Looked at Hiruzen's DB score.

Flakez · Apr 26, 2014

SkyGodHorus said:
I find this funny, considering I believe it was you once upon a time who linked the first Edo Hashirama's mokuton forest, calling it masterful and complete compared to Yamato's whom you classified as plank wood. You are only further contradicting yourself.

I never said such things.

looks like this conversation is pointless.

shelke · Apr 26, 2014

This has turned into quite the fight. Calm down, guys.

startup97 · Apr 26, 2014

Believe in the Hype!

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Iruka, Ch.94
「三代目は　特に歴代の中でも最強�� 言われポロフェッサーと呼ばれた�� だったんだぞ！」
"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".

the Sandaime was the strongest.

Databook 1, Page 117
"プロフェッサー"と崇められる歴�� 最強の火影

The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.

Databook 1, Page 119
"歴代最強""天才"など,三代目火影�� 形容する言葉はに満ちている.

"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.

DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
歴代最強の火影と謳われた、三代目�� 血を継ぐ木ノ葉丸。“木ノ葉崩し�� より敬愛する祖父を失い、その�� は悲しみに覆われる。だが必ずや里を�� る大樹に成長するであろう。果て�� 標の祖父を目指して・・・！！Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

Chuggs · Apr 26, 2014

Fodderuzen is trash.

Stark · Apr 26, 2014

Third said:
Believe in the Hype!

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Iruka, Ch.94
「三代目は　特に歴代の中でも最強�� 言われポロフェッサーと呼ばれた�� だったんだぞ！」
"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".

the Sandaime was the strongest.

Databook 1, Page 117
"プロフェッサー"と崇められる歴�� 最強の火影

The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.

Databook 1, Page 119
"歴代最強""天才"など,三代目火影�� 形容する言葉はに満ちている.

"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.

DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
歴代最強の火影と謳われた、三代目�� 血を継ぐ木ノ葉丸。“木ノ葉崩し�� より敬愛する祖父を失い、その�� は悲しみに覆われる。だが必ずや里を�� る大樹に成長するであろう。果て�� 標の祖父を目指して・・・！！Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

Even with scans provided above they will still deny it cause they can't handle the truth. They can't fight what they can't prove.

Solaris Vexius · Apr 26, 2014

Most people can't explain why Prime Hiruzen is not top 10. You guys are either idiots or haters.

Its sasukebase · Apr 26, 2014

FlashReturns said:
I said name 15 feats that compare to Hiruzens feats without mentioning Hashirama, Madara, Obito, Naruto, or Sasuke. You did not...The lack of comprehension on this site is amazing.

Itachi loses to the Oro that fought Hiruzen with those Edos. Edo Hashirama at that time puts him under Bringer of Darkness which Itachi has no counter for a genjutsu of that rank.

Im not sure if Bee could have even transformed with the amount of space given at that time. And Hashiramas Wood Jutsu could potentially suppress an inferior beast in the form of Gyuuki. Dont act like Killer Bee TBB is even remotely close to Narutos...

Gai has nothing that is killing Oro or sealing the Edos with 7th Gate alone.

Anyways, you are comparing those to Old Hiruzen and only attempted some half thought out statement saying Itachi could have replicated the same thing as Edo Hiruzen against the statue.

itachi beats any oro shringan genjustu. fight is over before it starts and oro runs again. the endo kage were fodder that why the got beat by fodder hiruzen
itachi feats

Amaterasu
tysukiomi
susanoo
sprite weapons
shuriken justu
fastest hand can even see it
solo his caln with help
fodderize kakashi
figured out weakness to chibaku tensei and countered it with help
seal nagato nagato
solo oro
izanami
izanagi
smart as a hokage at age 7
youngest anbu captain age 13

bee solo he doesnt have to transform compleatly to do tbb

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all tailed beast bombs are capable of destroying a mountains mina buddha is wiped of the map

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feats
beat taka pretty easily
can fire rapid fire tbb
prefect jinjurikin can transform parts of his body
can go toe to toe with kisame
can fight against the juubi
destroy a whole forest just by spinning
tanked a tbb
countered minato ftg
all i can can thin of but he still beats them

startup97 · Apr 26, 2014

How are these elements considered "weak" They are A rank or higher!

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Chuggs · Apr 26, 2014

Solaris Vexius said:
Most people can't explain why Prime Hiruzen is not top 10. You guys are either idiots or haters.

