My take on Kakashi Hatake

[Royal Uchiha]

Hey guys

Today I'll be taking on Kakashi Hatake without the Sharengan, it seems many people here see him as a Low Jounin, this is one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard (some will agree, some won't), I'll try to explain as detailed as possible.

First of all I want to say his knowledge of dozens of Jutsu's, while in Sharengan mode he copied a thousand of Jutsu's, I don't see any Jounin at all that can use such an amount of Jutsu's.

Proof:

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The second thing I want to say is his Sharengan that played a big factor on his bad stamina and chakra reserve, so without his Sharengan this will be way better though he was using his Sharengan for 3 days in the war.

Besides this, he's been stated as the number 1 tactician by Gai, though Gai isn't one of the smartest he wouldn't make up things.

In terms of Taijutsu he has been sparring with Gai for many years, Gai is one of the best in this aspect so he probably has increased his Taijutsu skills. (as seen agianst Itachi who had to use Genjutsu to get rid of him)

Kakashi became a Jounin on an age of 11 without the Sharengan, so don't tell me he didn't improve at all in this 10 years.

I will add more feats and scans when I'm home, hope this will do it for now.

Kind regards

 

[Mypower]

These threads don't even matter everybody knows he's getting his back or Obito's eye

 

[Cauzing]

I don't think he can use all those copied jutsus anymore as they are "saved" in the sharingan. I THINK.
Otherwise it's true. Kakashi is still a mid to high jonin

 

[Raikage23]

i think kakashi will get either his eye back or obitos other eye. Cant leave him hangin like that

 

[MorphyRulez]

Jonins are useless :| There are already many op Characters, Bloodline, Jutsu over here. He would be in top30 maybe. Even Darui is better option imo. Since He needs Sharingan to use perfect, Chidori/Raikiri. w/o sharingan he can't keep up with the speed as Minato said. And 1000 Jutsu is nothign %80 - 90 of them fodder jutsu. I mean simple Katon or Henge is a jutsu too. I really love Kakashi but, w/o Sharingan he's just lower version of Shikaku or Shikamaru in term of tactician.

 

[Royal Uchiha]

I don't think he can use all those copied jutsus anymore as they are "saved" in the sharingan. I THINK.
Otherwise it's true. Kakashi is still a mid to high jonin

This probably won't be proven but I haven't seen other Uchiha's copying Jutsu's besides Sasuke (only copied Lee's) and Kakashi, from what I understood from the Zabuza part is that Sharengan only sees the movements of the opponent very quickly you still need a decent memory.

 

[Tobi98]

He was Jonin when he was 11, has tons of Jutsus and has 34,5 in the DB (those are only the Base Stats), he's still Kage Level (probably Low Kage Level)

 

[Royal Uchiha]

Jonins are useless :| There are already many op Characters, Bloodline, Jutsu over here. He would be in top30 maybe. Even Darui is better option imo. Since He needs Sharingan to use perfect, Chidori/Raikiri. w/o sharingan he can't keep up with the speed as Minato said. And 1000 Jutsu is nothign %80 - 90 of them fodder jutsu. I mean simple Katon or Henge is a jutsu too. I really love Kakashi but, w/o Sharingan he's just lower version of Shikaku or Shikamaru in term of tactician.

I kind of agree, though Kakashi most of the times makes his estimates without using his Sharingan. In my opinion he would be better off if he didn't get Obito's Sharingan, he became Chuunin at an age of 6 whilst Sasuke and Naruto were struggling on their 12-13.

 

[YellowFang]

That's not necessary...
Kakashi's a High Jonin even without Sharingan, and later on he's going to get Obito's other eye...