I'm glad Kakashi lost his Sharingan.

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I don't see what's so bad about Naruto taking elements from DBZ and HxH. If they're both good shows, then why not use their best qualities in Naruto?

I know many might disagree due to preference, but I like Part 2 infinitely better than part 1. The only reason I even stuck with reading Part 1 was because I began reading when Shippuden started and wanted to find out the identity of the Akatsuki leader.

Part 1 Naruto to me was horrid compared to part 2. The story, the characters, and the jutsu were all meh. It only got interesting for me once the Akatsuki arrived and the stakes got higher.


But that's just my personal opinion.


As for Kakashi losing his eye, I hope this will be the chance for Obito to shine and show off his true Uchiha power.
 
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So having a completely different function counts as slightly tweaked? Sounds legit. :rolleyes: Face it, you just think that just because on appearance it's a rip-off.


By your horrendous logic Archer from fate/stay night....

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....... Is a rip-off of Edward Elric from fullmetal alchemist.......

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...... just because they have similar cloths even though in personality, roles, and abilities, they're completely different.

I dont know those two characters so your point is invalid.
Just accept it, Naruto is not original, it is a culmination of hxh a dash of DBZ and 90% or Japanese mythology put in to a modern story.
Pretty sure i just /post

I'm going now, i have class. I'll be back in 3 hours. :cool:


OH AND KAANT, IF YOU NEED HELP WITH THE THREAD VM ME SO I CAN PUT FORTH THE INFORMATION. I have both Naruto and HXH mangas.
 

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I don't see what's so bad about Naruto taking elements from DBZ and HxH. If they're both good shows, then why not use their best qualities in Naruto?

I know many might disagree due to preference, but I like Part 2 infinitely better than part 1. The only reason I even stuck with reading Part 1 was because I began reading when Shippuden started and wanted to find out the identity of the Akatsuki leader.

Part 1 Naruto to me was horrid compared to part 2. The story, the characters, and the jutsu were all meh. It only got interesting for me once the Akatsuki arrived and the stakes got higher.


But that's just my personal opinion.


As for Kakashi losing his eye, I hope this will be the chance for Obito to shine and show off his true Uchiha power.

I respect your opinion more than most. I like part one because it doesn't try to be something it's not: A Shinobi manga; where Shinobi do Shinobi things. Part two is DBZ influenced and that annoys me. Makes me feel like every moment I think about Naruto is a big waste of time.
 

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I actually saw that video last week. I came to it by my own conclusion, but I agree wholeheartedly. He's right. The whole "child of prophecy" killed Naruto's character, and introduced his Uzumaki bloodline.

to some extent i get where he and other like minded people come from, but i don't think this whole prophecy thing took that much away from naruto as he never acknowledges that the prophecy is him so what naruto does as far as he is concerned is what he wants to do and what he wants to do is put a stop to the madness that these ninja are doing
 

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I dont know those two characters so your point is invalid.
Just accept it, Naruto is not original, it is a culmination of hxh a dash of DBZ and 90% or Japanese mythology put in to a modern story.
Pretty sure i just /post

I'm going now, i have class. I'll be back in 3 hours. :cool:


OH AND KAANT, IF YOU NEED HELP WITH THE THREAD VM ME SO I CAN PUT FORTH THE INFORMATION. I have both Naruto and HXH mangas.


How unfortunate for you that it is original, any element from either is minor, you grasp at straws and only look on the surface, and you ignore all logic when comparing ransenshuriken to destructo disk.
 

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to some extent i get where he and other like minded people come from, but i don't think this whole prophecy thing took that much away from naruto as he never acknowledges that the prophecy is him so what naruto does as far as he is concerned is what he wants to do and what he wants to do is put a stop to the madness that these ninja are doing

He makes a far better argument than me. Plus in far too tired to go into it.
 

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I respect your opinion more than most. I like part one because it doesn't try to be something it's not: A Shinobi manga; where Shinobi do Shinobi things. Part two is DBZ influenced and that annoys me. Makes me feel like every moment I think about Naruto is a big waste of time.

Well I'm glad you respect mine as I do yours as well. I suppose it's just hard for me to comprehend the appeal of part 1 over part 2. Sure it had more "shinobi" aspects but that doesn't necessarily make it more exciting.

For me, I like having a touch of epicness and grand-scaled battles in the manga.

Besides, ever since we saw Naruto use the 2 tails, it was evident that the power-scaling would only hit the roof once he reached 9 tails form. I can't think of a way to not have power-scaling and not have Naruto be invincible at that point.

To balance all characters out, Kishi needed to make the jutsu bigger and scaling more equal for everyone which is why we see Perfect Susanoo, Juubi, etc. so that Naruto can still have someone to challenge him once he mastered the Kyuubi power.

It's kind of like the same dilemma with Superman. The problem was from the start and they needed to compromise.
 

