Wait!!!!!!!! Shisui had Susano'o? The anime killed Shisui

[Draphsin]

Dude to this day even the manga contradicts itself countless & countless of times i'll give it you animation does contradict manga alot more the timeline events and all don't match techinques that were supposedly unbeatable became beatable like obito stated a world of lies lmao, but i give the susanoo some what creditably because kishimoto created it himself .

Kishimoto helped create the game, that doesn't make the game canon.

As I said earlier movesets for characters contradict what they're known to do in the manga. The game says that muu can split & use jinton with both bodies, but the manga explicitly stated that he can't do that.

In the manga there is a fact, & the game goes against that fact for entertainment's sake. You don't expect the characters in the manga to be pulling off the same moves in-game, so why is shisui's susanoo an exception?

It's a treat for the fans & nothing more, to make shisui a more popular character, because I'm sure just having him use shunshin & KA would get boring fast.

Now I will say that there are akatsuki backstories associated with the game & I wouldn't be surprised if kishi oversaw the creation of those personally to give actual canon insight on the akatsuki in the past. Now if shisui uses his in-game susanoo in those stories then I may actually consider it canon, but until then it's only part of a game.

 

[assface3]

For once, I agree with you, Solo; the man got trolled the hardest out of any character in the manga/anime.

I can tell you why he was trolled, though: he was too OP. Think about it for a second; he had, KA, and could most likely use it like Itachi uses Tsukuyomi (about 2-3 times a day), due to being an Uchiha and the original owner of the jutsu. On top of that, he had BOTH eyes, so, there's a chance he had yet another OP jutsu. Now, it's been revealed that he had Susanoo.

KA alone > everyone.

With Susanoo, he could have beat the likes of Kaguya.

 

[Solo]

For those saying it's exclusive to the game. Thank you for stating the obvious.

 

[EKSITE]

Kishimoto helped create the game, that doesn't make the game canon.

As I said earlier movesets for characters contradict what they're known to do in the manga. The game says that muu can split & use jinton with both bodies, but the manga explicitly stated that he can't do that.

In the manga there is a fact, & the game goes against that fact for entertainment's sake. You don't expect the characters in the manga to be pulling off the same moves in-game, so why is shisui's susanoo an exception?

It's a treat for the fans & nothing more, to make shisui a more popular character, because I'm sure just having him use shunshin & KA would get boring fast.

Now I will say that there are akatsuki backstories associated with the game & I wouldn't be surprised if kishi oversaw the creation of those personally to give actual canon insight on the akatsuki in the past. Now if shisui uses his in-game susanoo in those stories then I may actually consider it canon, but until then it's only part of a game.

Not saying that the game itself is canon but the work and design of kishimoto, even the manga contradicts itself Totsuka is suppose to trap you in a eternal genjutsu till the end of time but Orochimaru has broken that etc I see were your coming from aspecially with muu


like this Jiraya was able to fuse his fire element with rasengan but naruto was the first to fuse his element with the rasengan or Jiraya using chidori lmao.

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But when the sketch and work of the original author comes to play that's a whole different.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Kishimoto helped create the game, that doesn't make the game canon.

As I said earlier movesets for characters contradict what they're known to do in the manga. The game says that muu can split & use jinton with both bodies, but the manga explicitly stated that he can't do that.

In the manga there is a fact, & the game goes against that fact for entertainment's sake. You don't expect the characters in the manga to be pulling off the same moves in-game, so why is shisui's susanoo an exception?

It's a treat for the fans & nothing more, to make shisui a more popular character, because I'm sure just having him use shunshin & KA would get boring fast.

Now I will say that there are akatsuki backstories associated with the game & I wouldn't be surprised if kishi oversaw the creation of those personally to give actual canon insight on the akatsuki in the past. Now if shisui uses his in-game susanoo in those stories then I may actually consider it canon, but until then it's only part of a game.

Fair enough. Personally I don't care what power he has as long as it's something you can know about.

 

[Draphsin]

But when the sketch and work of the original author comes to play that's a whole different.

We're pretty much on the same page, but it's not much different though, think about it like this.

The original artwork for sasuke, itachi, & madara's in-game susanoos had to come from somewhere too. The creators of the game could've simply asked kishi for an original susanoo concept for shisui to improve his moveset, & he created it for the reasons I mentioned [fan service].

Fair enough. Personally I don't care what power he has as long as it's something you can know about.

Well I do agree, which is why I'm excited for the akatsuki backstories, hopefully Itachi's past is thorough.

 

[Yolobito Swagchiha]

Shisui was completely caught off guard by Danzo's Izanagi, thus didn't really have any time to react.

C'mon, Itachi was able to react in 1/1000th of a second to Sasuke's Kirin. Shisui had more time than that,

 

[Gold Lightning]

Kishimoto helped create the game, that doesn't make the game canon.

As I said earlier movesets for characters contradict what they're known to do in the manga. The game says that muu can split & use jinton with both bodies, but the manga explicitly stated that he can't do that.

In the manga there is a fact, & the game goes against that fact for entertainment's sake. You don't expect the characters in the manga to be pulling off the same moves in-game, so why is shisui's susanoo an exception?

It's a treat for the fans & nothing more, to make shisui a more popular character, because I'm sure just having him use shunshin & KA would get boring fast.

Now I will say that there are akatsuki backstories associated with the game & I wouldn't be surprised if kishi oversaw the creation of those personally to give actual canon insight on the akatsuki in the past. Now if shisui uses his in-game susanoo in those stories then I may actually consider it canon, but until then it's only part of a game.

Just for the record, I doubt Kishi had any involvement in Mu's Ultimate jutsu. When kishi inputs something into these games, they tell us about it. He created Shisui the character and now he has created Susanoo to add to his arsenal.