Hiruzen is top 1, Idk why the guy has so many haters when there's tons of feats and manga facts proving he's the strongest.
... Oh wait there's none of that.

startup97 · Apr 26, 2014

Its sasukebase said:
itachi beats any oro shringan genjustu. fight is over before it starts and oro runs again. the endo kage were fodder that why the got beat by fodder hiruzen
itachi feats

Amaterasu
tysukiomi
susanoo
sprite weapons
shuriken justu
fastest hand can even see it
solo his caln with help
fodderize kakashi
figured out weakness to chibaku tensei and countered it with help
seal nagato nagato
solo oro
izanami
izanagi
smart as a hokage at age 7
youngest anbu captain age 13

bee solo he doesnt have to transform compleatly to do tbb

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all tailed beast bombs are capable of destroying a mountains mina buddha is wiped of the map

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feats
beat taka pretty easily
can fire rapid fire tbb
prefect jinjurikin can transform parts of his body
can go toe to toe with kisame
can fight against the juubi
destroy a whole forest just by spinning
tanked a tbb
countered minato ftg
all i can can thin of but he still beats them

Itachi respects Hiruzen's power, that should be enough.

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FlashReturns · Apr 26, 2014

Its sasukebase said:
itachi beats any oro shringan genjustu. fight is over before it starts and oro runs again. the endo kage were fodder that why the got beat by fodder hiruzen
itachi feats

Amaterasu
tysukiomi
susanoo
sprite weapons
shuriken justu
fastest hand can even see it
solo his caln with help
fodderize kakashi
figured out weakness to chibaku tensei and countered it with help
seal nagato nagato
solo oro
izanami
izanagi
smart as a hokage at age 7
youngest anbu captain age 13

bee solo he doesnt have to transform compleatly to do tbb

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all tailed beast bombs are capable of destroying a mountains mina buddha is wiped of the map

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feats
beat taka pretty easily
can fire rapid fire tbb
prefect jinjurikin can transform parts of his body
can go toe to toe with kisame
can fight against the juubi
destroy a whole forest just by spinning
tanked a tbb
countered minato ftg
all i can can thin of but he still beats them

The lack of comprehension still amazes me. What you listed for Itachi are not all feats...Half of them are just jutsus, the other half arent even top 20 feats in the Narutoverse.
Because you dont know what a feat is, here is the definition- An achievement that requires great courage, skill, or strength.

Mini Buddha is not being destroyed by a single TBB or even a few from Gyuuki...The Full Buddha took multiple Susanoo Infused TBB from full power Kurama.

Im still waiting for 15 feats that compare to Hiruzen defending the 5 Kage from the Buddha...If you think Bee defeating Taka as a feat compares then you are hopeless. You havent named a single feat that compares to Hiruzens. You are choosing minuscule feats from the Narutoverse.

Rainbow Dash · Apr 26, 2014

100% legit

Trollasaur · Apr 26, 2014

Golf thread

ComplexCity · Apr 26, 2014

RikerSalad said:
This gay ass shit again.

Couldn't have said it better myself

Stop making Hiruzen threads

The fodder isn't getting any feats

voids · Apr 26, 2014

Kibouu said:
Couldn't have said it better myself

Stop making Hiruzen threads

The fodder isn't getting any feats

I'm sorry for annoying you.

ComplexCity · Apr 26, 2014

voids said:
I'm sorry for annoying you.

Wow you made me sound like a douche Lol

It's just annoying, Hiruzen isn't top and he never will be, don't know why his fapbase (not you) thinks otherwise

voids · Apr 26, 2014

Kibouu said:
Wow you made me sound like a douche Lol

It's just annoying, Hiruzen isn't top and he never will be, don't know why his fapbase (not you) thinks otherwise

Don't worry you aren't, there have been a lot of Hiruzen threads in recent months, I suppose I just added what has already been said multiple times

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Yuse · Apr 26, 2014

they should make a filler to tell and explain his power as a youthful hokage

SkyGodHorus · Apr 27, 2014

Intrepid said:
Even with scans provided above they will still deny it cause they can't handle the truth. They can't fight what they can't prove.

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SuperChief · Apr 27, 2014

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Since we're bring up Databooks here....

This is disingenuous for numerous reasons.

Hiruzen is quoted to have said that, it is not outright stated by Kishimoto - who has numerously stated in and outside of data books that Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage ever
Hiruzen is referring to Orochimaru's talent - which is something that does not always goes fully realised; he could have easily meant that Orochimaru was capable of surpassing him
We don't know if Hiruzen is referring to his power in his old age or that of his prime - the latter would be an odd intention to convey given the structure of the sentence
The quotation marks are there for a reason: what characters say and think aren't necessarily true

Prime Hiruzen > Hashirama. It's a fact. Deal with it.

Looked at Hiruzen's DB score.

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