3T Madara vs. 3T Kakashi and Gai

[Joseph Gomes]

Oh boy -

FTG - Attack Speed - Reaction by Bee.

Speed of Light Teleportation - Attack Speed - Reaction by Madara.

This is my posts in a nutshell.



The Katon is extremely large - it's in form of waves. It's wash all over him, burning both Kakashi and Gai to a crisp. There is just no getting around this.

FTG is ftl, minato's reaction speeds are not. If Minato was indeed FTL he could solo NV in less than 1 millisecond, because FTG allows the user to travel at FTL. But clearly that's not the case, as the process takes time. Minato can't throw kunai's at FTL speed, his arms don't move at FTL speed. That's why FTG is not a perfect ftl move.

And Madara couldn't avoid Naruto's lava FRS, it shows what his reaction time is. Don't exaggerate one scan to contradict the rest.

Unless Naruto/Sasuke move at confirmed lightspeed and madara can see them/sense their chakra around him, we can't accept that he can react to light speed

 

[shelke]

FTG is ftl, minato's reaction speeds are not. If Minato was indeed FTL he could solo NV in less than 1 millisecond, because FTG allows the user to travel at FTL. But clearly that's not the case, as the process takes time. Minato can't throw kunai's at FTL speed, his arms don't move at FTL speed. That's why FTG is not a perfect ftl move.

And Madara couldn't avoid Naruto's lava FRS, it shows what his reaction time is. Don't exaggerate one scan to contradict the rest.

Unless Naruto/Sasuke move at confirmed lightspeed and madara can see them/sense their chakra around him, we can't accept that he can react to light speed

So, what are you disagreeing with? I never even once mentioned that Tsunade and Ae attacked at the speed of light - I said they teleported there at that Speed. Making their transition there instant. They popped there instantly. The rest was about how quickly Madara reacted to fend them off.

 

[eagle8]

kakashi & gai wins

 

[Kamui Sama]

Also the katon would go around the earth wall and engulf Kakashi anyway, unless he has a 360 wall, which would still get destroyed

He seemed unscathed by Itachi's fireball though. Of course its way smaller in size but how do you know it would engulf them when they go underground? Also Kakashi has shown to be capable of moving while underground when he sent the clone to Itachi

 

[MightGai]

Why are you even discussing that scene of the manga? It clear that there was a blinding light, Madara and Muu reacted to it, Tsunade and Ay appeared out of thin air and then proceeded to attack. They got there at the Speed of Light, they didn't attack at such speed, that's why both of them reacted to it.

Jesus, stop feeding trolls.

 

[Draphsin]

So much BS in this comment. You're better than this Drap.​

Lol What's wrong with it?

We know that 3T itachi can take on 3T kakashi & likely pull out a win, & madara is technically twice the fighter he is.

Where was this stated???

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[Aya San]

He seemed unscathed by Itachi's fireball though. Of course its way smaller in size but how do you know it would engulf them when they go underground? Also Kakashi has shown to be capable of moving while underground when he sent the clone to Itachi

He was unscathed because he evaded it. Madara's isn't a concentrated fireball but rather a stream of flame, so it would engulf Kakashi.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Itachi's katon did not incinerate the structures there.
The huge mokuton structures caught on fire but fire doesn't burn through wood *just like that*, firewood irl for example.
Madara's katon distorted buffed up Kyuubi cloaks, which by logic is > earth walls.

The scan speaks for it self. Itachi and sasuke(in cm) despite being smaller pack more of a punch. Incinerating and destroying landscape. Maddy's hasn't.

As for the "distortion" argument it didn't get through the cloak nor did it burn the rocks that the juubi smashed into it or the rocks on the floor. That means the cloak is stronger than the fireball/rocks/matanagma/rods being thrown at it. Not fireballs> rocks. Kcm naruto tanked it as well even though we've seen him get burned by roshi.

@shelke
Itachi's clone tore through the earth yet in the three scans I posted madara's fireball failing to get through trees or tear through rocks. Yet you still claim he can and says I'm baseless....lol. If kakashi makes a wall of the same materials madara already failed to burn through why would it go through the wall?

@aya san: the only katon that had shown the ability to go around defences and change form is hiruzen's Dragon flame tech. Madara used his massive fire tech on flower tree world yet despite there being spaces and gaps between the branches the kages never got burned. So why are you claiming it will do the opposite? Can you provide scans of it doing such a thing?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

He was unscathed because he evaded it. Madara's isn't a concentrated fireball but rather a stream of flame, so it would engulf Kakashi.

That's the reason why maddy won't get through kakashi's wall.

 

[WreckRoll]

kakashi soloes

hiding like a mole counters fire

lightning clone gg

 

[genii96]

Guy and kakashi win

 

[UchihaNagashi]

The scan speaks for it self. Itachi and sasuke(in cm) despite being smaller pack more of a punch. Incinerating and destroying landscape. Maddy's hasn't.

As for the "distortion" argument it didn't get through the cloak nor did it burn the rocks that the juubi smashed into it or the rocks on the floor. That means the cloak is stronger than the fireball/rocks/matanagma/rods being thrown at it. Not fireballs> rocks. Kcm naruto tanked it as well even though we've seen him get burned by roshi.

@shelke
Itachi's clone tore through the earth yet in the three scans I posted madara's fireball failing to get through trees or tear through rocks. Yet you still claim he can and says I'm baseless....lol. If kakashi makes a wall of the same materials madara already failed to burn through why would it go through the wall?

@aya san: the only katon that had shown the ability to go around defences and change form is hiruzen's Dragon flame tech. Madara used his massive fire tech on flower tree world yet despite there being spaces and gaps between the branches the kages never got burned. So why are you claiming it will do the opposite? Can you provide scans of it doing such a thing?

Do you honestly believe the duo takes this? No, they don't.

Gai's presumptive 'immunity' does not grant him victory at all; Madara can use Haijingakure firstly to blind especially Kakashi, since with Sharingan all he sees is Chakra. Of course, he has to disable a Sharingan (by covering it). The technique has a far reach, meaning both Gai and Kakashi would fall to it as also it burns as it's ash. This also renders dogs ineffective as ash has much stronger sense of smell than a human's body. Madara's advantages would be their blindness; he can follow the technique after that with a huge Katon they won't smell, see nor hear due to the dust.

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After incinerating, Madara stabs them with black rods. As he possesses still Mokuton in this match-up, he can easily restrain them using his Mokuryū that they can't avoid due to restrain caused by the rods already, and is about the size of a Bijū which can't be even harmed by mere Raiton that would be absorbed anyway. He proceeds to absorb their Chakra until they die.​