[VS] Kakuzu vs Orochimaru

[Nattana]

Kakuzu can take this high diff.

Mind explaining how? I'm interested.

 

[Apêx1]

Mind explaining how? I'm interested.

I feel that both characters will have a great difficulty of winning merely due to the fact that both will struggle in killing each other's high durability characters. Enma and v2 Naruto have shown to resist being pierced by Oro's Kusanagi, and Domu has shown feats of tanking on par with the two. Oro, on the other hand, posses snake summons which may be difficult for Kakuzu to kill. Atsugai or a multiplied Gian could potentially lethally damage/pierce any snake summon.

Oro would have to close the distance to kill Kakuzu. Domu will stop him from dying even if the distance is closed. Even v2 could be helpful as it would prevent any attempts of Oral rebirth by putting tendrils inside Oro's neck. One may claim Sasuke and Kabuto have shown doing Oral rebirth in different places, but Oro is not the two of them, so it is doubtable as well. I would like to here your belief as to why Oro wins as easily as you say he does, I am open to changing my mind.

 

[Nattana]

I feel that both characters will have a great difficulty of winning merely due to the fact that both will struggle in killing each other's high durability characters. Enma and v2 Naruto have shown to resist being pierced by Oro's Kusanagi, and Domu has shown feats of tanking on par with the two. Oro, on the other hand, posses snake summons which may be difficult for Kakuzu to kill. Atsugai or a multiplied Gian could potentially lethally damage/pierce any snake summon.

Oro would have to close the distance to kill Kakuzu. Domu will stop him from dying even if the distance is closed. Even v2 could be helpful as it would prevent any attempts of Oral rebirth by putting tendrils inside Oro's neck. One may claim Sasuke and Kabuto have shown doing Oral rebirth in different places, but Oro is not the two of them, so it is doubtable as well. I would like to here your belief as to why Oro wins as easily as you say he does, I am open to changing my mind.

1. Orochimaru never really tried to pierce Enma, but he, who'd known Kusanagi before, was scared of it even in his Diamond Staff form. Also, iirc, Databook proves superiority of Kusanagi over things of less or equal durability than diamond. Domu gets pierced. And even if it didn't, Kakuzu making himself more durable, but also completely immobile, would be an easy target for Orochimaru to leech his chakra or use his Vanishing Facial Copy jutsu to remove Kakuzu's face and thereby kill him.

2. Gian is not a threat since it's so easy to dodge it that it's not even funny. Other elemental jutsu are useless as well, considering that we've already seen what for example point-blank fire jutsu to the face does to Orochimaru. It doesn't even get past his 1st layer of skin (I'll remind you here that this first layer of skin protecting Oro's body was strong enough to defend him from Kyuubiruto's claw to the face AND it's regenerated almost instantly without any hand seals or anything).

3. Tendrils are useless against Oro's Soft Physique.

4. Sasuke after absorbing Orochimaru never really trained with his jutsu yet he still managed to use it through his chest. Just because Orochimaru was never forced to cut his chest open to use it, doesn't mean he cannot. Especially that Orochimaru has already shown an ability to use his Replacement jutsu from his snake summons.

While I can agree on the fact that the fight would be quite long, the difficulty level for Orochimaru is not higher than mid diff.

 

[Lytes]

Orochimaru immortal wins

 

[Haizaki]

Its funny everyone restricts Edo Tensei in every Orochimaru thread because, they know he will beat anyone. He still wins this low difficulty.

Quit complaining about ET...Madara broke through and if I'm correct, Hashi couldn't be controlled. .so how is it a 1 on 1

OT: Oro takes this Med diff

 

[eagle8]

oro wins high diff.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Kakuzu mid-high difficulty.

Current Orochimaru does not possess his Kusanagi, which was burned by Amaterasu caused by Itachi. That being said, Orochimaru has no means to breach his defense of Domu. Kakuzu even without intel, never starts with hearts out so they would not be vulnerable. As long as Orochimaru does not have means to breach his defense, it all comes down to CQC battle with Kakuzu where he becomes victorious due to infinite stamina.​

 

[Conspirator.]

I believe kakuzu wins high difficulty.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Kakuzu mid-high difficulty.

Current Orochimaru does not possess his Kusanagi, which was burned by Amaterasu caused by Itachi. That being said, Orochimaru has no means to breach his defense of Domu. Kakuzu even without intel, never starts with hearts out so they would not be vulnerable. As long as Orochimaru does not have means to breach his defense, it all comes down to CQC battle with Kakuzu where he becomes victorious due to infinite stamina.​

Orochimaru is still able to seal his chakra, which subsequently deactivates Domu.

 

[HiddenSound]

Can he counter Yamata no Orochi?

 

[DMT]

Oro Mid-high diff.

 

[DMT]

Can he counter Yamata no Orochi?

