Tobirama's FTG

[Tobby17]

You state something that proves that Minato's FTG is better than Tobirama's but then you say that their FTGs are equal??

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I would think it would be obvious I was refering to the area different from which I already posted

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Nothing implies that seals effects the range of jutsu and Tobirama already pulled this feat against Obito when Naruto managed to land a hit on him.As I said b4 it is possible for Minato to have more range than Tobirama but what he pulled in prv chapter can be performed by Tobirama's FTG as well.

Given the space differences between when minato's seals were used in comparison to tobirama's seals minato's seals(or formula as its supposed to be called) nets on average a greater range.

 

[Bogard]

Bro,he teleported both Minato and Naruto along with their respective BM cloaks and Tobirama can't teleport Sasuke coz Madara's attack effects the chakra points of Senju bro's as noted by Hashirama.

1) He said he would use hiraishin not S/T barrier
2) Minato was about to do the same thing despite being physically unable to perform the barrier(it requires handseals and he was lacking one), so it was hiraishin
3) He said it was hiraishin only solution. If he could perform hiraishin with 4clones he would have. Armless Minato warped more destructive black spheres in greater number

 

[xxxLegacy]

Lets see, he is an EDO tensei body if he can make a clone teleport a TBB then what is stopping him from teleporting another one with his original? Nothing.They are in hopeless condition, Tobirama & Minato are the only options to save SA and it is clear as day Minato can't do much with single hand so Tobirama should carry the burden and he must do everything he can yet you are telling me that he won't consider teleporting them with clones despite of being one of the smartest dudes in NV? I have already said that if he don't have enough chakra to teleport all 4 of them then he should be able to deal with atleast two of them as it isn't a big deal for someone that can teleport two BM avatars at the same time.

How he want to touch a BIJUDAMA with his original without dying? This is ridiculous.
He say he can handel just 1 TBB with Hiraishin and Hiraishin is not a S/T barrier (or is it U_U?)
Than how you can tell us he has a S/T barrier when he dont show anything like that ??

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lets see, he is an EDO tensei body if he can make a clone teleport a TBB then what is stoping him from teleporting another one with his original? Nothing.They are in hopeless condition and Tobirama and Minato are the only options to save SA and it is clear as day Minato can't do much with single hand so Tobirama should carry the burden and he must do everything he can yet you are telling me that he won't consider teleporting them with clones despite of being one of the smartest dudes in NV? I have already said that if he don't have enough chakra to teleport all 4 of them then he should be able to deal with atleast two of them as it isn't a big deal for someone that can teleport two BM avatars at the same time.

You're not doing the math. If he uses 1 clone in addition to himself and minato uses himself that still leaves 1 tbb.

We don't know if he can use multiple clones to jump tbb's of that size, considering the nature of the shadow clone technique if he splits his chakra up to much the clone can't jump it/ touch it long enough to jump it without poofing.

 

[A v i]

Given the space differences between when minato's seals were used in comparison to tobirama's seals minato's seals(or formula as its supposed to be called) nets on average a greater range.

What if it depends on jutsu caster? regardless,Tobirama already pulled that feat against Obito as I said b4 so there is not point in dragging this any longer.

1) He said he would use hiraishin not S/T barrier
2) Minato was about to do the same thing despite being physically unable to perform the barrier(it requires handseals and he was lacking one), so it was hiraishin
3) He said it was hiraishin only solution. If he could perform hiraishin with 4clones he would have. Armless Minato warped more destructive black spheres in greater number

I don't think it is necessary for me to remind you of all people that S/T barrier is version of FTG.That second point is a joke if you ask me as we are talking about a guy who can perform the transfer of Bijju with left hand like a baws.

*Never thought I whould defend Tobirama against fellow Minato fans*Zzz

How he want to touch a BIJUDAMA with his original without dying? This is ridiculous.
He say he can handel just 1 TBB with Hiraishin and Hiraishin is not a S/T barrier (or is it U_U?)
Than how you can tell us he has a S/T barrier when he dont show anything like that ??

He is an EDO tensei body and S/T barrier is a part of FTG.

 

[Bogard]

I don't think it is necessary for me to remind you of all people that S/T barrier is version of FTG.That second point is a joke if you ask me as we are talking about a guy who can perform the transfer of Bijju with left hand like a baws.

*Never thought I whould defend Tobirama against fellow Minato fans*Zzz

And i never thought you would give him imaginary feats like that when nothing proves otherwise. Once again, he said he would use hiraishin

 

[A v i]

You're not doing the math. If he uses 1 clone in addition to himself and minato uses himself that still leaves 1 tbb.

We don't know if he can use multiple clones to jump tbb's of that size, considering the nature of the shadow clone technique if he splits his chakra up to much the clone can't jump it/ touch it long enough to jump it without poofing.

It dosen't matter,he must do everything he can to help SA.he can atlest avoid some deaths by teleporting 2 of them but he never considered that case.Tobirama's chakra pool is equal to 1/5th of Full Kyuubi or Hashirama considering the fact that he managed to make two clones while holding the barrier where as Hashirama made 11 or 10 clones.Minato teleported a much larger TBB without even using much chakra so I don't think it is a big deal for Tobirama to teleport two TBB's.

And i never thought you would give him imaginary feats like that when nothing proves otherwise. Once again, he said he would use hiraishin

They weren't imaginary feats as nothing stops Tobirama from teleporting atleast two TBB's with the help of clone/clones if he was really taking about normal teleportation.It makes perfect sense and once against S/T barrier is a part of FTG.We haven't seen anyone teleporting TBB's normally to began with.

