Worst Victim of Plot no Jutsu and Talk no Jutsu

[Joseph Gomes]

The worst victim of PNJ and TNJ in Naruto manga was- Obito

All other characters in the manga got TNJ because they wanted to be TNJ'd. Nagato was TNJ'd by Naruto because he expressed interest in Naruto's views on world peace. Sasuke was TNJ'd by Hashirama because sasuke was willing to learn the history of Konoha.

But Obito getting TNJ by Naruto is the most ridiculous, and by far (imo), the worst writing in the manga. Obito was forced to get TNJ by the plot, despite his reluctance. The manga forcibly pushed the TNJ down Obito's throat, and he was not enjoying it even a bit.

Down below, shows the greatest piece of PIS in naruto history. It's so stupid you want to smash your head on the wall. No villain should ever get owned like this

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Kishi had always planned to make Madara the main villain, but he didn't realize how much power he had given to Obito. In a weak verse like Naruto where characters can barely destroy countries, Obito possessed the most wicked jutsu in NV. With his basic Mangekyou Sharingan, Obito could remain intangible, teleport anywhere he wanted without help from any object (FTG Kunai). His other eye given to Kakashi can warp anything it focuses on. Only Obito's eyes had counters to his own jutsu. To make sure sure Obito didn't solo NV, his powers had been repressed throughout the manga by plot (gifted away his eye after getting crushed by boulder, could not use kamui after becoming juubi jinchuuriki). Still it was not enough to put him down.

After Obito became the juubi jinchuriki, Kishi realized nobody on earth could beat him at that moment. So he brought the most outrageous TNJ of all time to get rid of him from the plot. It was purely desperate writing to make Madara the last villain (unless Kaguya replaces Madara later in the manga). Sakura and Chiyo at least beat Sasori in a fight with strategy, Naruto did the same to a weakened Kakuzu. But Obito as a juubi jinchuriki could not be beaten by fight, so the plot itself became his enemy. My sympathy to Obito-, greatest victim of PNJ and TNJ.


Your opinion? Do you agree with me?

 

[FatherOfMurder]

Obito, he killed thousands of innocents and still became "good"

>_>

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

negative...it was nagato...nagato so got trolled no jutsu that he gave his only life for the ones he deeply hated...and obtio is still alive

 

[NarutoB]

The readers since we're the only ones that care about that stuff

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Agree, Resticing Kamui for Juubito is the biggest asspull PnJ of all time.

 

[saw2097]

No. Obito made sense, he was created to be a dark version of Naruto and it was inevitable that he would be TNJ, if he hadn't that would have left loose ends with Kakashi's and Minato's story lines.

He was a character that was made to be TNJ.

 

[Lord Tywin]

kishi shat on nagato with his book crap. he was solo'd by a damn book

 

[-Spoiler-]

Manda.......

 

[Melania]

I thought Obito before I even clicked on this thread.

I agree.

 

[Howling Fox]

Suigetsu...

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

I have to agree it's nonsense but I'm still a fan.

 

[Ldude]

Actually Sakura and chi yo didn't BEAT him with strategy. Sasori chose to die when Chiyo brought out the puppets of his parents. Although it was a strategic battle, the end was disappointing because they never truly won. Sasori was hyped so much and I wish we could have seen him fight more. It was even more disappointing that Sasori never killed the opponent in the battles we saw him in. In fact, I'm surprised Chiyo and Sakura lasted that long. They should have died, or at least Kankuro.

 

[Corgi]

Obito would've died to Konan had it not been for Izanagi. He can only be intangible for five minutes and Konan's blasts lasted for ten minutes straight I think. Obito isn't completely invincible in Kamui.

OT: Nagato?

 

[-Punk-]

Actually Sakura and chi yo didn't BEAT him with strategy. Sasori chose to die when Chiyo brought out the puppets of his parents. Although it was a strategic battle, the end was disappointing because they never truly won. Sasori was hyped so much and I wish we could have seen him fight more. It was even more disappointing that Sasori never killed the opponent in the battles we saw him in. In fact, I'm surprised Chiyo and Sakura lasted that long. They should have died, or at least Kankuro.

Wow , first Sakura fan I read this from + Rep .

 

[a banned cartoon]

negative...it was nagato...nagato so got trolled no jutsu that he gave his only life for the ones he deeply hated...and obtio is still alive

Obito should've died too though.

 

[RikudoKami]

Nagato hands down...

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[SkyGodHorus]

The worst victim of PNJ and TNJ in Naruto manga was- Obito

All other characters in the manga got TNJ because they wanted to be TNJ'd. Nagato was TNJ'd by Naruto because he expressed interest in Naruto's views on world peace. Sasuke was TNJ'd by Hashirama because sasuke was willing to learn the history of Konoha.

But Obito getting TNJ by Naruto is the most ridiculous, and by far (imo), the worst writing in the manga. Obito was forced to get TNJ by the plot, despite his reluctance. The manga forcibly pushed the TNJ down Obito's throat, and he was not enjoying it even a bit.

Down below, shows the greatest piece of PIS in naruto history. It's so stupid you want to smash your head on the wall. No villain should ever get owned like this

Spoiler

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Kishi had always planned to make Madara the main villain, but he didn't realize how much power he had given to Obito. In a weak verse like Naruto where characters can barely destroy countries, Obito possessed the most wicked jutsu in NV. With his basic Mangekyou Sharingan, Obito could remain intangible, teleport anywhere he wanted without help from any object (FTG Kunai). His other eye given to Kakashi can warp anything it focuses on. Only Obito's eyes had counters to his own jutsu. To make sure sure Obito didn't solo NV, his powers had been repressed throughout the manga by plot (gifted away his eye after getting crushed by boulder, could not use kamui after becoming juubi jinchuuriki). Still it was not enough to put him down.

