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AlphaScythian

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Obito is seriously underestimated here.
In his seemingly pathetic state he trolled jin madara.
Not even juubi jins have counter for intangibility hax.
So war Obito should rank in demigod or legendary at least.
 

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8th gate Gai >>> hashirama

Nope, gai cannot last long enough to get through all these jutsu



Mokuton Forest

Flower World

Giant Mokuton Hands

Wood Dragons

Wood Golem

Quintiple Rashomon

Buudha Statue and if he does get past the Buddha Statue which is highly unlikely gai won't be able to see through Bringer Of Darkness and would get picked apart to death while in that genjutsu.
 

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Naruto is not stronger than obito, not any carnation of naruto is stronger than obito.


Ms obito > sm naruto

ms obito > kcm naruto

ms obito > bm naruto

ms obito > bsm naruto

all because naruto can't touch him

its clear rinne/ms obito > all carnations of naruto because naruto can't touch him even with the sage's senpou and 9 bijuu's he still can't touch obito.



When was hiruzen's hype debunked? don't worry I'll wait even though that proof doesn't exist.

Nagato when he and itachi were edo's traveling together placed them on equal footing saying with our dojutsu we could have ruled the world.


Danzo is not equal to ms sasuek, first off sasuke was already exhausted and physically bruised and batter from his previous clash with the kage. Sasuke was even capable of continuing to fight against kakashi and clash with naruto whereas danzo was not and gave up with a sealing tech because he couldn't hang with sasuke.

You think MS Obito is stronger than Current Naruto? WOW! I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.

Hiruzen was said to be the god of shinobi in part 1, whowever in part 2 Orochimaru calls Hashirama the good of shinobi. Kishi obviously retconned it.

That statement doesn't mean Nagaot and Itachi were on equal footing. And Nagato could barely destroy Konoha so no not even together would they be able to rule the world.

Karin healed Sasuke before he fought Danzo. Danzo was also holding back to fight Obito and Sasuke was only able to continue fighting because Karin healed him at the end of the fight. Had Karin not healed him it would have been a tie.
 

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Gai had help even going into the 8th gate, if lee would have never saved gai he would have been dead and would've have never been able to use the 8th gate so yes gai with help nearly beat Godara.

Exactly, so he should be at least equal with Madara.
 

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Well according to you bell test Naruto and Sasuke are on the same level as PTS Chouji -.-

Chouji destroys both.
 

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This list has so much flaws.

Madara is above Hagoromo and Kaguya. The fact he absorbed the whole Shinju proves it. Kakashi, Shisui, and Danzo are demi-gods. They can 1-shot almost every character. There is many more, but I wont bother listing it.
 

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This list has so much flaws.

Madara is above Hagoromo and Kaguya. The fact he absorbed the whole Shinju proves it. Kakashi, Shisui, and Danzo are demi-gods. They can 1-shot almost every character. There is many more, but I wont bother listing it.

The characters are not in order.
 

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What the hell??
You have Kiba as Genin but part 1 Sakura as Chuunin....
 

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You think MS Obito is stronger than Current Naruto? WOW! I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.

Hiruzen was said to be the god of shinobi in part 1, whowever in part 2 Orochimaru calls Hashirama the good of shinobi. Kishi obviously retconned it.

That statement doesn't mean Nagaot and Itachi were on equal footing. And Nagato could barely destroy Konoha so no not even together would they be able to rule the world.

Karin healed Sasuke before he fought Danzo. Danzo was also holding back to fight Obito and Sasuke was only able to continue fighting because Karin healed him at the end of the fight. Had Karin not healed him it would have been a tie.

I know naruto can't touch obito on his own because he isn't fast enough which is a manga fact what you are assuming is since naruto has 9 bijuu's and sage's senpou that he is now fast enough to hit obito but the truth is obito's kamui never changed in speed since he was a kid vs minato until he faced Godara with kakashi that is the only time his kamui speed improved and that was the only time he admitted someone's was capable of hitting him and since naruto has half the power of a juubi jin and it took a juubi jin to be bale to hit obito.