 

[Bogard]

They weren't imaginary feats as nothing stops Tobirama from teleporting atleast two TBB's with the help of clone/clones if he was really taking about normal teleportation.It makes perfect sense and once against S/T barrier is a part of FTG.

Yes it is when you're contradicting a character statement. You're also calling Tobirama an idiot in relying on S/T barrier just to teleport one TBB when he can teleport 4 with 4clones

 

[xxxLegacy]

What if it depends on jutsu caster? regardless,Tobirama already pulled that feat against Obito as I said b4 so there is not point in dragging this any longer.

I don't think it is necessary for me to remind you of all people that S/T barrier is version of FTG.That second point is a joke if you ask me as we are talking about a guy who can perform the transfer of Bijju with left hand like a baws.

*Never thought I whould defend Tobirama against fellow Minato fans*Zzz




He is an EDO tensei body and S/T barrier is a part of FTG.

Jikūkan Kekkai is a Jutsu just of Minato this is only his skill, he has advanced FTG . That S/T barrier has nothing to do with Tobirama or FTG , you agree ?
You can not say that everybody that use FTG can also use Jikūkan Kekkai just cuz they are related. v Minato has just invented it so, that the are connected , nothing else.
FTG and Jikūkan Kekkai are two Jutsus but on the same basis.

 

[A v i]

Yes it is when you're contradicting a character statement. You're also calling Tobirama an idiot in relying on S/T barrier just to teleport one TBB when he can teleport 4 with 4clones

What you said is exact opposite of what Iam trying to say here.

Jikūkan Kekkai is a Jutsu just of Minato, he has advanced FTG . That S/T barrier has nothing to do with Tobirama , you agree ?
You can not say that everybody that use FTG can also use Jikūkan Kekkai just cuz they are related.

Tobirama can use S/T barrier but it is not as good as Minato coz his FTG is better than Tobirama.

 

[Bogard]

What you said is exact opposite of what Iam trying to say here.

You said

Nothing stops Tobirama from teleporting atleast two TBB's with the help of clone/clones if he was really taking about normal teleportation.

Why didn't he do that then?

 

[A v i]

You said


Why didn't he do that then?

As I said b4 what you said is exact opposite of what Iam saying here.Tobirama wasn't talking about normal FTG other wise he would have did what I have mentioned in that post but he didn't do that coz it isn't possible to teleport a TBB by normal means.He was talking about S/T barrier and he can only use one at a time and can only use it on one TBB on the other hand Minato can use multiple ones or can get more TBB's with single one.

 

[xxxLegacy]

What you said is exact opposite of what Iam trying to say here.



Tobirama can use S/T barrier but it is not as good as Minato coz his FTG is better than Tobirama.

Where he has used a S/T barrier ? Where ? Pls a SCAN . When you dont have a scan than he cant use a S/T barrier -.-''

 

[A v i]

Where he has used a S/T barrier ? Where ? Pls a SCAN . When you dont have a scan than he cant use a S/T barrier -.-''

If I have a scan then we have no reason to waste our time with this many posts.If that is the only argument you can give me to say that Tobirama can't use S/T barrier then let me ask you this: Have you ever seen anyone teleporting a TBB without S/T barrier? If you can give me a scan then I'll admit than he can't use it and if you can't give me a scan then Tobirama can use it coz he said that he can teleport a TBB.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

It dosen't matter,he must do everything he can to help SA.he can atlest avoid some deaths by teleporting 2 of them but he never considered that case.Tobirama's chakra pool is equal to 1/5th of Full Kyuubi or Hashirama considering the fact that he managed to make two clones while holding the barrier where as Hashirama made 11 or 10 clones.Minato teleported a much larger TBB without even using much chakra so I don't think it is a big deal for Tobirama to teleport two TBB's.



They weren't imaginary feats as nothing stops Tobirama from teleporting atleast two TBB's with the help of clone/clones if he was really taking about normal teleportation.It makes perfect sense and once against S/T barrier is a part of FTG.We haven't seen anyone teleporting TBB's normally to began with.

No death would be avoided. One juubi size tbb would murk that entire area. Obito did 4 to make sure they can't get away/jump it.
Minato's chakra levels are greater than that of tobirama's minato achieved sm.
Again tobirama would have to teleport 3 to cover for minato's lack of arms.

If he was "doing everything he can" he'd just jump the tree. But that thought either:
A) Didn't occur to him
B) Outside of his abilities.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

If I have a scan then we have no reason to waste our time with this many posts.If that is the only argument you can give me to say that Tobirama can't use S/T barrier then let me ask you this: Have you ever seem anyone teleporting a TBB without S/T barrier? If you can give me a scan then I'll admit than he can't use it and if you can't give me a scan then Tobirama can use it coz he said that he can teleport a TBB.

Tobirama teleported a gojudama without st barrier.

 

[Retsu]

He can only do those things if he uses Minato's superior ftg seal, which is why he asked to use his connection, but Minato has the better version.

 

[A v i]

No death would be avoided. One juubi size tbb would murk that entire area. Obito did 4 to make sure they can't get away/jump it.
Minato's chakra levels are greater than that of tobirama's minato achieved sm.
Again tobirama would have to teleport 3 to cover for minato's lack of arms.

If he was "doing everything he can" he'd just jump the tree. But that thought either:
A) Didn't occur to him
B) Outside of his abilities.

They are alot smaller than the Juubidama that was teleported by Minato.It is even bigger than Juubi on the other hand those TBB's are smaller than that tree and you are telling me that they are as big as that TBB? decreasing the no of TBB's would increase the no of survivers.

Tobirama teleported a gojudama without st barrier.

Even Minato did it yet he needed S/T barrier to deal with TBB.

 

[YellowFang]

Minato made it more battle suited...

Not taking anything away from Tobirama...