Kaguya theory.

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I think that Kaguya is actually the Juubi. I know, I know, seems crazy right? Im not saying this is correct, but possible.

THINK about it. They say the Shinju created the Juubi in order to steal BACK its chakra. 1st of all, why would the Shinju make the fruit ? I mean, what was the purpose of it growing? just to sit there and eventually rot? what took so long for the Shinju to finally send the Juubi after the world. One would think that its because the Shinju took a long time to create the Juubi. Maybe so. But Im thinking..what if Kaguya became the Juubi due to her power continuously growing until she turned into a monstrocity? They say the Juubi went across the world causing destruction, if it was really ONLY trying to take back its chakra, why was it killing people? wouldnt it have just sprouted roots and absorb it from ppl instead of blowing them to smithereens? I think Kaguya was simply going on a rampage. Maybe the brothers knew that, or maybe they really didnt realize it was their mother.

Apparently, the Juubi has some actually concious. It recongized the sage's chakra, so its obviously NOT mindless, also, it reacted while being Obito's host, when Minato called to Obito, it was confused saying, "Obito..?"
What if Kaguya is trying to gather all the chakra from everyone in order to become her true self again. Also this can also explain why the tree seemingly was speaking to madara.

The Shinju was recreated through Obito's power as Juubi Jin. What if in doing that, Kaguya's chakra was pushed out into the tree, while the Juubi power itself stayed in Obito...or something like that. It can also explain why it foreshadowed her. Maybe when madara absorbed her, she was finally reconnected to her body again, and will eventually take over, or work together with madara.
 

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Nah so6p didn't split his mom into nine pieces. His mom is the death rabbit reaper(the ugly troll that we seen since part 1)
 

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Nah so6p didn't split his mom into nine pieces. His mom is the death rabbit reaper(the ugly troll that we seen since part 1)
Possibly..but I mean, why was she speaking to Madara? it never explained what happened to her. And if she is even more powerful than madara, I hardly doubt she died of OLD AGE. And honestly, the ONLY two ppl we know of that could match her were her sons.
 

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Possibly..but I mean, why was she speaking to Madara? it never explained what happened to her. And if she is even more powerful than madara, I hardly doubt she died of OLD AGE. And honestly, the ONLY two ppl we know of that could match her were her sons.

Jubi has emotion, so conciously it might talk to itself(madara linked to it, so he can hear)

If she's the death reaper, that's pretty much immortal and definitely more powerful than so6p

So6p said jubi was pissed off with so6mom, and try to steal the chakara back. So so6p seal it and split it into 9 piece
 

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I know my theory wont be 100% correct, but I do believe Kaguya's fate was her becoming the Juubi.
1. She wasnt sealed into the Shinju, that would make no sense.
2. She is the death reaper? maybe, but her being Juubi is more logical than her becoming a forbidden jutsu.
 

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Jubi has emotion, so conciously it might talk to itself(madara linked to it, so he can hear)

If she's the death reaper, that's pretty much immortal and definitely more powerful than so6p

If the Juubi is a creation from a non sentient being like a giant tree, why would the Juubi have emotion?
 

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I've seen others saying this as well, so you're not alone.

You've made some different points than what I've seen others making though, particularly the point about the Juubi taking forever to manifest. When I remember who made the other theory I read, I'll link it you. They made some good points that really supports this theory.
 

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I've made this theory since they first revealed Kaguya. Give it a read if you will, you might like it.

 

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Shino can also absorb chakra with his bugs, Susanoo is made of chakra, therefore Shino can solo Susanoo
 

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If the Juubi is a creation from a non sentient being like a giant tree, why would the Juubi have emotion?

Jubi been one pissed tree off as early as it was mentioned XD

And by the way, so6mom looks a lot more like the ugly reaper than the tree. I had that feeling 200 chapters before. After recent chapters, I'm basically 80% sure
 

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I've seen others saying this as well, so you're not alone.

You've made some different points than what I've seen others making though, particularly the point about the Juubi taking forever to manifest. When I remember who made the other theory I read, I'll link it you. They made some good points that really supports this theory.

