Clearing up why madara did susano'o eyeless

[Opiuchus05]

Indra used the susano'o to fight ashura

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tobirama said that hatred makes a special chakra sprout in a uchiha's brain which changes the eyes

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when sasuke was first using his mangekyou he did a genjutsu and in that genjutsu sasuke resembled the shadow silhouette of the sage

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in that same genjutsu a susano'o like creature was in the background

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and when sasuke first used his susanoo atsui said his chakra resembled that genjutsu

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obito said that a mangekyou that can awaken a susano'o is a rarity

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and madara said that both him and sasuke awakened a "straight comma

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the more hatred sasuke got the bigger his susano'o got;obito said his hatred has grown giving him power and his body responded to that

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and when sasuke is at his angriest his susano'o looks complete like itachi's

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but he uses that chakra too much and it causes him to go blind so he gets itach's ms making him have ems

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which itachi called "true" power

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madara said that he was senju and uchiha in one body

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come to find out it's not uchiha and senju but it's ashura and indra's chakra

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if madara said he's both senju and uchiha what makes him uchiha if he has no eyes?
susano'o isnt a doujutsu it's ashura's chakra that,when it sprouted in sasuke and madara's brain, changed their eyes but susano'o kept growing from their hatred and instead of their eyes changing more it went blind and is why they had to get another ms for ems
madara still has that chakra

 

[Grimm Of Death]

valid points

 

[Yuse]

nice theory i completely understand what your sayin and thx for backin it up with scans

 

[Flawž]

He didn't even have eyes in his socket, that's terrible writing.

 

[The Necromancer]

So can you use Chidori without hands?

Can you use a Fireball Jutsu without lungs?

 

[iNotorious]

He didn't even have eyes in his socket, that's terrible writing.

This right here folks.

OT: Can you make a comeback to KingFlawz's response?

 

[Tantalus Thief]

1. Indra did not use Susano we don't know. It looks more like Bijuu Mode. I'm guessing he is using some sort of chakra cloak, like Bijuu Mode except he doesn't need a Bijuu.

2. The whole Sage shadow thing is irrelevant. Kishi did that to show Sasuke's darkness when doing the genjutsu and he showed the Sage as a shadow to conceal his appearence.

You're not clearing it up just bringing up stuff. I think Madara can awaken chakra without eyes to make Susano.
3.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

So can you use Chidori without hands?

Can you use a Fireball Jutsu without lungs?

You need the eyes to aweaken it then you can use it without it since he has the chakra. Itachi used Susano and he had no mangekyo sharingan on his eyes.

 

[iNotorious]

You need the eyes to aweaken it then you can use it without it since he has the chakra. Itachi used Susano and he had no mangekyo sharingan on his eyes.

He had his eyes. Madara didn't have EYES.

 

[UCE]

He didn't even have eyes in his socket, that's terrible writing.

lol ^ what FLAWZ bro said tho.

 

[The Necromancer]

You need the eyes to aweaken it then you can use it without it since he has the chakra. Itachi used Susano and he had no mangekyo sharingan on his eyes.

The oldest argument in the book.

Susano'o causes eye strain.

Susano'o causes vision loss.

To believe Susano'o has no effect on or connection to the eyes is moronic.

You can use Chidori even if you've lost all feeling in your hands. You can't use it if you've lost your hand entirely. That's the point your trying to prove to me right now.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Interesting, but couldn't you just say his eyes, which were both in the vicinity at the time were still connected to him via the gidou rods in his body, like Pein?

 

[phantomlord22]

nice theory
good point

 

[God Of Destruction]

Interesting theory

 

[senjuBankai]

I have gotton used to it.!!

manga clearly states you need MS eyes to unlock susanoo.!

it says UNLOCK.!!

what does that word mean.??

once you unlock susanoo do you need to keep unlocking it over and over again.??

I would say NO.!!

susanoo is a doujutsu that require MS eyes to unlock but after unlock its not anyway connected to eyes, but you only require chakra to manifest it.!!

that MY Opinion.!!

 

[The Necromancer]

I have gotton used to it.!!

manga clearly states you need MS eyes to unlock susanoo.!

it says UNLOCK.!!

what does that word mean.??

once you unlock susanoo do you need to keep unlocking it over and over again.??

I would say NO.!!

susanoo is a doujutsu that require MS eyes to unlock but after unlock its not anyway connected to eyes, but you only require chakra to manifest it.!!

that MY Opinion.!!

If i had told you you could use Susano'o without eyeballs in your sockets the chapter before Madara did it, would you not have called me a ****ing idiot?

 

[iNotorious]

I have gotton used to it.!!

manga clearly states you need MS eyes to unlock susanoo.!

it says UNLOCK.!!

what does that word mean.??

once you unlock susanoo do you need to keep unlocking it over and over again.??

I would say NO.!!

susanoo is a doujutsu that require MS eyes to unlock but after unlock its not anyway connected to eyes, but you only require chakra to manifest it.!!

that MY Opinion.!!

By that logic then why do you need eyes to use the chidori because if you unlock it then it should be no problem right?

 

[SkyGodHorus]

1. Indra did not use Susano we don't know. It looks more like Bijuu Mode. I'm guessing he is using some sort of chakra cloak, like Bijuu Mode except he doesn't need a Bijuu.

What indra used was susano'o. It had the tengu nose, eyes, gem, horns and almost completely resembled Madara's perfect Susano'o.

 

[senjuBankai]

If i had told you you could use Susano'o without eyeballs in your sockets the chapter before Madara did it, would you not have called me a ****ing idiot?

actually, yes I would.!!

all I'm saying is there is a loophole in this, where you can make sense of it.!!

 

[The Necromancer]

actually, yes I would.!!

all I'm saying is there is a loophole in this, where you can make sense of it.!!

As a writer, you don't include elements that require in-depth analysis by some of the top readers (which the members here surely are) to decipher based on the smallest context hints in chapters released years ago, just to vaguely explain.

That's why it's BS, whether you can make sense of it or not. It's terrible writing.