Establishing why no Sharingan Kakashi is stronger than Tsunade

[Bogard]

errm they are all sharingan kakashi, with no sharingan that makes chidori an incomplete jutsu also tsunade can survive any damage she receives in battle plus she has katsuya which i'm pretty sure trumps dogs and i wouldn't say he is smarter than tsunade as intellect is pretty hard to argue between two intelligent shinobi and if you go of databooks they both have 5 if i remember correctly

also not to rain on kakashi's skill or anything but kakashi would resort to sharingan in every battle he had so its hard to claim a no sharingan kakashi is just as good as sharingan kakashi

All his jutsus are perfectly usable. Only the aiming of Raikiri is imperfect due the impossibility to see the opponent counter-attack while running at high speed. But you don't need to aim with mid long range variants.

But he can keep it just for cuting attacks without high speed, and he has long range attacks like his lightning wolf for example requires no aim. His lightning transmission as well, same goes for his lightning katana, or lightning clone. Slugs are made of water. Katsuyu would be fodderised by any lightning attacks, making it a non-factor. Tsunade herself is helpless against his long range variants and due to the numbness created by lightning attacks, it's enough to create openings to decapitate her with ease

Kakashi also showed better battle tactics. Tsunade is intelligent in medecin areas

Many [if not all] of those feats include 3T kakashi.

I agree that he's stronger, but he needs his sharingan.

Not really. The hype i agree, but as for the feats i disagree. The manga pictures are only for the jutsus he can use even without Sharingan

 

[Joshutsu]

Says no sharingan kakashi is better. Shows feats with sharingan.

Her stating kakashi was simply to prove to jiraya there are other people who could do it as well as her. You guys try to push something you claim you know is fact yet you have to try to prove yourselves. :x

 

[Bogard]

Says no sharingan kakashi is better. Shows feats with sharingan.

Her stating kakashi was simply to prove to jiraya there are other people who could do it as well as her. You guys try to push something you claim you know is fact yet you have to try to prove yourselves. :x

Sharingan doesn't create jutsus. He can use all those jutsus with or without sharingan and he bested Kabuto without Sharingan in 2panels, same Kabuto who almost bested Tsunade

 

[Draphsin]

Not really. The hype i agree, but as for the feats i disagree. The manga pictures are only for the jutsus he can use even without Sharingan

Well considering tsunade's durability, if kakashi manages to hit byakugo tsunade with a raikiri then he is in a tough spot without it.

 

[iNotorious]

I heard that you can't use chidori without sharingan.

 

[Kurama2012]

All his jutsus are perfectly usable. Only the aiming of Raikiri is imperfect due the impossibility to see the opponent counter-attack while running at high speed. But you don't need to aim with mid long range variants. But he can keep it just for cuting attacks without high speed, and he has long range attacks like his lightning wolf for example requires no aim. His lightning transmission as well, same goes for his lightning katana, or lightning clone. Slugs are made of water. Katsuyu would be fodderised by any lightning attacks, making it a non-factor. Tsunade herself is helpless against his long range variants and due to the numbness created by lightning attacks, it's enough to create openings to decapitate her with ease

Kakashi also showed better battle tactics. Tsunade is intelligent in medecin areas

you can't fodderise katsuya this is a summon that was unaffected by narutos 6 to 8 tails transformation whose chakra is seen as a poison yet one small clone of katsuya survived so i doubt a lightning based attack will be enough

also tsunade has her mitotic regen so any damage she receives will be healed also this might be a long stretch yet she may have lighting style her self seeing how back in part one she was able to turn her own chakra to lightning plus tsunade can always close the gap by creating fissures in the ground which could make kakashi lose balance or change the scenery

and another thing if kakashi did take the risk with a raikiri she could either evade then strike with her full strength oh take the attack seeing how her regen will allow and attack from there

 

[-Punk-]

I heard that you can't use chidori without sharingan.

It don't matter , always Kakashi.