After Obito became the juubi jinchuriki, Kishi realized nobody on earth could beat him at that moment. So he brought the most outrageous TNJ of all time to get rid of him from the plot. It was purely desperate writing to make Madara the last villain (unless Kaguya replaces Madara later in the manga). Sakura and Chiyo at least beat Sasori in a fight with strategy, Naruto did the same to a weakened Kakuzu. But Obito as a juubi jinchuriki could not be beaten by fight, so the plot itself became his enemy. My sympathy to Obito-, greatest victim of PNJ and TNJ.


Your opinion? Do you agree with me?

No, I don't. From my perspective, Naruto had been influencing Obito ever since he defeated Kakuzu. Obito displayed anxiety over it and Konan told him to relax because Pein had never lost before. When he beat Pein, he visited Naruto to figure out what he said to him to make him change his mind and use rinnei tensei. He then preceded to say Naruto reminded him of Hashirama, and earlier on in Kakashi Gaiden, we learned that chuunin Obito was like Naruto. In the war, Obito claimed he didn't care who he was so long as inifnite tsukuyomi was cast, indicating he cared about peace over his life. He acknowledged Naruto, saying he would have to learn the right to find out his identity and was then perplexed and curious as to how Naruto was able to communicate with the bijuus. Furthermore, after Naruto beat Pein and Obito went to Amegakure to retrieve the Rinnegan from Konan and defeated her, he mentioned Naruto's name, saying that he was wrong and that there was no such thing as true peace, indicating that Naruto and Nagato's ideals had been on his mind. In the juubi revival arc, he continually placed his attention on Naruto, trying to convince him to give up so that no one would get hurt and everyone would be happy. Madara himself noticed this and compared Naruto to Obito's younger self. That's a hell of a lot of foreshadowing for me.

And that's not how I remember the end of the juubi revival arc. The sword of nunoboko was destroyed by Naruto, Sasuke, Kurama and the K11 and they, combined with the whole alliance connected their chakras to him to pull the bijuus out. Naruto was just talking to him in his inner world to remind him of whom he really was. He was Uchiha Obito, not Uchiha Madara.

 

[QuimicVital]

Did any of you seriously think Obito would just die without reverting to his old self? SERIOUSLY?

If there ever was a character that could be justifiably TNJ'd, it's Obito. Pain's a whole different story, though.

 

[Gein]

Jiraiya is the worst victim of PNJ

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

The worst victim of PNJ and TNJ in Naruto manga was- Obito

All other characters in the manga got TNJ because they wanted to be TNJ'd. Nagato was TNJ'd by Naruto because he expressed interest in Naruto's views on world peace. Sasuke was TNJ'd by Hashirama because sasuke was willing to learn the history of Konoha.

But Obito getting TNJ by Naruto is the most ridiculous, and by far (imo), the worst writing in the manga. Obito was forced to get TNJ by the plot, despite his reluctance. The manga forcibly pushed the TNJ down Obito's throat, and he was not enjoying it even a bit.

Down below, shows the greatest piece of PIS in naruto history. It's so stupid you want to smash your head on the wall. No villain should ever get owned like this

Spoiler

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Kishi had always planned to make Madara the main villain, but he didn't realize how much power he had given to Obito. In a weak verse like Naruto where characters can barely destroy countries, Obito possessed the most wicked jutsu in NV. With his basic Mangekyou Sharingan, Obito could remain intangible, teleport anywhere he wanted without help from any object (FTG Kunai). His other eye given to Kakashi can warp anything it focuses on. Only Obito's eyes had counters to his own jutsu. To make sure sure Obito didn't solo NV, his powers had been repressed throughout the manga by plot (gifted away his eye after getting crushed by boulder, could not use kamui after becoming juubi jinchuuriki). Still it was not enough to put him down.

After Obito became the juubi jinchuriki, Kishi realized nobody on earth could beat him at that moment. So he brought the most outrageous TNJ of all time to get rid of him from the plot. It was purely desperate writing to make Madara the last villain (unless Kaguya replaces Madara later in the manga). Sakura and Chiyo at least beat Sasori in a fight with strategy, Naruto did the same to a weakened Kakuzu. But Obito as a juubi jinchuriki could not be beaten by fight, so the plot itself became his enemy. My sympathy to Obito-, greatest victim of PNJ and TNJ.


Your opinion? Do you agree with me?

You're an idiot if you honestly believe Obito was meant to never turn "good" What series have you been reading? In the world of naruto nobody is evil they just have their own sense of good. Obito from the second he was unmasked has slowly been showing signs of regret and remorse. He sees what he could have turned his pain into thru naruto. At first he wanted to corrupt him to his way of thinking, but naruto has always persuaded the "villain" to his way of thinking. In just about every arc.

Zabuza, neji, gaara, tsunade, tried for sasuke but failed, granny chiyo, sai, Then shikamaru had an arc, then nagato, konan, raikage, the rest of the kage, the nine tails, the rest of the bijuu, and now Obito.

So again i ask. What kinda series do you think you have been reading all this time?