Obito feared Itachi more than he feared ANY ONE else

[Klad]

But that's a panel of when Itachi was lying to Sasuke and giving him a reason for the fight...which wasn't true at all. :/

I dont think he was lying about Madara's current power . (Obito's) . Why would he ? Itachi knew Obito would still approach Sasuke somehow .

 

[Ababeel]

Lol, no. Itachi was obito's pawn. He used him to the very end, then threw him as any gar*** and used Sasuke after him
when itachi became useless.

 

[Tobi98]

Dude Obito would stomp Itachi, Obito said that if Itachi had enough information he might win but he doesn't so he get s stomped

 

[iNotorious]

haha iNotorious forever be butt hurt that I own him with manga facts he can't refute

manga facts? what manga facts? haha Mellanoma

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

obito barely considered itachi a blimp on his radar. his only concern was getting the jins. when itachi died, did obito rush off to kill him some konoha ninjas? NO. whatever personal revenge he wanted to do to kakashi had to wait. the priority is the jins.
and they tried to get naruto when he wasnt in the village like with deidara and kakuzu. its not like kakuzu is gonna be like "oh wait, its naruto. off limits guys, off limits".
and hidan is definitely going to ignore obitos orders.

Obito left Konoha alone until AFTER Itachi died

and then continued to leave it alone, choosing instead to declare war on everyone.

However, there was one man he did not cross and that was Itachi.

because he doesnt want to lose himself a powerful subordinate

Obito has said on 2 Occasions that he is really relieved that Itachi was gone.

lol because he knew itachi wanted him dead. but he couldnt exactly publicly move on itachi, since that loses them the powerful subordinate they need to help seal the bijuus and further their ends

However, the only person he never eliminated was Itachi because due to Obito's belief that Itachi would kill him if he knew his secret. Obito feared him and kept his distance.

funny since i seem to remember obito laughing off itachis final assasination attempt and calling him a fail.
and for someone who kept his distance, he not only knew everything about itachi but also itachi spent enough time near him to rig a trap to react to obitos own sharingan. how could he if he barely ever even saw said sharingan in the last 10 or so years.
obito confirmed he was stronger than itachi.
he said "i kept a few secrets of my own. if i hadnt id be dead".
this means itachis only shot of killing him via surprise assasination was with full intel. he wasnt talking about face to face combat.

 

[Mellanoma]

Make more hiruzen neutalizer thread not itachi threads

-your first point is invalid because obito intact did NOT know what Minato was capable of, he didn't know that his mark never disappears and neither did he knew about hiraishin stage two or stage three which wasn't even used

-second point is also invalid because the kyuubi was to be sealed last, after all the other bijuus have been captured, if he told itachi he isn't attacking konoha for his sake then itachi got played for a sucker as obito cares only for the eye of the moon plan

-itachi was an eyesore, obito in fact knew everything about itachi's plan and he let him do it to ultimately manipulate sasuke into coming to his side

Explain the following:

Why did Obito backstab everyone except Itachi
Why did Obito avoid Itachi and hide his abilities from him?

 

[Erebus]

Well he believes that itachi can solo the sage of the six paths.

Oh, oh, well that explains it :snick:

Explain the following:

Why did Obito backstab everyone except Itachi
Why did Obito avoid Itachi and hide his abilities from him?

He was a double agent, backstabbing comes with the job prescription

He avoided showing everyone his abilities

 

[Chief Darui]

Seems true enough. He did state several times that Itachi amazed him and that he would be dead if he knew his secret which pretty much confirms this.

 

[Mellanoma]

manga facts? what manga facts? haha Mellanoma

exactly you don't read manga

 

[Ame no kage]

I dont think he was lying about Madara's current power . (Obito's) . Why would he ? Itachi knew Obito would still approach Sasuke somehow .

lol thats just like saying itachi was telling the truth when he told kisame he would lose to j-man, but would come out even if it was himself xD awesome logic there mate xD

 

[iNotorious]

Oh, oh, well that explains it :snick:

Yup

exactly you don't read manga

Better than you that's for sure.

 

[Klad]

lol thats just like saying itachi was telling the truth when he told kisame he would lose to j-man, but would come out even if it was himself xD awesome logic there mate xD

Nope . That's a different thing . Don't compare . ABC logic doesnt apply on Naruto .

 

[Chie]

I dont think he was lying about Madara's current power . (Obito's) . Why would he ? Itachi knew Obito would still approach Sasuke somehow .

In one panel Itachi says that Madara (Obito) is a weak shell of his former self, in another he states that he needs Sasuke's eyes to surpass him (which we find out is not his true motive). That's just inconsistent. Itachi didn't even know Obito's true power, Obito would stay away and keep his moveset out of Itachi's sight. That statement just looks like Itachi giving an excuse and one of his many lies. He had to give a reason for wanting Sasuke's eyes, so he stated that it was to beat Obito.

