[VS] Minato and Jiraiya vs Itachi and Kisame

[LustyLover]

Counter them then

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That's why he couldn't even outspeed Sasuke when finding Kabuto despite not wanting him to follow him right? Plus Sasuke has better eyes, yet he couldn't follow. Itachi's inferior eyes aren't helping much

While Naruto had less than 1/22 of his chakra and only was there for a talk. As for Bee, he was trying to make Naruto focus. When he actually tried)1 on 1), Itachi could do nothing else than fleeing away [

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Fixed it for you

- He has to throw his FTG marked Kunai and teleport to it in order to have a chance to blitz. Sasuke dodged Bee's lariat in Kyuubi form, which is nearly the equivalent in speed, and Itachi > Sasuke by far in speed.

- He did outrun him. Sasuke caught up awhile after Itachi got to his location. Naruto WAS trying. He was going as hard against Itachi as he was going against Nagato. Are you saying he wasn't trying to beat Nagato and purposely let him almost suck his soul right out of him? (which he would of done, if Itachi did save him v.v)

- Naruto had 1/22 of his chakra? LOL, where are you getting your equations from? If he had only that much chakra, he wouldn't even be in KCM mode.

- What I see in one of your scans is Naruto saying, "watch out, Bee, if you're caught in Itachi's Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu, you're done for!" So explain to me, once Minato and Jiraiya are caught in his Tsukuyomi, which they will be, how do they escape it?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

But in all seriousness, Team One does win this. At a high difficulty though.

 

[LustyLover]

But in all seriousness, Team One does win this. At a high difficulty though.

How? They have no counter to Tsukuyomi, and Minato is going to need tags already in other places in order to escape Amaterasu (which I'm assuming he doesn't have).

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

How? They have no counter to Tsukuyomi, and Minato is going to need tags already in other places in order to escape Amaterasu (which I'm assuming he doesn't have).

Itachi isn't going to resort to using Tsukuyomi right away. Nor will he have to look at his eyes once the battle gets going. His tags? He can toss his kunai to casually surround the Juubi. . . I think he's good on evading. The main reason I believe he takes this is because of how versatile FTG is. While he himself may not have any purely destructive techniques, he is more than capable of sending some of his opponents back at them via the S/T barrier.

Not to mention frog song.

 

[Wave.]

Stfu TAC and don't use that username.

OT: Itachi throws Kisame to Minato's side and then solo's all three of them.

 

[Apêx1]

Team 2 mid diff.

 

[LustyLover]

Itachi isn't going to resort to using Tsukuyomi right away. Nor will he have to look at his eyes once the battle gets going. His tags? He can toss his kunai to casually surround the Juubi. . . I think he's good on evading. The main reason I believe he takes this is because of how versatile FTG is. While he himself may not have any purely destructive techniques, he is more than capable of sending some of his opponents back at them via the S/T barrier.

Not to mention frog song.

Itachi can cast Genjutsu on the two frogs before Jiraiya even knows what's happening.

Same for Minato. A serious Itachi ends battles quickly. He embarrassed Orochimaru and Deidara by using minor Genjutsu without even trying. He knows Minato's reputation and speed, so he won't let him get to use his FTG before he uses Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi.

Minato does have a chance to live longer, though, if he gets lucky and spams his FTG RIGHT AWAY. Still, Jiraiya is getting killed quickly, and any summons he uses will be placed under Genjutsu. He also has no counter to Amaterasu, and Itachi can place the two toads under Genjutsu (or kill them) so they can't break him out of it, and then use Tsukuyomi on Jiraiya. Although, if he doesn't want to resort to using Tsukuyomi and killing and or placing the toads under Genjutsu, he simply uses Amaterasu on Jiraiya. And if the toads try to use Frog Song, they will soon be singing with a mouth full of Amaterasu, or he could simply use a more advanced Genjutsu reversal. Nobody can put Itachi under Genjutsu and succeed. If he does want to use Tsukuyomi, he could place the toads under a Genjutsu for a short while then cast his Tsukuyomi on Jiraiya, or he could just flat out kill the toads with Amaterasu and then cast it, OR kill them all simultaneously with the black flames.

 

[TheTailedSage]

But in all seriousness, Team One does win this. At a high difficulty though.