Hashirama has always been called the God Of Shinobi as well as hiruzen their is no retconned in it. In part 2 during a flash back hiruzen tells tobirama and young danzo and the rest of the team he will stay back because we all know I'm the strongest, also before danzo died he said he could never catch up too hiruzen even while having ka and a bunch of izanagi sharingan to use yet he still said he couldn't catch up to hiruzen and said hiruzen's skill with any jutsu is unsurpassed. So again there is no retconned their whatsoever.


How was nagato barely able to destroy konoha? He did destroy 75% of konoha after fighting a bunch of shinobi. Had he just used ct or st from the start the village would have been gone. Also nagato himself as stated by kcm naruto " when he uses the jutsu himself its on a whole different level " and killer bee simply said " this guy is hella strong ". Also the majority of shinobi in the world were less than itachi even while terminally ill and going blind only obito or nagato would have been better of equal to itachi, all shinobi fall before tsukoyami unless their a sibling like sasuke and ka was designed to stop sasuke. Also it was nagato's statement which was written by kishi and put in the manga.


Also yes karin healed him but you know sasuke wasn't 100% not to mention he still had bruises on him from his last fight and he wasn't holding back, we can say he was until the fight actually got serious but when it became adamant to danzo that sasuke was powerful why would he still be holding back?
 
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Exactly, so he should be at least equal with Madara.

Nope, he lost to Godara because he was outlasted until naruto spared his life. So technically Godara is slightly > 8tg Gate Gai and now Godara is surely above Gai with no discussion since he basically absorbed kaguya/shinju
 

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Part1 Sakura was able to use medical ninjutsu. Name a gennin level ninja who can do the same.
 

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Part1 Sakura was able to use medical ninjutsu. Name a gennin level ninja who can do the same.

Kabuto...Tsunade when she was young (presumably, she is the best medic of all time after all)...Rin (more or less genin)

Any average medic really.
 

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Part1 Sakura was able to use medical ninjutsu. Name a gennin level ninja who can do the same.
Niqqa are you high? You are implying that part 1 Sakura >>Kiba.
I repeat, are you high?
 

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Niqqa are you high? You are implying that part 1 Sakura >>Kiba.
I repeat, are you high?

In a battle Kiba >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sakura, but by abilities Sakura > Kiba. She was more skilled in genjutsu, medical ninjutsu and chakra control than the guys from her agegroup.
 

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Kabuto...Tsunade when she was young (presumably, she is the best medic of all time after all)...Rin (more or less genin)

Any average medic really.

But none of them was gennin level.
 

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Nope, he lost to Godara because he was outlasted until naruto spared his life. So technically Godara is slightly > 8tg Gate Gai and now Godara is surely above Gai with no discussion since he basically absorbed kaguya/shinju

He wasn't outlasted, Gai broke through his body and even Madara said he was lucky to be alive. Madara couldn't hit Gai at all and he kept praising his speed every time he could.
 

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This list has so much flaws.

Madara is above Hagoromo and Kaguya. The fact he absorbed the whole Shinju proves it. Kakashi, Shisui, and Danzo are demi-gods. They can 1-shot almost every character. There is many more, but I wont bother listing it.

If kakashi was demi god level that would mean he is on par with current naruto and sasuke but he isn't, and the fact that he didn't even attempt to clash with Godara proves it and his kamui usage has to build up the chakra in that eye and then use it, all sm sensors and fast shinobi or fast justsu would hit kakashi while he's building up the chakra or while he is using kamui. Kakashi would get destroyed by too many before he could even use kamui. As well as danzo, he would lose to the like of A or some speedster neg diff and if you think a genjutsu can't be countered or reversed then you a sadly mistaken sense itachi has reversed a genjutsu so genjutsu reversal is very possible.
 

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He wasn't outlasted, Gai broke through his body and even Madara said he was lucky to be alive. Madara couldn't hit Gai at all and he kept praising his speed every time he could.

Dude did you not see gai's little chakra in his heart start to disappear, which means he was about to die it looks like gai is down for the count and madara is still standing so that means gas outlasted. I don't know why you are even arguing this. Whether Godara could hit gai doesn't matter and whether he was lucky doesn't matter what does matter and what is a fact is that madara's durability held up long enough for gai to exhaust his 8th gate and die( naruto saved him so he didn't die.)
 
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