No sir, he can't

 

[TheEvilOne]

The kusanagi pierced even Enma's body so the Domu isn't stopping it.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Can he counter Yamata no Orochi?

Not even required, honestly.

 

[Red Slayer]

Oro wins mid diff

 

[Apêx1]

1. Orochimaru never really tried to pierce Enma, but he, who'd known Kusanagi before, was scared of it even in his Diamond Staff form. Also, iirc, Databook proves superiority of Kusanagi over things of less or equal durability than diamond. Domu gets pierced. And even if it didn't, Kakuzu making himself more durable, but also completely immobile, would be an easy target for Orochimaru to leech his chakra or use his Vanishing Facial Copy jutsu to remove Kakuzu's face and thereby kill him.

2. Gian is not a threat since it's so easy to dodge it that it's not even funny. Other elemental jutsu are useless as well, considering that we've already seen what for example point-blank fire jutsu to the face does to Orochimaru. It doesn't even get past his 1st layer of skin (I'll remind you here that this first layer of skin protecting Oro's body was strong enough to defend him from Kyuubiruto's claw to the face AND it's regenerated almost instantly without any hand seals or anything).

3. Tendrils are useless against Oro's Soft Physique.

4. Sasuke after absorbing Orochimaru never really trained with his jutsu yet he still managed to use it through his chest. Just because Orochimaru was never forced to cut his chest open to use it, doesn't mean he cannot. Especially that Orochimaru has already shown an ability to use his Replacement jutsu from his snake summons.

While I can agree on the fact that the fight would be quite long, the difficulty level for Orochimaru is not higher than mid diff.

I disagree. Nothing suggests Kusanagi would have pierced Enma. Domu shouldn't have much difficulty in stopping it. Oh? Kakuzu doesn't go completely immobile when using domu. That is the DB speaking of his full body Domu. Him only using Domu on where he is being struck would allow him to move all other body parts as easily as he would normally. Vanishing facial copy jutsu has never been shown in a fight, thus none of its characteristics are known i.e. prep. And chakra leech? The one he used to absorb his own chakra back?

2. Gian is slow? lol..

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Databook clearly disagrees and speaks highly of its killing power and speed. The claw of v2 Naruto doesn't even begin to compare with piercing capabilities that can gouge rock. Are you trying to claim Oro's piercing durability is more than that of a rock?

3. soft physique won't help him from getting completely enveloped by tendrils to the point where he is immobile. They have already shown to easily pierce human skin and flesh, it shouldn't have any difficulty piercing Oro from where his chest and neck intersect.

4. That is a definite assumption. We had no screen time of Sasuke and cannot say said person didn't do it because he wasn't shown to do anything on a panel. When was this? The part 1 Snake in which Oro had popped of up from was not Oral rebirth, nor is there any indication implying so.

Fight would be quite long, and Kakuzu would end up winning high diff. Oh, and now that I read UchihaNagashi's comment, I do recall Oro's Kusanagi sword having been burned down by amateratsu. This means Kakuzu can just kick him around with Domu with 0 chance of ever being damaged. He may not even need to use Domu half the time.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

The Kusanagi blade was burnt with Amaterasu? Last I recall the final time we saw it was when Orochimaru was sealed. Maybe I am missing the scan, but would someone mind sending me it, if that did indeed happen?

 

[HiddenSound]

The Kusanagi blade was burnt with Amaterasu? Last I recall the final time we saw it was when Orochimaru was sealed. Maybe I am missing the scan, but would someone mind sending me it, if that did indeed happen?

I don't remember that happening either...

 

[Zexion~]

Oh lawd? I may be a bit rusty but im up to argue or even debate this? Don't want to but in on you guy's already existent arguments


Anyways for all of you counting on oro's body replacement jutsu. Please realize that the description of the DB states that the new body is made and created from the cells and remnants of the old one. So if the old body was to have its heart ripped out or even another vital organ. How would he come about creating a new one with the existing one already gone? Granted Oro is a slippery opponent and would be hard to grasp with his threads but Kakuzu surly has a way of putting him down. Combined with the numbers advantage Kakuzu's hearts gives him and the elemental barrage that Oro is surly not going to just stand there and take the hit from such powerful jutsu

Kakuzu wins this.

Dont even bring up summons >.< So overrated

 

[UchihaNagashi]

The Kusanagi blade was burnt with Amaterasu? Last I recall the final time we saw it was when Orochimaru was sealed. Maybe I am missing the scan, but would someone mind sending me it, if that did indeed happen?

I don't remember that happening either...

Kusanagi that Orochimaru wields, is a special sword that can change both to snake and a sword - you may have noticed that already. While fighting Itachi, after sealed, the snake was extracted from Orochimaru and tragically after a small forest fire caused by Amaterasu it burned and even if teleported, it was destroyed [

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]. Shortly saying, it's 'dead'.​