Game exclusive or not doesn't matter since Shisui is dead. For all we know he had this concept ages ago but didn't think it was relevant and so he left it out of the manga.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

We're pretty much on the same page, but it's not much different though, think about it like this.

The original artwork for sasuke, itachi, & madara's in-game susanoos had to come from somewhere too. The creators of the game could've simply asked kishi for an original susanoo concept for shisui to improve his moveset, & he created it for the reasons I mentioned [fan service].



Well I do agree, which is why I'm excited for the akatsuki backstories, hopefully Itachi's past is thorough.

Here's what I want most out of Shisui's story. THE FREAKING CONDITIONS OF KA! For all we know, he just activates it, and no matter what, you're caught. Every jutsu has a weakness, so obviously there's a risk attached and/or conditions to be met. However, neither the manga, nor the anime have gotten into this.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

but until then it's only part of a game.

Unless users make it a condition use, for vs thread match up scenarios

(Expect mine soon)

 

[Optimistic]

some gurren lagann drill going on here.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

some gurren lagann drill going on here.

I'd lol so hard if Shisui names it "heaven piercing drill" in the game!

 

[Draphsin]

Just for the record, I doubt Kishi had any involvement in Mu's Ultimate jutsu. When kishi inputs something into these games, they tell us about it. He created Shisui the character and now he has created Susanoo to add to his arsenal.

As I said just because kishi added it in doesn't mean that it's canon. Yes kishi added shisui into the game, & yes kishi gave shisui a susanoo. But that doesn't make it canon.

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was created by kishi but he certainly isn't canon.

Game exclusive or not doesn't matter since Shisui is dead. For all we know he had this concept ages ago but didn't think it was relevant and so he left it out of the manga.

But the fact that it's not in the manga means that it's not canon.

Here's what I want most out of Shisui's story. THE FREAKING CONDITIONS OF KA! For all we know, he just activates it, and no matter what, you're caught. Every jutsu has a weakness, so obviously there's a risk attached and/or conditions to be met. However, neither the manga, nor the anime have gotten into this.

Actually KA does have a weakness, it's still an ocular genjutsu, meaning that the user still has to inject chakra into the eye through his own eye.

Yes that chakra can go through objects [bandages, obstacles, etc.] but you can't cast KA on someone's foot & expect them to get GG'd, it doesn't work like that.

So jutsus which completely obscure the user's vision are good counters to KA.

Unless users make it a condition use, for vs thread match up scenarios

(Expect mine soon)

That's fine, although you'd have to use video game feats. Lol

 

[Sennin of Logic]

As I said just because kishi added it in doesn't mean that it's canon. Yes kishi added shisui into the game, & yes kishi gave shisui a susanoo. But that doesn't make it canon.

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was created by kishi but he certainly isn't canon.



But the fact that it's not in the manga means that it's not canon.

Who knows........... Maybe it is, and it's just in hiding, waiting to make its entrance as the final villain!

 

[Optimistic]

I'd lol so hard if Shisui names it "heaven piercing drill" in the game!

or his sharingan turns into a spiral. If i switch the language to Japanese and hear shisui shout something with Rasen!!(rolling the 'R' of course) i'm gonna bash my head against a knife and swan dive off a cliff.

 

[Solo]

Here's what I want most out of Shisui's story. THE FREAKING CONDITIONS OF KA! For all we know, he just activates it, and no matter what, you're caught. Every jutsu has a weakness, so obviously there's a risk attached and/or conditions to be met. However, neither the manga, nor the anime have gotten into this.

Didn't they say he couldn't activate his MS for like 10 or 12 years when he used it? Unlike you have Hashirama. Not sure if that applied to him or people outside of the Uchiha.

I'm pretty sure if they go into how he obtained his MS, will be the death of Kagami.

 

[Gold Lightning]

As I said just because kishi added it in doesn't mean that it's canon. Yes kishi added shisui into the game, & yes kishi gave shisui a susanoo. But that doesn't make it canon.

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was created by kishi but he certainly isn't canon.



But the fact that it's not in the manga means that it's not canon.

I never used the word canon. I'm just saying believing that someone like Shisui has Susanoo isn't something to really doubt. He never used Fireball jutsu in the manga but I think we all know he can.

And only Kishi truly knows if Green Shisui Susanoo is canon. He could come out tomorrow and say it is, or it may have always been but didn't find it relavent to reveal. The game is going to have new animated content with shisui involved which is also influenced by kishi so I look forward to seeing what that is about.

And only reason mecha naruto exists is because the game developers asked kishi to make a new robot styled naruto character. We don't yet know what the deal behind shisui is yet.

 

[HisokaXakosiH]

Yea even Shisui got 1 but not obito lel as long as he dont get one I'm cool Lel

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Didn't they say he couldn't activate his MS for like 10 or 12 years when he used it? Unlike you have Hashirama. Not sure if that applied to him or people outside of the Uchiha.

I'm pretty sure if they go into how he obtained his MS, will be the death of Kagami.

Not certain about that. For one thing. That'd mean that he only used it once in his life, which I find unlikely. Itachi may have been talking about it without an Uchiha as a host.

 

[assface3]

Didn't they say he couldn't activate his MS for like 10 or 12 years when he used it? Unlike you have Hashirama. Not sure if that applied to him or people outside of the Uchiha.

I'm pretty sure if they go into how he obtained his MS, will be the death of Kagami.

No, that only applies to non-Uchihas who don't have Hashirama's cells.

Shisui could likely use the technique once a day or something, which would make sense, being that he's an Uchiha and the original owner of the jutsu.