[VS] Sasuke VS Avatar Aang

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Rofl, Amaterasu and any other elemental attack on Sasuke's part is made of Chakra , something absent in the universe of Avatar, which means Aang can't bend any of it, in the same way Genjutsu wouldn't work on him because he lacks Chakra, he can't bend any of Sasuke's flames due to the same reason, he has no way of destroying, incapacitating, trapping or stopping Susano'o at all, the only thing he can do against Susano'o is stand before it and let Sasuke brutally kill him with it, I didn't even mention Rinnegan here, that would be waaaaaaaaaay overkill.

There is chakra in the Avatar universe. Aang opened the chakra paths at the end of season 2 with the guru. A grown up fully realized Avatar Aang should be able to stop "chakra flow" (yes they actually describe chakra as flowing through the body in the show).
 

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Just realized Aang can redirect Kirin back at Sasuke too...
 

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There is chakra in the Avatar universe. Aang opened the chakra paths at the end of season 2 with the guru. A grown up fully realized Avatar Aang should be able to stop "chakra flow" (yes they actually describe chakra as flowing through the body in the show).

They're two very different types of Chakra.
 

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Aang wins, Amaterasu isn't killing him because he has airbending which just like Shinra Tensei can get rid of it, Any elemental jutsu that Sasuke tries to use will be thrown back because Aang is in full control of all elements Sasuke has.



The chakra in Avatar is different from the one in Naruto, So there is no same chakra to be disturbed by genjutsu.

They're two very different types of Chakra.


Chi and chakra are pretty similar actually they should fall under the law of equivalence
 

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Sasuke's Kirin reaches the ground in 1/1000th of a second. Just how is he redirecting it?

Well, either
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If you're going by scientific fact, then yes. Any being of this world wouldn't be able to redirect a bolt of lightning. But then we look at what Itachi did with his Susano'o. He reacted before Kirin could hurt him by enveloping in Susano'o. Again if we're going all scientific here, lightning is the same speed everywhere. Meaning when Ozai shot a bolt at Aang, it must have been going at the speed you described. And the distance from the sky to the ground was greater than the distance between Aang and Ozai, meaning Aang must have had even greater reflexes than the speed of lightning (which is ludicrous)

OOOOOOORRR

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We can come to the conclusion that all lightning attacks in Naruto and in the Avatar universe are not as fast as they are in real life (because if they were then anybody using Kirin would literally solo everyone in the Narutoverse and beyond) therefore meaning Aang can react to the fantasized slower version of lightning.

I personally think number 2 makes more sense. But hey you still wanna say it travels at that speed, fine by me.
 

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Chi and chakra are pretty similar actually they should fall under the law of equivalence

Thy are two different types of energy from two different verses, like DBZ's Ki or Bleach's Reiryoku, but I do realize my reply won't change anyone's mind on this matter as this equivalence thing has been debated multiple times, not only in this thread but in almost every forum, and the debates never gone anywhere but people agreeing to disagree, which is why pitting characters from different verses against each other is pointless, every single thread of these end up with people debating whether or not the energies are equivalent.
 
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They're two very different types of Chakra.

Chakra in the avatar world are referred to as "chakra nexuses", "gates" if you will (sound familiar?). Energy is allowed to flow throughout the body when the person has these chakras open.

Chakra in the naruto world flows through chakra paths in their body, and they too can open these nexuses (the 8 gates).

Since the amount of chakra the person has correlates with the amount of energy the person has, it means energy is synonymous with chakra. Since Aang can energybend (literally), he can take away or manipulate his chakra (energy) as I have stated.
 

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Well, either
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If you're going by scientific fact, then yes. Any being of this world wouldn't be able to redirect a bolt of lightning. But then we look at what Itachi did with his Susano'o. He reacted before Kirin could hurt him by enveloping in Susano'o. Again if we're going all scientific here, lightning is the same speed everywhere. Meaning when Ozai shot a bolt at Aang, it must have been going at the speed you described. And the distance from the sky to the ground was greater than the distance between Aang and Ozai, meaning Aang must have had even greater reflexes than the speed of lightning (which is ludicrous)

OOOOOOORRR

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We can come to the conclusion that all lightning attacks in Naruto and in the Avatar universe are not as fast as they are in real life (because if they were then anybody using Kirin would literally solo everyone in the Narutoverse and beyond) therefore meaning Aang can react to the fantasized slower version of lightning.

I personally think number 2 makes more sense. But hey you still wanna say it travels at that speed, fine by me.


Itachi had his up the second he realized he was going to throw Kirin at him.