Yay!
I mean, she does resemble the death reaper. Not going to deny that. But it also makes sense as to why she could have become the Juubi.
The only way I see her have becoming the death reaper is MAYBE..at some point of her reign, the Uzumaki used a special seal to turn her into the death reaper...but that dosent make much sense, because the death reaper is a jutsu, how do you make someone become a jutsu, and death reaper is mindless and only can act when the caster does. Why turn her into something like that? something that kills?
 

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Jubi been one pissed tree off as early as it was mentioned XD

And by the way, so6mom looks a lot more like the ugly reaper than the tree. I had that feeling 200 chapters before. After recent chapters, I'm basically 80% sure

Trees dont have emotions. They dont have a brain.
 

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I've made this theory since they first revealed Kaguya. Give it a read if you will, you might like it.


I swear I have never seen your theory until now. I guess we both think alike.
Also, it explains why when Obito recreated the Shinju, the fruit began to blossom into Kaguya's 3 eye, and not a actual fruit.

Lightbringer and I are calling it now. Kaguya's fate was never explained. No way was she overpowered. If the Juubi was REALLY running rampant, Kaguya should have been able to fight it alone.
 

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Yay!
I mean, she does resemble the death reaper. Not going to deny that. But it also makes sense as to why she could have become the Juubi.
The only way I see her have becoming the death reaper is MAYBE..at some point of her reign, the Uzumaki used a special seal to turn her into the death reaper...but that dosent make much sense, because the death reaper is a jutsu, how do you make someone become a jutsu, and death reaper is mindless and only can act when the caster does. Why turn her into something like that? something that kills?

Maybe she signed a deal in exchange for her complete immortality. By doing so people
can summon her to borrow her power


Trees dont have emotions. They dont have a brain.

Not when you call it "god" tree
 

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Yay!
I mean, she does resemble the death reaper. Not going to deny that. But it also makes sense as to why she could have become the Juubi.
The only way I see her have becoming the death reaper is MAYBE..at some point of her reign, the Uzumaki used a special seal to turn her into the death reaper...but that dosent make much sense, because the death reaper is a jutsu, how do you make someone become a jutsu, and death reaper is mindless and only can act when the caster does. Why turn her into something like that? something that kills?




Derp Obito suggested (in Lightbringer's thread) that her spirit became the Death Reaper, and I guess her chakra (?) became the Juubi. The two theories can still work together I suppose.

But I admit, the idea of how she became the Death Reaper is abstract at this point. The shinjuu/Juubi have only shown to be nothing more than destruction incarnate, not so sure if it has the know-how to turn someone into a spirit demon. All it apparently does is suck chakra out of people, and shoot bijuu damas everywhere. It's possible that her sons turned her into a spirit demon, but I don't see how turning her into a spirit demon that forces souls to do battle with each other for all eternity is punishment for her doing evil things =/.

Though, I guess both are still much in the realms of possibility. It wouldn't take much for Kishi to come up with some way for the God Tree to have punish her, making her a spirit demon. I guess once she was a spirit demon, a seal could have made her into a "jutsu". The seal sealed her away, but can also be performed to summon her again.
 
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Maybe she signed a deal in exchange for her complete immortality. By doing so people
can summon her to borrow her power




Not when you call it "god" tree

The people borrow her power? she kills them right afterwards. It could be...but I dont think as powerful as she was, would make a deal with someone weaker than herself.

ALSO, the ancient people referred to the tree as a god tree because of its size. Thing looks mountains look like sand hills in a playground.
 

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The people borrow her power? she kills them right afterwards. It could be...but I dont think as powerful as she was, would make a deal with someone weaker than herself.

ALSO, the ancient people referred to the tree as a god tree because of its size. Thing looks mountains look like sand hills in a playground.


Yumi said the tree might have a deal with her, so she not dealing with mortals, maybe she dealing with some other gods
It appears its a lot more than just huge tree. It is indeed a godtree
 
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