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He makes a far better argument than me. Plus in far too tired to go into it.

i know, i've watched his video but the problem with KOL is that he has to act like a douche and takes his opinions as facts. as a reviewer he should look at things objectively and not always bring in personal feelings, like this guy will bash obito and sakura anytime they show up and if he can he will brush over them or just blank them and the way he mocks characters like naruto you can't blame the naruto fans for bashing the way that they do

KOL can hate or like any characters he wants but when reviewing he should lay of mocking characters to the level that he does as it comes of as bashing rather than reviewing
 

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That is not the only thing, Netero's 100- Type buddha technique influenced Hashirama's Buddha statue technique.
The chuunin exams are a rip off the hunter exams, even by the team, written evaluation and quests they have to complete to become a hunter/chuunin.
Killua lighting affinity influence Sasuke's lightning affinity.
Killua's Godspeed form is a carbon copy of the Raikage's lighting armor.
The Phantom troupe is basically the Akatsuki organization.
Hisoka and Orochimaru are extremely similar, that is why I like those two characters.
Netero being the director of the Hunter association is basically Hiruzen being the Hokage of part one.
Killua and Illumi's relationship is like Sasuke's and Itachi's relationship in part one. Illumi plays with killua's emotions and makes him hate Illumi.
The list goes on an on. You just dont want to see it lol
Kishi admits being influenced by his mentor, which happens to be Togashi the creator of Hunter x Hunter.


1. Actually, Naruto abilities are based off of Japanese mysticism and buddism (6 paths. Someone made a thread about this). The true thousand hands statue is based off of something from buddism.





2.Well, one part is similar. That's pretty much the extent of it.


3. .........:| And they don't use it in a similar way at all. Weak.

4. Yeah, this much, I noticed.

5. (insert laughing gif here) You've got a few screw loose if you think they're anything alike. Phantom troop=gang. Akatsuki= pawns of an evil mastermind looking to complete a plan.


6. Yeah, um, tell me when you find Hisoka acting like a mad scientist searching to obtain all there is. Hisoka=psychopathic killer that strengthens people in order to kill him. Orochimaru=mad scientist searching for all that is and strengthens people as a mere experiment.


7. Gee, guess Head Captain Yamamoto from Bleach is a rip-off to. (facepalm)

8. Maybe you got too far for me to catch up, but from what I remember, Illumi just wanted to make Killula the ultimate assasin, and Killula just resists him. Itachi on the other hand, is nothing like that. Their relationship is completely different.



Given your list as it is, anything you'll bring up is very shallow. It takes more than a similarity to make something a rip-off. It needs to be a copy, and like it or not, there's virtually nothing in Naruto that's a copy. There might be some inspirations, but Kishimoto obviously made his own thing. Please explain the following.


Lee and Guy including the 8 gates. (you'll probably use that kid that Gon and Killula trained in nen with, but no. Lee's all about no talent, that kid was talented. Lee is about self-rule, saw nothing about that kid)


The Hyuga clan.


Sound 4.

Tsunade (do not bring up Bisky. No similarities in personality or abilities. Just that they're both blond and have a hidden...... unpleasant form.)


Any individual Akatsuki member

Pain

Madara and Obito

Naruto conquering hatred (which few, if any shonen characters intentionally struggle with)

Naruto having to fight Sasuke, his best friend

Ohnoiki

Zabuza and Haku



The Naruto manga is independent of your precious hunter x hunter. Most similarities are shallow, and if there are any, go in a completely different direction, which makes it original in its own right. Naruto's great because of its own ideas, not those from other mangas.
 

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As strong as Kamui may be, it is not without it's weaknesses.

Kakashi starts the fight with Kamui.
Naruto/Hashirama/Itachi/etc start the fight with clones.

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Good luck with that Kamui snipe. :rolleyes:

This and any surprise attacks. Hence why Obito himself had to use Izanagi twice and lost his arm twice as well. :/ If the kamui user hasn't already warped himself away before the attack lands (or warping away the attack itself), it isn't going to end well for them.

ot: Kamui isn't unstoppable, it's weaknesses can be exploited...however, it is one of the few OP techs. I am a Kakashi fan as well, but I think it would have been better for him to have died during the Pain arc than having illogical kamui spam during the war. But at least he'll never use sharingan again...unless Obito somehow gives him his. But that would be pointless, because Kakashi would just burn that one out too. I'm glad he no longer has it and hope he never gets it again.
 

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The hate for Naruto is never justified. And there's a nuance in inspiration and emulating (copying). Pretty sure that warrants a copyright litigation.
 

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What a coincidence. My friend has been pushing me to read hxh for a while. May just give it chance now.
 

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Kishi copied from HxH ? Lmfao !!
 

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He will get a better eye if not that one again.
 

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well I never thought that getting sharingan from kakashi would be so easy for madara!
 

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Time for kakashi to use his other godly techniques like mud wall, hide in ground jutsu and thousand years of kakashi
 

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It is too late for ninja to be ninja, 2 most important characters have Godly powers because reincarnation and a pep talk. You know what? Even before that they were spoonfed and asspulled.
 
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