 

[Bogard]

Well considering tsunade's durability, if kakashi manages to hit byakugo tsunade with a raikiri then he is in a tough spot without it.

You mean her regeneration? He is in a bad spot if he stabs her only, but you're not forced to stab your opponent with a raikiri. It also have cuting effects [

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I heard that you can't use chidori without sharingan.

Kid Kakashi had no Sharingan when he used it on the Iwagakure fodders :| You can use it, but the aiming is imperfect when you run at high speed with the jutsu

 

[Kurama2012]

Sharingan doesn't create jutsus. He can use all those jutsus with or without sharingan and he bested Kabuto without Sharingan in 2panels, same Kabuto who almost bested Tsunade

but the fact is kakashi has built his style around the sharingan you take it away then he loses all sharingan benefits like not being to see attacks before they happen plus he will have one eye which will give him a blind spot

 

[Draphsin]

You mean her regeneration? He is in a bad spot if he stabs her only, but you're not forced to stab your opponent with a raikiri. It also have cuting effects [

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I guess it really depends on the info then because IC kakashi usually stabs with chidori [usually, not always]. But if he was aware of byakugo then he would probably go for the slash.

 

[Kurama2012]

You mean her regeneration? He is in a bad spot if he stabs her only, but you're not forced to stab your opponent with a raikiri. It also have cuting effects [

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Kid Kakashi had no Sharingan when he used it on the Iwagakure fodders :| You can use it, but the aiming is imperfect when you run at high speed with the jutsu

but in order for kakashi to cause such damage with raikiri he would need the speed to back it up as tsunade would be able to dodge or counter a close ranged attack like that also i wouldn't compare slashing an edo body to that of a living body as it appears edo bodys crumble to pretty much anything

and if katsuya is on the battlefield then she would be able to act fast enough to repair tsunade

 

[ShiroT]

if kakashi is stronger please tell me how he kills her in a fight? oh wait he cant lol tsunade kills kakashi without a sharingan. he's only quick way of killing her was kamui

 

[ShiroT]

You mean her regeneration? He is in a bad spot if he stabs her only, but you're not forced to stab your opponent with a raikiri. It also have cuting effects [

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Kid Kakashi had no Sharingan when he used it on the Iwagakure fodders :| You can use it, but the aiming is imperfect when you run at high speed with the jutsu

dude if they were to trade blows if kakashi went in for a slash who would come out on top?

 

[Kamui Sama]

Kakashi's taijutsu is underrated. He used to manhandle gai when they were young (obviously won't be the case now) and he is hyped to be >= in taijutsu compared to rock lee (in base). His speed feats in the war are also pretty impressive.

 

[blackstar9]

No sharingan kakashi over tsunade ?! Says the guy with rikudo kakashi in his avatar. I can't take this thread seriously.

 

[Joshutsu]

Sharingan doesn't create jutsus. He can use all those jutsus with or without sharingan and he bested Kabuto without Sharingan in 2panels, same Kabuto who almost bested Tsunade

Almost doesn't count especially on a rusty ninja who had not seen battle in over 20 years. He copied all those jutsu with sharingan besides his chidori and his summons i believe. Besides anything he could have copied are of no show. Everything else she can tank.

Kamui saves him from top 30.

 

[Stark]

You convinced me, & I didn't even see your name. Haven't seen you in a while.

 

[ShiroT]

Almost doesn't count especially on a rusty ninja who had not seen battle in over 20 years. He copied all those jutsu with sharingan besides his chidori and his summons i believe. Besides anything he could have copied are of no show. Everything else she can tank.

Kamui saves him from top 30.

exactly. his best move without sharingan is chidori which involves him getting close. tsunade tanks and smacks his brains out. kamui was his only real way of killing her and without it i dont see it happening

 

[Champ]

Damn, Kakashi really is a fodder when threads like this are made.

 

[SuperChief]

This is nonsense. Kakashi with Sharingan isn't stronger than Tsunade.