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Orochimaru? Really? He can't control Hashirama....And DSM Kabuto with his Edo Army >> Orochimaru even if he can control Hashirama.
Not so minuscule. And apparently those black balls take load of chakra as madara couldnt form new ones.
And yes it is relevant as it is then added to other factors such as beating and loss of onmyudon balls. Dont you think that a chakra is consumed when one recovers?
I wont deny that probably main reason is naruto's power up, but one cant deny that madara didnt fully recover yet it visibly clear. So it combination of both along with element of surprise.
Or should we also say that Obito in near vegetable state blitzed madara when he got his fist up madara's chest?
Tree is made of mokuton, it doesnt have any durability feat. Im sure regular giant FRS or PS slash would cut it down. SA was planning to do that anyway.
We dont know for sure. Naruto openly admits he needs sasuke for madara and madara isnt much stronger then obito. So it makes no sense for you to claim that naruto or sasuke can beat jin Obito U_U
By this logic naruto shouldnt be blitzing madara. Simply as naruto's base speed is pathetic compared to madara and the power up from combined bijuus shouldnt give better results then whole juubi.
Or maybe it does as we dont know how much stronger madara initially was both are juubi jins after all, difference couldnt be that great.
What im saying is that current naruto and sasuke have no place above jin Obito, surely not until more feats U_U
Nothing to relate here except logic twilight zone you live in.
What hole? It was little grasp for crying out loud U_U. Madara's durability was appropriate for SM he was having. Logically this SM was over written by nature energy from juubi.
He clearly was bisected.You must be registered for see images
I am serious. Both Obito and madara being juubi jins make them of roughly same power, with minor edge to madara.
Naruto needing sasuke to beat madara clearly indicated he would need sasuke to beat obito.
Yet somehow you turn sasuke and naruto being stronger then jin Obito which would render him under half of madara's power, so WTF?![]()
It simply devoid of logic contradiction based on god knows what judgement.
I would not say Madara has minor edge to Obito, as a villain who comes after Obito he is well above him.
Madara has obtained more bijuu, buffed up with SM and regeneration. Also at "base" he is more skilled and stronger than Obito. Even appearance is more neat to indicate who is more formidable.
Now he is getting even more stronger, as he looks more like Kaguya.
Don't know what is there to argue.
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Manga > Your Opinion
Stop tim, Your jimmies are reaching their rustle limit.
Not so minuscule. And apparently those black balls take load of chakra as madara couldnt form new ones.
And yes it is relevant as it is then added to other factors such as beating and loss of onmyudon balls. Dont you think that a chakra is consumed when one recovers?
I wont deny that probably main reason is naruto's power up, but one cant deny that madara didnt fully recover yet it visibly clear. So it combination of both along with element of surprise.
Or should we also say that Obito in near vegetable state blitzed madara when he got his fist up madara's chest?
Tree is made of mokuton, it doesnt have any durability feat. Im sure regular giant FRS or PS slash would cut it down. SA was planning to do that anyway.
We dont know for sure. Naruto openly admits he needs sasuke for madara and madara isnt much stronger then obito. So it makes no sense for you to claim that naruto or sasuke can beat jin Obito U_U
By this logic naruto shouldnt be blitzing madara. Simply as naruto's base speed is pathetic compared to madara and the power up from combined bijuus shouldnt give better results then whole juubi.
Or maybe it does as we dont know how much stronger madara initially was both are juubi jins after all, difference couldnt be that great.
What hole? It was little grasp for crying out loud U_U. Madara's durability was appropriate for SM he was having. Logically this SM was over written by nature energy from juubi.
He clearly was bisected.You must be registered for see images
I am serious. Both Obito and madara being juubi jins make them of roughly same power, with minor edge to madara.
Madara is way above Obito. Madara was way above Obito before even getting the Juubi, and was way above Jin Obito after getting the Juubi, and now he's way way above Jin Obito after absorbing the Shinju.Naruto needing sasuke to beat madara clearly indicated he would need sasuke to beat obito.
I have to say a list where two characters are named twice is pretty dum