[VS] Minato and Jiraiya vs Itachi and Kisame

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Minato takes Shima and Jiraya takes Fukasaku.

Infinite Sage mode for both Team 1 members. GG
 

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Minato takes Shima and Jiraya takes Fukasaku.

Infinite Sage mode for both Team 1 members. GG

They don't need SM honestly. SM would make it a neg difficulty stomp because Kisame is out when they use it. If he attempts to absorb any chakra via Samehdah he is turned into stone and dead.
 

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They don't need SM honestly. SM would make it a neg difficulty stomp because Kisame is out when they use it. If he attempts to absorb any chakra via Samehdah he is turned into stone and dead.

depends how much he absorbs, we've seen preta path absorb a giant rasengan without transforming into a toad.

I don't think sm is needed either, but I thought I better mention it for those who think there is even any argument for team 2.
 

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Itachi admitted him and Kisame would lose to Jiraya #canon

so Jiraiya can solo and Mianto neg-diff solos

so team 1

There's no point in even arguing when it's already canon that jiraiya takes Kisame and Itachi together
 
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This is...god, I don't even know, lol. Words cannot explain how idiotic this is. Jiraiya, once trapped in the water dome, has no way to escape. Jiraiya has no way to counter Amaterasu. Once in Tsukuyomi, he has no way to leave it if Ma and Pa are already sunbathing in black flames. Minato has ways to counter Kisame's water dome and Itachi's Amaterasu (debatable), but once in Itachi's Tsukuyomi, there's no leaving it for him if Jiraiya is dead. Even if he's not dead, Kisame will be distracting Jiraiya to the point of where it's not possible to help Minato.

Izanagi, Izanami, KA, Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, Susano'o, Yata, Sakegari, Itachi is enough to win it, especially with Kisame.
 

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This is...god, I don't even know, lol. Words cannot explain how idiotic this is. Jiraiya, once trapped in the water dome, has no way to escape. Jiraiya has no way to counter Amaterasu. Once in Tsukuyomi, he has no way to leave it if Ma and Pa are already sunbathing in black flames. Minato has ways to counter Kisame's water dome and Itachi's Amaterasu (debatable), but once in Itachi's Tsukuyomi, there's no leaving it for him if Jiraiya is dead. Even if he's not dead, Kisame will be distracting Jiraiya to the point of where it's not possible to help Minato.

Izanagi, Izanami, KA, Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, Susano'o, Yata, Sakegari, Itachi is enough to win it, especially with Kisame.

So much is wrong with your post, but I can't be arsed to point them all out. What I would love to know though, is how Izanami will effect Jiraya or Minato. Please explain this to me, I can't wait to read your explanation for this.
 

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- Where the hell did you get the idea that Minato's kunai's are heavier than Itachi's? o_O, completely ludicrous. Kunai's are kunai's. He's not going to be able to teleport using them with Itachi there. He's going to have to tag him. And Itachi's speed in base > Minato's.


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Minato himself stated that his Kunai are heavier than regular kunai and that they take some time to get used to...



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Minato's Shunshin is one of the fastest in the series. Obito even says Minato lives up to his title while using Shunshin.

OT: Team one wins high diff. All Minato has to do is mark Jiraiya at the beginning of the battle in order to save him from harm (ex. Water dome). FTG is a lot more useful when used in team combinations. Genjutsu can be avoided by using FTG and Kage Bunshins creatively. It's not a guaranteed counter, but it makes it a lot harder to ''Genjutsu gg'' Minato.
 

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So much is wrong with your post, but I can't be arsed to point them all out. What I would love to know though, is how Izanami will effect Jiraya or Minato. Please explain this to me, I can't wait to read your explanation for this.

I never said it would affect him, did I?

Congratulations, you found one half inaccuracy in my post. Your life is now complete.
 

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Minato's Shunshin is one of the fastest in the series. Obito even says Minato lives up to his title while using Shunshin.

OT: Team one wins high diff. All Minato has to do is mark Jiraiya at the beginning of the battle in order to save him from harm (ex. Water dome). FTG is a lot more useful when used in team combinations. Genjutsu can be avoided by using FTG and Kage Bunshins creatively. It's not a guaranteed counter, but it makes it a lot harder to ''Genjutsu gg'' Minato.

^Indeed Minato could tag him and teleport him out of the water dome. However, I've yet to see a counter for Amaterasu. Can he teleport him out of that as well? lol.

The only way Kisame dies is if Minato performs the Reaper Death Seal, but I'm pretty sure that takes a while to perform. Kisame can take any damage thrown at him because of the fact that he can both be healed by Samehada and merge with him. During the duration Minato takes to perform the RDS, Itachi can seal him with the Sakegari, but I doubt Minato would risk doing that.