You've been missing LOL

 

[Bogard]

- He has to throw his FTG marked Kunai and teleport to it in order to have a chance to blitz. Sasuke dodged Bee's lariat in Kyuubi form, which is nearly the equivalent in speed, and Itachi > Sasuke by far in speed.

So and? Throwing kunais is one of the fastest moves in the manga. He would be on Itachi right away just like he was on Rikudo Madara despite being 40meters away initially. Also, Sasuke only dodged it due to his eyes and Sasuke has better eyes than Itachi

- He did outrun him. Sasuke caught up awhile after Itachi got to his location. Naruto WAS trying. He was going as hard against Itachi as he was going against Nagato. Are you saying he wasn't trying to beat Nagato and purposely let him almost suck his soul right out of him? (which he would of done, if Itachi did save him v.v)

When did he outrun him? Sasuke kept up with him the long while to catch up to Kabuto and Itachi ressorted to summoning distraction simply because he couldn't outspeed his younger brother and even with that, Sasuke still got the time to kill them and arrive few seconds after his arrival inside Kabuto's cave

- Naruto had 1/22 of his chakra? LOL, where are you getting your equations from? If he had only that much chakra, he wouldn't even be in KCM mode.

Naruto had spread his clones before encountering Itachi and Nagato:

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And since clone split chakra evenly, so...

- What I see in one of your scans is Naruto saying, "watch out, Bee, if you're caught in Itachi's Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu, you're done for!" So explain to me, once Minato and Jiraiya are caught in his Tsukuyomi, which they will be, how do they escape it?

And if you see better you'll realise Itachi had to stand stil just to cast Amaterasu [

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] And got saved by Nagato's Shinra tensei, otherwise, he would have had a hole in the head instead. A speedster like Minato would waste no time to kill him in this state

 

[LustyLover]

So and? Throwing kunais is one of the fastest moves in the manga. He would be on Itachi right away just like he was on Rikudo Madara despite being 40meters away initially. Also, Sasuke only dodged it due to his eyes and Sasuke has better eyes than Itachi

When did he outrun him? Sasuke kept up with him the long while to catch up to Kabuto and Itachi ressorted to summoning distraction simply because he couldn't outspeed his younger brother and even with that, Sasuke still got the time to kill them and arrive few seconds after his arrival inside Kabuto's cave

Naruto had spread his clones before encountering Itachi and Nagato:

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And since clone split chakra evenly, so...


And if you see better you'll realise Itachi had to stand stil just to cast Amaterasu [

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] And got saved by Nagato's Shinra tensei, otherwise, he would have had a hole in the head instead. A speedster like Minato would waste no time to kill him in this state

- Itachi is the best kunai thrower in the whole series. If Minato uses it to teleport, he could easily deflect it.

- We already have solid evidence that Itachi is faster than Sasuke. It's pretty useless to refute it.

- Naruto was said to be able to use WAY over 22 clones due to Kurama's massive chakra reserves as well as his own Uzumaki chakra. Making 22 isn't as much as you think it is. He was still able to move and perform as he would normally.

- That's a false scan. He was summoning the crow inside of Naruto and casting Koto Amatsukami. He wasn't saved by Nagato. Kabuto was still controlling the both of them at the time, so he had Itachi stay still and had Nagato use ST to push the kunai away instead of having Itachi dodge, which he is more than capable of doing.

 

[Bogard]

- Itachi is the best kunai thrower in the whole series. If Minato uses it to teleport, he could easily deflect it.

Minato's kunais are heavier than normal and he can throw kunais with more strength than him, so a deflection is unlikely. Not to mention he would only end up wasting his kunais when Minato could just collect them back -since they are linked to him- and throw them again. In the end, Itachi would be the one losing the edge

- We already have solid evidence that Itachi is faster than Sasuke. It's pretty useless to refute it.

We've a mangafact that Itachi can't outspeed Sasuke. it's pretty useless to refute it

- Naruto was said to be able to use WAY over 22 clones due to Kurama's massive chakra reserves as well as his own Uzumaki chakra. Making 22 isn't as much as you think it is. He was still able to move and perform as he would normally.