Ozai shot lightning at Aang slower than Kirin lands. I watched like every episode of Avatar when I was little. I know, super nerdy haha. But still, controlling a single bolt of lightning was nearly impossible for Aang at first and took all his concentration. Roku stated that it could kill you.

So the idea that Aang can control ALL of that while its speed lands in 1/1000th of a second is just impossible, even though he's one of my favorite characters ever.
 

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Now, Aang beats EMS Sasuke or Rinnegan Sasuke? I guess it goes to show you how little people know of the difference between power levels.

Sasuke buttrapes...​
Nope. It's just that most of the base either d rides Naruto or just hates on the Sauce.

I'm not surprised.
 

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Itachi had his up the second he realized he was going to throw Kirin at him.

Ozai shot lightning at Aang slower than Kirin lands. I watched like every episode of Avatar when I was little. I know, super nerdy haha. But still, controlling a single bolt of lightning was nearly impossible for Aang at first and took all his concentration. Roku stated that it could kill you.

So the idea that Aang can control ALL of that while it's speed lands in 1/1000th of a second is just impossible, even though he's one of my favorite characters ever.

While I agree with you on the part where you said the quantity of lightning would be too much for a child Aang to redirect, how can you say lightning is faster in one show than in another show, if you're using a scientific fact of the typical speed of lightning?

I believe an adult Aang could easily redirect Kirin, but since no one has ever seen his capabilities it's so-so.

And its not nerdy at all. One of the best shows ever. And Iroh/Zuko stated it could kill you if you don't redirect it properly, not Roku.
 

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While I agree with you on the part where you said the quantity of lightning would be too much for a child Aang to redirect, how can you say lightning is faster in one show than in another show, if you're using a scientific fact of the typical speed of lightning?

I believe an adult Aang could easily redirect Kirin, but since no one has ever seen his capabilities it's so-so.

And its not nerdy at all. One of the best shows ever. And Iroh/Zuko stated it could kill you if you don't redirect it properly, not Roku.

He is not using scientific fact, he is using MANGA fact.
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While I agree with you on the part where you said the quantity of lightning would be too much for a child Aang to redirect, how can you say lightning is faster in one show than in another show, if you're using a scientific fact of the typical speed of lightning?

I believe an adult Aang could easily redirect Kirin, but since no one has ever seen his capabilities it's so-so.

And its not nerdy at all. One of the best shows ever. And Iroh/Zuko stated it could kill you if you don't redirect it properly, not Roku.

Oh yeah, I think I remember now. Zuko learned about redirecting lightning from Azula right?

He might be able to redirect Kirin, but the problem is that if Sasuke wanted to he wouldn't have to only use that one bolt of lightning, so idk if Aang could redirect multiple bolts simultaneously.


Queen Azula forever :C
 

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While I agree with you on the part where you said the quantity of lightning would be too much for a child Aang to redirect, how can you say lightning is faster in one show than in another show, if you're using a scientific fact of the typical speed of lightning?

I believe an adult Aang could easily redirect Kirin, but since no one has ever seen his capabilities it's so-so.

And its not nerdy at all. One of the best shows ever. And Iroh/Zuko stated it could kill you if you don't redirect it properly, not Roku.

No limits Fallacy BS

Aang can hardly react to lightning moving in a millisecond (unless you believe the Iroh outlier) but even so it would fry him in a millisecond especially when he had a hard time bending normal lightning


It's like saying any fodder earth bender can bench a mountain cause they made a rock float


Your arguments are fanfic speculation


Sasuke stomps in the most heinous rape ever

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Doesn't Sasuke have Kirin for a few seconds and then throw it? If I remember correctly Sasuke didn't throw Kirin right when he summoned it. If Aang manipulates Kirin in the time frame that Sasuke summons it he might be able to throw it at Sasuke.
 

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No limits Fallacy BS

Aang can hardly react to lightning moving in a millisecond (unless you believe the Iroh outlier) but even so it would fry him in a millisecond especially when he had a hard time bending normal lightning


It's like saying any fodder earth bender can bench a mountain cause they made a rock float


Your arguments are fanfic speculation


Sasuke stomps in the most heinous rape ever

/thread

If you're talking about me believing adult Aang could redirect a Kirin easily, its not an argument, its just a belief based on hype.

I am not your enemy haha :p
 

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Oh yeah, I think I remember now. Zuko learned about redirecting lightning from Azula right?

He might be able to redirect Kirin, but the problem is that if Sasuke wanted to he wouldn't have to only use that one bolt of lightning, so idk if Aang could redirect multiple bolts simultaneously.


Queen Azula forever :C

Nah Iroh created the redirection technique himself by observing water benders and they're push and pull movements.
 
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