Again, Jiraiya has no counter, no counter at all, to Amaterasu. He'll die in the beginning of the battle. It's basically going to come down to Kisame and Itachi tag teaming Minato. I have alot of respect to Minato as a character, he's a genius, I acknowledge that. But so is Itachi. He's arguably the best analyzer in the whole series. With Kisame tanking and dishing out damage while constantly being healed and causing chaos by spamming his tsunami-level and building-height water style attacks, I wouldn't be surprised to suddenly find Itachi using Shunshin to teleport in either one of the duo's face to cast Tsukuyomi. And once that happens, there's no escaping it.

Itachi's Sharingan will pick up on where he's leaving his FTG tags just like he did with Nagato's summonings, and when he finds them all he can easily leave a layer of Amaterasu on each one to stop Minato from teleporting there. As for the kunai's? He said it was only a little bit heavier than regular kunai. Itachi simply uses a few more kunai to deflect it instead of one, or attaches a paper bomb to his instead. Even if Jiraiya or Minato attack Itachi head on, he'd turn into crows and cast Genjutsu from there, affecting not only one of them but the toads on their shoulders as well.
 
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I never said it would affect him, did I?

Congratulations, you found one half inaccuracy in my post. Your life is now complete.


You clearly said Izanami is enough to win it for Itachi, so please tell me how? Look at you trying to justify your post, why would you even mention izanami if you didn't think it would effect them. Please just log off.
 

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You clearly said Izanami is enough to win it for Itachi, so please tell me how? Look at you trying to justify your post, why would you even mention izanami if you didn't think it would effect them. Please just log off.

I was merely stating his most prominent arsenal abilities. You're the one assuming an insinuation. Calm your nonexistant testicles.
 
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ROTFLMAO.

No. Just no.

Itachi said Jiraiya was stronger because he needed to leave to protect Konoha and Naruto from being captured. This has been adressed MULTIPLE times. Itachi was a spy in the Akatsuki. Obito even stated that Itachi made him stay away from Konoha. Itachi could of killed Kurenai, Kakashi, Asuma, and Guy if he wanted to. But he didn't. He even stopped Kisame from fighting Kakashi, because apparently "he didn't want him to get damaged." He's always been on Konoha's side. He only said that as an excuse to avoid looking suspicious in the Akatsuki's eyes.

The fact that you think Jiraiya can solo ANYONE here is laughable.

Shut up fanboy. Nobody here is taking you seriously. The only thing soloing anything is AIDS soloing Itachi. U mad bro?
 

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Shut up fanboy. Nobody here is taking you seriously. The only thing soloing anything is AIDS soloing Itachi. U mad bro?

Hope you realize the majority of fanboys are fanboys of Minato.
 

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I was merely stating his most prominent arsenal abilities. You're the one assuming an insinuation. Calm your nonexistant testicles.
Then next time don't mention irrelevanet abilities that have nothing to do with the fight just because you feel like fanboying over itachi. Jiraya has one of the largest arsenal's in the manga, should I start listing all his jutsu as well as pointless abilities too?
Pretty sure you need to merge with both to enter SM.

No you don't. Fukaksaku already offered to do it alone with naruto.
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Then next time don't mention irrelevanet abilities that have nothing to do with the fight just because you feel like fanboying over itachi. Jiraya has one of the largest arsenal's in the manga, should I start listing all his jutsu as well as pointless abilities too?


No you don't. Fukaksaku already offered to do it alone with naruto.
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Alright, my bad. Now both of them have imperfect Sage Fusion. How formidable.

You don't need to write a paragraph about a minor detail, btw. If it matters that much to you then I'll say Izanagi, Sakegari, Yata, Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Susano'o, and Koto Amatsukami instead.


Not to mention Kisame can have Samehada heal Itachi and replenish his chakra any time he needs. Or in a last case scenario, have Samehada drain all of Kisame's chakra and add it on top of Itachi's. There goes the stamina issue, even for a sick Itachi.
 
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Alright, my bad. Now both of them have imperfect Sage Fusion. How formidable.

Honestly man just stop, if this is how you want to debate then I really don't want to be part of it and your bias.

Like seriously? What the hell is imperfect sage fusion, something you just made up?
 

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Alright, my bad. Now both of them have imperfect Sage Fusion. How formidable.

You don't need to write a paragraph about a minor detail, btw.

What do you mean by imperfect fusion? There is no such a thing as imperfect fusion in Naruto as far as I know.
 
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