At that point, Naruto could only take a limited amount of Kyubi's chakra and making clone was dangerous to him [

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], yet he did that. He was low on chakra. It's not for nothing that despite just having used 2 Rasen chakra balls during the entire skirmich, the KCM directly ran out after Nagato was defeated

- That's a false scan. He was summoning the crow inside of Naruto and casting Koto Amatsukami. He wasn't saved by Nagato. Kabuto was still controlling the both of them at the time, so he had Itachi stay still and had Nagato use ST to push the kunai away instead of having Itachi dodge, which he is more than capable of doing.

He summoned nothing. He was using Amaterasu, but since Itachi set uped the crow in order to react to his MS, it came out and casted KA on him instead, so no he was trying to use Amaterasu and got saved by Nagato

 

[LustyLover]

Minato's kunais are heavier than normal and he can throw kunais with more strength than him, so a deflection is unlikely. Not to mention he would only end up wasting his kunais when Minato could just collect them back -since they are linked to him- and throw them again. In the end, Itachi would be the one losing the edge


We've a mangafact that Itachi can't outspeed Sasuke. it's pretty useless to refute it

At that point, Naruto could only take a limited amount of Kyubi's chakra and making clone was dangerous to him [

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], yet he did that. He was low on chakra. It's not for nothing that despite just having used 2 Rasen chakra balls during the entire skirmich, the KCM directly ran out after Nagato was defeated


He summoned nothing. He was using Amaterasu, but since Itachi set uped the crow in order to react to his MS, it came out and casted KA on him instead, so no he was trying to use Amaterasu and got saved by Nagato

- Where the hell did you get the idea that Minato's kunai's are heavier than Itachi's? , completely ludicrous. Kunai's are kunai's. He's not going to be able to teleport using them with Itachi there. He's going to have to tag him. And Itachi's speed in base > Minato's.

- I've never seen any proof in either anime or manga that Sasuke could outspeed Itachi. Show me proof then.

- He ran out of KCM because the connection between Kurama and him wasn't perfect. Kurama even stated that that's why KCM would run out quickly. Naruto still had a ton of chakra. He's a Jinchuuriki.

- Itachi states multiple times that he used it on himself. That's the reason why he activated his MS, so it could respond and cast KA on him. That's why he waited there. This also doesn't change the fact that Kabuto was still controlling them both. He MADE Itachi stay there and he MADE Nagato use ST to protect him. Nagato even said that his body was moving on its own during that exact scene. If Nagato was being controlled before KA was casted, then so was Itachi. Itachi could easily dodge a knife if he wanted to. For you to think otherwise is simply humorous.

 

[Bogard]

- Where the hell did you get the idea that Minato's kunai's are heavier than Itachi's? , completely ludicrous. Kunai's are kunai's. He's not going to be able to teleport using them with Itachi there. He's going to have to tag him. And Itachi's speed in base > Minato's.

- I've never seen any proof in either anime or manga that Sasuke could outspeed Itachi. Show me proof then.

- He ran out of KCM because the connection between Kurama and him wasn't perfect. Kurama even stated that that's why KCM would run out quickly. Naruto still had a ton of chakra. He's a Jinchuuriki.

- Itachi states multiple times that he used it on himself. That's the reason why he activated his MS, so it could respond and cast KA on him. That's why he waited there. This also doesn't change the fact that Kabuto was still controlling them both. He MADE Itachi stay there and he MADE Nagato use ST to protect him. Nagato even said that his body was moving on its own during that exact scene. If Nagato was being controlled before KA was casted, then so was Itachi. Itachi could easily dodge a knife if he wanted to. For you to think otherwise is simply humorous.

Not even going to bother anymore

 

[LustyLover]

Not even going to bother anymore

Have a nice afternoon!

 

[LuckyMan]

Not even going to bother anymore

Why even reason with fanboys?

 

[WreckRoll]

minato solos

really ? how ?

 

[LustyLover]

Why even reason with fanboys?

Calling someone a fanboy just because they prove valid points is a really ignorant remark.

 

[A v i]

Minato and Itachi wins this.

 

[LustyLover]

Minato and Itachi wins this.

LOL uh wut?

 

[Tenasa Uchiha]

Team 1 high diff