minato vs guy

[Bogard]

8 gated Gai(besides night guy) isn't that fast to begin with. He only has fast punches

 

[TheEvilOne]

8 gated Gai(besides night guy) isn't that fast to begin with. He only has fast punches

This. Nothing suggests he can keep up with Minato's speed, let alone with his FTG.

 

[Rufus ShinRa]

Minato all the way with med diff.....

 

[HNIC]

This. Nothing suggests he can keep up with Minato's speed, let alone with his FTG.

I hate when people say such things. Minato's speed is incomparable, but it isn't unpredictable. That goes for ftg too, which Bee predicted twice, with no prior knowledge. Gai has superior hand speed. So no matter if Gai can't keep up with his foot speed, he'll be able to react to any physical attack Minato engages in.

Base Gai reacted to Obito's Kamui strategy. Minato used ftg.

 

[slimreaper]

That proved that a toss from a Gated Lee, who faster hand speed, had the ability to throw a kunia in place. A student knows his teacher, predicting his movements can easily be done.

Lee is credited for that, which is why Minato says " nice timing Lee" to think Minato would be able perform this feat exactly the same in 1-vs-1 is ridiculous.

minato had to teleport to the kunai. He can just preset them

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The feat has absolutely nothing to do with lee

 

[HNIC]

minato had to teleport to the kunai. He can just preset them

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The feat has absolutely nothing to do with lee

"Preset" is key.

Lee performed this ability during the actual fight. Those "preset" kunia can be removed.

 

[slimreaper]

"Preset" is key.

Lee performed this ability during the actual fight. Those "preset" kunia can be removed.

you know about hirashin level 2 right? you know who invented that right?

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minato didn't do it himself because he doesn't have arms

 

[HNIC]

you know about hirashin level 2 right? you know who invented that right?

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minato didn't do it himself because he doesn't have arms

I'm trying to understand your point?

1) that toss wouldn't have intercepted Gai in that form.
2) Those are two completely different situations. Gai would have deflected the Kunia, while Obito become intangible.

 

[slimreaper]

I'm trying to understand your point?

1) that toss wouldn't have intercepted Gai in that form.
2) Those are two completely different situations. Gai would have deflected the Kunia, while Obito become intangible.

the point being minato is provicient in using kunai while moving unlike lee. you saying only lee could throw the kunai the way he did is stupid

 

[Gold Lightning]

"Preset" is key.

Lee performed this ability during the actual fight. Those "preset" kunia can be removed.

Minato vs Ay was an actual fight, Minato just spread the kunai before Ay activated his lightning cloak. It wasn't like Minato's kunai were there before both confronted each other.

I don't even see the point of these arguments, is Gai faster than Ay? No so this is all pointless.

 

[HNIC]

the point being minato is provicient in using kunai while moving unlike lee. you saying only lee could throw the kunai the way he did is stupid

No, I'm saying Lee has the hand speed that Minato doesn't have to have thrown the kunia fast enough to intercept Gai. Lee has fast hand speed and was using Gates, his hand speed and reflexes at that point exceeds Minato hand speed. Also, you have to considerLee being Gai's student.

This is about Minato hand speed. Not his inability to perform that ability himself.

 

[HNIC]

Minato vs Ay was an actual fight, Minato just spread the kunai before Ay activated his lightning cloak. It wasn't like Minato's kunai were there before both confronted each other.

I don't even see the point of these arguments, is Gai faster than Ay? No so this is all pointless.

That's assuming an opponent would allow Minato to spread kunia. Ay or Bee had no prior knowledge, so didn't see the point of reacting to Minato drawing kunia in the first place. That's the point.

You have to consider the content of the fight too

 

[Gold Lightning]

No, I'm saying Lee has the hand speed that Minato doesn't have to have thrown the kunia fast enough to intercept Gai. Lee has fast hand speed and was using Gates, his hand speed and reflexes at that point exceeds Minato hand speed. Also, you have to considerLee being Gai's student.

This is about Minato hand speed. Not his inability to perform that ability himself.

Are you retarded, this has nothing to do with hand speed. Lee used strength to throw that kunai and intercept Gai. The stronger the throw, the faster it goes, what is all this hand speed nonsense, he aint weaving flippin hand signs.

 

[Bogard]

No, I'm saying Lee has the hand speed that Minato doesn't have to have thrown the kunia fast enough to intercept Gai. Lee has fast hand speed and was using Gates, his hand speed and reflexes at that point exceeds Minato hand speed. Also, you have to considerLee being Gai's student.

This is about Minato hand speed. Not his inability to perform that ability himself.

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[HNIC]

Are you retarded, this has nothing to do with hand speed. Lee used strength to throw that kunai and intercept Gai. The stronger the throw, the faster it goes, what is all this hand speed nonsense, he aint weaving flippin hand signs.

Speed, accuracy and strength, the toss timing had to be precise. The reason Minato commented on Lee's timing.

 

[LuckyMan]

Base Minato beats any form of Gai.

Also, using 8th Gate is suicide so Gai automatically loses, for everyone saying he will kill Minato with that transformation.

 

[Gold Lightning]

That's assuming an opponent would allow Minato to spread kunia. Ay or Bee had no prior knowledge, so didn't see the point of reacting to Minato drawing kunia in the first place. That's the point.

You have to consider the content of the fight too

They did have knowledge, Minato was famous for wiping out platoons with the same jutsu. In fact when Minato fisrt confronted Ay, one of the cloud ninja pointed out that judging by the kunai formula, it must be the yellow flash. Ay then used that knowledge to try to counter it later, not because he just learned about it, he already knew. It's just that Ay always likes to rush in and blitz his opponents.

 

[HNIC]

They did have knowledge, Minato was famous for wiping out platoons with the same jutsu. In fact when Minato fisrt confronted Ay, one of the cloud ninja pointed out that judging by the kunai formula, it must be the yellow flash. Ay then used that knowledge to try to counter it later, not because he just learned about it, he already knew. It's just that Ay always likes to rush in and blitz his opponents.

They knew he was fast, not ftg and his use of kunia. Re-read friend. Ay commented on this ability after seeing Minato use it.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Speed, accuracy and strength, the toss timing had to be precise. The reason Minato commented on Lee's timing.

I can have a weaker and slower throw than other people, but if my timing is superb then that becomes irrelevant, especially if it's to do with something involving targets - I could have the weakest and slowest throw in a group yet I'm the only one that hits the target. Accuracy is something genin already have, they learn to throw kunai from young age, accuracy shouldn't even be mentioned - if lee didn't have throwing accuracy then he really should give up being a ninja.

Nice timing just meant that Lee could have either thrown that kunai too early or too late. But Lee timed it perfectly, nothing more to it, you are overthinking it way too much.

 

[Gold Lightning]

They knew he was fast, not ftg and his use of kunia. Re-read friend. Ay commented on this ability after seeing Minato use it.

You re-read, the cloud ninja clearly said:

"on that yellow paper, it's the shunshin no jutsu! No doubt about it, it's the yellow flash".

Obviously that cloud ninja recognised that minato's kunai was the key to his teleportation jutsu. You realize kishi describes teleportation as speed in this manga, so of course they knew he was fast. The cloud ninja wouldn't mention "shunshin no jutsu" if he didn't know about the teleportation/FTG.