[theory] Why sasuke got Kaguya s eye and not the rinnegan

[TrollKing]

I think it is perfectly reasonable:

You eat the fruit from the Shinju - you get nine tomes

You absorb the whole Shinju/juubi - you get rinnegan

Other characters were only able to get rinnegan because of the powers Hagoromo passed down, he was the only one who awakened rinnegan all by himself.

How can jubi has far weaker eye than nagato?? And the weaker eye can cast infinite tsukuyomi while the stronger eye can't????

 

[Behemoth55]

I really like one thing about your thesis-your statement regarding Kaguyas chakra. It could be true that you've to awake a chakra similar to Kaguya (or to Jūbi too?) to awake her Sharingan.

 

[TrollKing]

Naruto can pick them up as well in sage mode, it doesn't mean sage mode>rinnegan, Sasuke got power up he is now able to touch them, doesn't mean much else, i think.

So sasuke got body up as well as eye??

 

[AlphaScythian]

Naruto can pick them up as well in sage mode, it doesn't mean sage mode>rinnegan, Sasuke got power up he is now able to touch them, doesn't mean much else, i think.

O yeah that's right having the eye of the NV god only allows you to touch some shitty rods that people have touched b4 and survived.

 

[TrollKing]

I really like one thing about your thesis-your statement regarding Kaguyas chakra. It could be true that you've to awake a chakra similar to Kaguya (or to Jūbi too?) to awake her Sharingan.

NO sasuke has so6p chakara so naruto can equate him!!!!

 

[Crizek]

How can jubi has far weaker eye than nagato?? And the weaker eye can cast infinite tsukuyomi while the stronger eye can't????

Nagato's rinnegan was Madara's property, only implanted into him. Madara awakened Rinnegan just because of Hagoromo's bloodline. Nine tome might be higher level of Sharingan, because Tsukuyomi is Sharingan's ability. Rinnegan can mass revive the dead, i bet 1M$ nine tome can't do that. That one ability doesn't mean it's better.

 

[phantomlord22]

nice theory
but it's a long shot
still cool

 

[AlphaScythian]

Nagato's rinnegan was Madara's property, only implanted into him. Madara awakened Rinnegan just because of Hagoromo's bloodline. Nine tome might be higher level of Sharingan, because Tsukuyomi is Sharingan's ability. Rinnegan can mass revive the dead, i bet 1M$ nine tome can't do that. That one ability doesn't mean it's better.

Dont you freaking see that 9T is the combination of rinnegan and sharingan the original eye of juubi.
3t sharingan is already powerful enough to alter reality or fate of some one.
Rinnegan revives dead at cost of own life.

Kaguya was confirmed to be stronger then hagoromo but she had no rinnegan, it clearly wasnt byakugan that made her OP, it was 9T.

 

[TrollKing]

Nagato's rinnegan was Madara's property, only implanted into him. Madara awakened Rinnegan just because of Hagoromo's bloodline. Nine tome might be higher level of Sharingan, because Tsukuyomi is Sharingan's ability. Rinnegan can mass revive the dead, i bet 1M$ nine tome can't do that. That one ability doesn't mean it's better.

But it appear sasuke already possessed all rinnegan abilities but stronger

 

[Crizek]

Dont you freaking see that 9T is the combination of rinnegan and sharingan the original eye of juubi.
3t sharingan is already powerful enough to alter reality or fate of some one.
Rinnegan revives dead at cost of own life.

Kaguya was confirmed to be stronger then hagoromo but she had no rinnegan, it clearly wasnt byakugan that made her OP, it was 9T.

In order to alter reality or fate you need to give up that Sharingan as well. Still it's clear how Hagoromo gave Naruto the body of the sage, and Sasuke the eyes, as it was said. Hagoromo couldn't give Sasuke power he didn't have, so i assume he has power surpassing it, since he doesn't use nine tome.

Nine tome is original eye of juubi, and Rinnegan is original eye of juubi host, if anyone got the best possible dojutsu possible it would be Hagoromo who absorbed the whole tree not Kaguya who only ate the fruit. That is why i think rinnegan > nine tome. I don't believe nine tome possesses all abilities of rinnegan it most likely has only it's destructive powers, plus sharingan's abilities mixed into it. Rinnegan can manipulate life, matter, chakra, more perfect dojutsu can't exist.

 

[Crizek]

But it appear sasuke already possessed all rinnegan abilities but stronger

Like what? I didn't see him use any.

 

[Stxluciferr]

I wouldn't mind if this were true

 

[Xāvî1]

manga facts > your logic and opinion

 

[Behemoth55]

NO sasuke has so6p chakara so naruto can equate him!!!!

Sasuke has a Sharingan(connection to Jūbis eye), Indras chakra and Hagoromos chakra. All parts together could (probably) create a chakra similar to Kaguyas.

 

[AlphaScythian]

In order to alter reality or fate you need to give up that Sharingan as well. Still it's clear how Hagoromo gave Naruto the body of the sage, and Sasuke the eyes, as it was said. Hagoromo couldn't give Sasuke power he didn't have, so i assume he has power surpassing it, since he doesn't use nine tome.

The other conclusion would be that sasuke has got something else in addition that resulted in 9T in addition to what hagoromo gave.

Nine tome is original eye of juubi, and Rinnegan is original eye of juubi host, if anyone got the best possible dojutsu possible it would be Hagoromo who absorbed the whole tree not Kaguya who only ate the fruit. That is why i think rinnegan > nine tome. I don't believe nine tome possesses all abilities of rinnegan it most likely has only it's destructive powers, plus sharingan's abilities mixed into it. Rinnegan can manipulate life, matter, chakra, more perfect dojutsu can't exist.

