujutsu. Furthermore Yes it's chi may have been backed up into corners in that fight however it wouldn't have happened if itachi didn't have to worry about looking after Sasuke. Sasuke didn't increase itachis chances of Beating kabuto.
 

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Sasuke wasnt needed by itachi. Itachi was more than enough to stop Kabuto. Sasuke made it harder for Itachi as Itachi had to fight while protecting Sasuke. If anything Sasuke was only in Itachis way.

I don't know which Manga you're reading, but had Sasuke not aided him he would have:

1) Gotten his Fuda Rewritten twice.

2) If he didn't tell him about Snakes, it would have taken him sometime to figure things out.

3) Had he not taken care of the Webs, Itachi would have been caught from the front, as he obviously wouldn't have taken care of front and back at the same time.

4) He wouldn't have broken out of the Genjutsu without Sasuke's MS Genjutsu.

Wait what? Sasuke didn't need protection. Had he wanted to Kill Kabuto, he would have ignited the whole cave with Amaterasu, as he could see the Senjutsu chakra. One of them would have been Kabuto's. It wouldn't have mattered to Sasuke one bit, had he had the intent to kill. Protecting how many times? You mean the total of One time?

Get your facts straight.
 

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I dont agree with you. Sasuke did help out and all but i wouldnt go as far to say that he was a deciding factor in this war. Whether he went to the battlefield to sit and watch the SA+ 4 hokages and Naruto fighting Madara, Obito and the juubi would have had the same impact as it wouldve if he fought. Yea sure Sasuke did help in getting orochimaru to summon edo hokages and get them involved as well but lets be honest here the only useful ones where the 4th, and 2nd. The third was M.I.A during most of the action. Furthermore Sasuke fighting did not have any significant impact on obito and Madaras chances of wiping out the SA. If everyone that fought in this war had to fight without sasuke alone then it wouldnt have made that big of a difference. Besides Naruto also gave Sasuke a kyuubi cloak which made Sasuke More than three times stronger. Also Sasuke wasnt the one who brought hope to the SA it was Naruto. The SA were only given hope when they saw and felt the feelings and thoughts that dwelled within Narutos heart.
3 times stronger? where is the proof, seems to me you just made that up lol. Sasuke wasn't the one who brought hope?
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who brought hope to naruto, therefore the whole alliance?

In this War arc Naruto was the most significant character and the most important for the SA. Why? Naruto was the only one with the ability in the SA to use sage mode. Naruto gave Kuramas chakra to the whole SA which made them a lot stronger than they were. Naruto was not only concentrating on beating Madara and Obito but he also had to at the same time protect the entire SA with his cloak. Naruto was also the only one who had the ability to extract 2-7 tails chakra and kuramas chakra from juubito. If sasuke didnt fight and watched instead The SA's chances of winning would probably be very low. However if Naruto wasnt fighting and was the one watching the SA and sasuke fight then their chances of winning would be 0%. The SA would get penetrated.

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If there was no sasuke, this would not have happened. See this sword, wouldn't exist. no sasuke = SA has 0% chance.
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So gai would've probably died,(8 geights) and taken either Jubito and Sasuke with him or only one of them. ( Naruto would not have been able to pursuade obito.) Naruto would probably have still met with the Sage and gotten his power-up imo. :/ but yah that's just me but Sasuke did turn the tide.
 
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3 times stronger? where is the proof, seems to me you just made that up lol. Sasuke wasn't the one who brought hope?

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who brought hope to naruto, therefore the whole alliance?

If there was no sasuke, this would not have happened. See this sword, wouldn't exist. no sasuke = SA has 0% chance.
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So what if the sword didn't happen? Lol so? It was never stated that the sword was the only way to defeat obito. Furthermore it's not like the sword was obitos kryptonite. And one more thing it wasn't the sword that made him beat it was the extraction of the juubi.
 
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3 times stronger? where is the proof, seems to me you just made that up lol. Sasuke wasn't the one who brought hope?
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who brought hope to naruto, therefore the whole alliance?

If there was no sasuke, this would not have happened. See this sword, wouldn't exist. no sasuke = SA has 0% chance.
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^theres your proof. Ex oh
 
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I don't know which Manga you're reading, but had Sasuke not aided him he would have:

1) Gotten his Fuda Rewritten twice.

2) If he didn't tell him about Snakes, it would have taken him sometime to figure things out.

3) Had he not taken care of the Webs, Itachi would have been caught from the front, as he obviously wouldn't have taken care of front and back at the same time.

4) He wouldn't have broken out of the Genjutsu without Sasuke's MS Genjutsu.

Wait what? Sasuke didn't need protection. Had he wanted to Kill Kabuto, he would have ignited the whole cave with Amaterasu, as he could see the Senjutsu chakra. One of them would have been Kabuto's. It wouldn't have mattered to Sasuke one bit, had he had the intent to kill. Protecting how many times? You mean the total of One time?

Get your facts straight.

1.) kabuto never go two shots to rewrite it in the manga. The one time he did
Sasuke used Amaterasu. Itachi can use Amaterasu so Sasuke wasn't needed.
2.) itachis not knowing how snakes sense would not affect his chances of winning.
3.) itachis susano with multiple arms is more than enough for that....
4.) itachis could break out of a genjutsu easily... Lol
 
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