Looked at Hiruzen's DB score.

[Mad Daz]

I think the hiruzen fans are confused. We are asking for actual feats that show him being the absolute strongest hokage, not random reasons as to why you like him, because thats all im seeing. As awesome as hiruzen is, kishi took that hype he gave him right back.

 

[Jimihendrix]

and maybe kishimoto was talking in terms of being a ninja, you know, mastering all ninjutsu and whatnot. Most of you guys are so single-minded.

Don't counter this with shisui's definition of what a ninja is, that's shisui's, not the omniscient narrator that stated Hiruzen was "the strongest amongst them."

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

I think the hiruzen fans are confused. We are asking for actual feats that show him being the absolute strongest hokage, not random reasons as to why you like him, because thats all im seeing. As awesome as hiruzen is, kishi took that hype he gave him right back.

That's like asking for feats on why Hagoromo was strong, or why Kaguya was strong.

Kishimoto supported and expanded on Hiruzen's hype.

 

[CloudWalker]

That's like asking for feats on why Hagoromo was strong, or why Kaguya was strong.

Kishimoto supported and expanded on Hiruzen's hype.

This. Thank you my friend. Hiruzen haters need to realize Kaguya and the Sage or his Brother have no feats as well, just mere hype from stories they or others told about them. The Hype is strong! (Hiruzen 5 Leggo)

 

[ShiroT]

He used all five elements at once with clones no less to counter the five given off by the mokuton statue. Mokuton is a not a "fodder" technique. It is Hashirama's kekkei Genki with the attributes of the shinju. And it is unknown who is behind the spiral zetsu mask.



Regardless, they were still using their kage techniques and he fought them together with Orchimaru. And it is not stated they were "at a fraction of their power."

Thank you for making my point. Hashirama is stronger than Tobirama and Hiruzen overcame his genjutsu.

dude honestly . . . .anybody with a brain could see that the edo 1st and 2nd hokages that fought the 3rd were piss poor ninjas and saying hashirama is this powerful person because he won isnt saying much. We saw what hashirama can do especially in his fight with madara, hiruzen has no known counter for hashi and wouldve got stomped

 

[ShiroT]

This. Thank you my friend. Hiruzen haters need to realize Kaguya and the Sage or his Brother have no feats as well, just mere hype from stories they or others told about them. The Hype is strong! (Hiruzen 5 Leggo)

are you saying creation of all things, the black spheres, rinnegan, and juubi jin are feat less?
or what about having a byakugan and a sharingan? also maybe controlling lightning

lmao they have feats but hiruzen . . . .meh

 

[Sir Blades]

The Hype is real, there is nothing to it. JUST BELIEVE.

 

[Prime Hiruzen]

The hype is real! Start believing! Believe in the hype!

 

[TobisPawn]

tl;dr

Hashirama's strength was clearly retconned. Hashirama >> Hiruzen, and EMS Madara >> Hiruzen.

 

[voids]

The hype is real! Start believing! Believe in the hype!

That sig of yours disturbs me :hyper: ​

 

[ajpn920]

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Since we're bring up Databooks here....

Looks like this soloed the thread though I still believe that Hiruzen shits on the current Kages.

 

[Zorø]

Looks good bro............