A fruit is manifestation of all chakra. By eating fruit kaguya gotten most, probably best chakra also. It also resulted into 9T in her possession, note that not even current juubi had 9T but 6T only.

A perfect doujutsu clearly would be mix of sharingan and rinnegan*
Rinnegan cant hypnotize and control people, had no increased perception.
Rinnegan cant hope to replicate unique MS skills like amaterasu, kamui KA.

 

[21naruto21]

Ok everyone welcome to yet agian one of my other threads In this thread i m gona explain why sasuke didn't get the rinnegan but he got Kaguya's eye its just a theory so pls read all of it and hope you enjoy it Here we go

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First of all How is the rinnegan created... The sage explained that in order for someone to awaken the rinnegan he would need to have asura chakra (the senju) and indra chakra (the uchiha) combined ...

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and madara continous it by saying that it can only be achived when your lifespan is over .. So technicaly you need indra s chakra and ashura s chakra and a near death experince

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Now Under normal ciurcumastances Sasuke should have awakned the rinnegan since kabuto implanted in him some hashirama dna However he didn't instead he awaked kaguya's eye ..

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So i now this might sound crazy but i believe that the reason behind this is sasuke s mom ... Now before you start throwing tables at me listen carefully ... So what could have possible let to sasuke awaking Kaguya's chakra... I mean combining uchiha and senju normaly results in the sage s chakra (the rinnegan) but with sasuke it was a bit different

So let's see How can Kaguya's chakra awake in someone ... Well what we do know is that the sage s chakra is Senju + uchiha ... However what we know up until now is that Kaguya's chakra is senju + uchiha + hyuga
and this is why i believe that sasuke s mom was actually half Hyuga ... I believe that her hyuga gene never activated but it has been proven that gene's can still be passed down from parents too kidds even if they are not Activated and to further prove thiss Sasuke himself admited that he was not a pure uchiha

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Could it be because of his mom and why did it only activate now .... Well let s be specific this is the only point in time where sasuke meet the conditions he had senju dna in him ... The full power of an uchiha .... the death factor requirment soo the condtions to activate the rinnegan are meet butt he is more than that he also has the final required factor .. The hyugga blood as well so i believe that s why instead of activating the rinnegan he activated Kaguya's eye .... Thnx for reading

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Not a bad try but you totaly missed the last few chapters it doesnt matter if its uchia dna and senju dna at all it has to be the person
containing both brothers chakra at the same time as was stated by the so6p so the only thing saskue got from kabuto healing him with the 1st cloned cells was a better healing ability and didnt die. As for madara only unlocking the rin close to death doesnt mean that is the only way thats just when he unlocked it. As for your theroy that his mom could have been a hyuga is possible but you must all remeber no uchia was pure as then it would have been incest. when he said he wasnt pure could have been him stating he is evil and not good or is tainted from what he has seen and done. it could go either way but its not the dna that brings out the rin has been stated and discused quit often since the sage stated how madara unlocked it.

 

[Crizek]

The other conclusion would be that sasuke has got something else in addition that resulted in 9T in addition to what hagoromo gave.

A fruit is manifestation of all chakra. By eating fruit kaguya gotten most, probably best chakra also. It also resulted into 9T in her possession, note that not even current juubi had 9T but 6T only.

A perfect doujutsu clearly would be mix of sharingan and rinnegan*
Rinnegan cant hypnotize and control people, had no increased perception.
Rinnegan cant hope to replicate unique MS skills like amaterasu, kamui KA.

A good point made at last. Now until it is properly explained in the manga i will still cling to my point of view, your explanation is really good as well. If what you assume is true and Sasuke now has rinnegan/sharingan abilities mixed into one than it's Good Game NoRematch, for Madara, he can kiss his ass goodbye. Although Madara after seeing Sasuke's eye treated it as a normal rinnegan, if it was that great he propably would be much more bothered by it, it's possible that Madara doesn't know it's power though.

Also i still think the perfect dojutsu might be just rinnegan, because obito basically had it before becoming juubi jin, he had sharingan in one eye and rinnegan in his second eye, plus Madara could do the same, so I assume when you have power's that being juubi jin and having rinnegan give you sharingan's abilities are no longer relevant.

 

[NarutoWA]

No, Kaguya had Byakugan with Sharingan traits.
What Sasuke has, is Rinnegan with Sharingan traits.
He is more or less the elder son of So6p

 

[TrollKing]

A good point made at last. Now until it is properly explained in the manga i will still cling to my point of view, your explanation is really good as well. If what you assume is true and Sasuke now has rinnegan/sharingan abilities mixed into one than it's Good Game NoRematch, for Madara, he can kiss his ass goodbye. Although Madara after seeing Sasuke's eye treated it as a normal rinnegan, if it was that great he propably would be much more bothered by it, it's possible that Madara doesn't know it's power though.

Also i still think the perfect dojutsu might be just rinnegan, because obito basically had it before becoming juubi jin, he had sharingan in one eye and rinnegan in his second eye, plus Madara could do the same, so I assume when you have power's that being juubi jin and having rinnegan give you sharingan's abilities are no longer relevant.

Madara is an uchiha, so he suppose to have nine tomes too

 

[darkstar94]

Sage couldn't give sasuke something he doesnt have or couldn't awaken

Who told u that my friend.....
Y would sage give them powers that they could acquire own their own