[Discussion] Ichigo(before royal training) vs sternritter..

[illidanson]

Lol what did you put hitsugiya above Byakuya lol you have gone crazy right now he's clearly stronger than hitsugiya after zero squad meeting..an even before that he was stronger an he did not struggle with the 7 espada as much as hitsugiya struggle with halibel..that espada had nothing on Byakuya lol.an the only reason hitsugiya stood a chance in that fight is cuz her powers complemented his powers.....anyway that's not the topic thoe lol.

An hitsugiya said that VL are above any captian I believe...so halibel should have been way stronger than what she was.

Damn! It's kotoamatsukami!

I'm out of here, I don't wanna waste time arguing with someone as stupid as you!!!

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Damn! It's kotoamatsukami!

I'm out of here, I don't wanna waste time arguing with someone as stupid as you!!!

Yea u lose don't ever say hitsugiya is stronger than Byakuya you sound dumb.

 

[illidanson]

Yea u lose don't ever say hitsugiya is stronger than Byakuya you sound dumb.

Says the dumbest guy on the base!!! xD

But just to make it clear: It's obvious that Byakuya is currently much stronger than Hitsugaya, that wasn't what I was trying to say.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Says the dumbest guy on the base!!! xD

But just to make it clear: It's obvious that Byakuya is currently much stronger than Hitsugaya, that wasn't what I was trying to say.

Even during the fkt arc Byakuya was stronger than hitsugiya but not by that much.

 

[illidanson]

Even during the fkt arc Byakuya was stronger than hitsugiya but not by that much.

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No, he wasn't. There's a huge gap in power between Espada 1-4 and the rest, and Byakuya only fought number 7. And Ichigo who beat Byakuya barely beat number 6, couldn't keep up with 1st resurrection Ulquiorra and got stomped when he went 2nd ressurection, until he went full hollow. But honestly I still don't want to discuss with you, it's simply not worth my time.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

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No, he wasn't. There's a huge gap in power between Espada 1-4 and the rest, and Byakuya only fought number 7. And Ichigo who beat Byakuya barely beat number 6, couldn't keep up with 1st resurrection Ulquiorra and got stomped when he went 2nd ressurection, until he went full hollow. But honestly I still don't want to discuss with you, it's simply not worth my time.

Lol yea cuz ur wrong..like I said hitsugiya powers worked well against halibel cuz hers complemented his own she was clearly stronger than him an he had to run away from her at times she never ran from him..hitsugiya did nothing but struggle against halibel up untill the very end to where he had to use his strongest tec.

Byakuya fought an opponent that would have been deadly to hitsugiya cuz #7 power don't complement hitsugiya powers..you talking like Byakuya struggled with him or something he was trying to protect rukia an everything the moment Byakuya went bankai that fight was over like Byakuya said the difference between #7 power an his is like heaven an earth...lol so you telling me hitsugiya is also stronger than kenpachi an ichigo..the bankai hollowedfied ichigo that fought ulquiorra the second time around lol ok get real.

If there is such a huge power gap between espada an hitsugiya is so strong then why he say what he said here?

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he says even with the limit release seal removed he would still need bankai to beat yammy who's number 10.

An I'm not going to go into the whole halibel is not stronger the r1 ulquiorra thing an plus you don't know where r2 ranks in power...an the only reason hitsugiya beat a #6 espada luppi witch who is weaker than grimmjow is because he got destructed with rangiku while. Hitsugiya gathered an prepared an attack for him.

 

[bashkim]

We do not sure. When Ichigo fought Bach and Hashwald he was not in good shape.