 

[Ame no kage]

Nope . That's a different thing . Don't compare . ABC logic doesnt apply on Naruto .

might want to take your own advice bojangle, cause all i see in your points are contradictions

 

[Chie]

He was a double agent, backstabbing comes with the job prescription

He avoided showing everyone his abilities

Obito wasn't a double agent...confusing him with Itachi?

No. He used kamui freely in front of Deidara, Nagato, and Konan considering those three knew about it. We don't know if he used it in front of the others or not. Kisame might have known about it to, considering that he was one of the most loyal members and Obito respected him.

lol thats just like saying itachi was telling the truth when he told kisame he would lose to j-man, but would come out even if it was himself xD awesome logic there mate xD

He didn't just state that. As they were leaving, Kisame asked Itachi why it was a retreat for him and he replied that even with Kisame's help and other backup, they would still lose to J-man. Itachi didn't really tell the truth much when he was alive. He had to keep up a constant facade. Shown in that case and in that scan of him stating he wanted Sasuke's eyes to surpass Obito...when he didn't even know about all of Obito's abilities and the latter had to resort to hiding them from him in order to stay safe. :/

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

Because he knew what itachi was capable of

this is facts only

 

[Ame no kage]

He didn't just state that. As they were leaving, Kisame asked Itachi why it was a retreat for him and he replied that even with Kisame's help and other backup, they would still lose to J-man. Itachi didn't really tell the truth much when he was alive. He had to keep up a constant facade. Shown in that case and in that scan of him stating he wanted Sasuke's eyes to surpass Obito...when he didn't even know about all of Obito's abilities. :/

my point exactly

 

[Fuzzy Panda]

Simple reason why Obito did all that: Itachi is a badass mother f*****.

 

[the last shinobi]

It's time to face the facts guys

Obito was afraid of Itachi and here is why

Everything below is manga facts: Disregard them all you want but the truth is there


Obito before finding redemption has always been the non trust worthy, manipulative, cold hearted guy since RIN death. As a matter of fact if Obito felt you were a threat he would eliminate you. However, the only person he never eliminated was Itachi because due to Obito's belief that Itachi would kill him if he knew his secret. Obito feared him and kept his distance.

Point 1:

Obito openly attacked Minato knowing what his teacher was capable of. This is the point i'm making. Obito will attack and kill any one who he feels is a threat to his plan he lacks any respect for any one. Why would he not kill Itachi who was the biggest threat to his plan even as an adult? Answer: He equally feared and respected him.

Point 2:

Obito left Konoha alone until AFTER Itachi died

When has Obito EVER kept his part of a bargain?

Deals he broke:

[B]Reviving Madara
Making Madara the Jin
Helping Danzo
Helping Nagato
Using his Akatsuki as sacrifices
[/B]
However, there was one man he did not cross and that was Itachi.

Point 3:

Obito has said on 2 Occasions that he is really relieved that Itachi was gone.

Convo with Zetsu: "Itachi is dead I can breathe easier" or "Itachi is dead he is no longer a thorn in my side"

Convo with Sasuke: "If Itachi had known my secret I would be dead"


Conclusion:

With all this evidence AND being backed by manga references and character situations from different characters. It's safe to say that Obito feared Itachi

Thoughts?

this whole section is wrong it wasn't Obito that was suppose to revive him it was Nagato, One of the first things Madara asked to obito is what happened to nagato

The plan was not for him to sacrifice his life so Madara could be juubi jin

We have no proof that he was suppose to help danzo do anything, the only thing we know is that they haven't seen each other since "that night"

he did help nagato build an Akatuski stronger than the one that he made, one that could actually change the world

That was the point of having such a strong team of ninjas who aren't afraid of death just in case of them get caught or loses a battle. In the words of Gaara the akatuski a very loyal none of them talk(With the exception of Sensori) the Akatuski are ninjas and ninjas are tools they were all aware of this.

Now exactly who did obito backstab

 

[Tobi98]

obito barely considered itachi a blimp on his radar. his only concern was getting the jins. when itachi died, did obito rush off to kill him some konoha ninjas? NO. whatever personal revenge he wanted to do to kakashi had to wait. the priority is the jins.
and they tried to get naruto when he wasnt in the village like with deidara and kakuzu. its not like kakuzu is gonna be like "oh wait, its naruto. off limits guys, off limits".
and hidan is definitely going to ignore obitos orders.

and then continued to leave it alone, choosing instead to declare war on everyone.


because he doesnt want to lose himself a powerful subordinate moron

lol because he knew itachi wanted him dead. but he couldnt exactly publicly move on itachi, since that loses them the powerful subordinate they need to help seal the bijuus and further their ends
funny since i seem to remember obito laughing off itachis final assasination attempt and calling him a fail.
and for someone who kept his distance, he not only knew everything about itachi but also itachi spent enough time near him to rig a trap to react to obitos own sharingan. how could he if he barely ever even saw said sharingan in the last 10 or so years.
obito confirmed he was stronger than itachi.
he said "i kept a few secrets of my own. if i hadnt id be dead".
this means itachis only shot of killing him via surprise assasination was with full intel. he wasnt talking about face to face combat.

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