Wait!!!!!!!! Shisui had Susano'o? The anime killed Shisui

[Draphsin]

It might as well be considered as part of Shisui's arsenal. Neither the manga, nor the anime goes into his arsenal other than "he had KA, was the best genjutsu user, was good at body flicker, has fireball jutsu." The game's making the closest thing to an arsenal for him.

No the game is giving him moves that he's never shown or has been known to possess.

There are things created for games, that are exclusive to games. Calling shisui's susanoo canon is the exact same thing as calling every single move & jutsu in that game canon which just isn't true.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

No the game is giving him moves that he's never shown or has been known to possess.

There are things created for games, that are exclusive to games. Calling shisui's susanoo canon is the exact same thing as calling every single move & jutsu in that game canon which just isn't true.

There is no jutsu Shisui's known to posses other than KA and body flicker. This is the closes thing of a view of Shisui's powers as we'll get.

 

[Nebula]

He has a drill hand hahahaha.

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

So if Kishi designed this Susano'o for Shisui, then does that mean its possible to awaken Susano'o without having amaterasu and Tsukuyomi? Kishi created Shisui to have Susano'o, and he does not have those techniques. I guess Sasuke could possibly not have Tsukuyomi and just Enton.

If this is true, then Kishi reconned the idea from just those powers to the double Mangekyō.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

So if Kishi designed this Susano'o for Shisui, then does that mean its possible to awaken Susano'o without having amaterasu and Tsukuyomi? Kishi created Shisui to have Susano'o, and he does not have those techniques. I guess Sasuke could possibly not have Tsukuyomi and just Enton.

If this is true, then Kishi reconned the idea from just those powers to the double Mangekyō.

It was never a retcon,the DB that described having Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu to unlock Susanoo is just outdated.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

So if Kishi designed this Susano'o for Shisui, then does that mean its possible to awaken Susano'o without having amaterasu and Tsukuyomi? Kishi created Shisui to have Susano'o, and he does not have those techniques. I guess Sasuke could possibly not have Tsukuyomi and just Enton.

If this is true, then Kishi reconned the idea from just those powers to the double Mangekyō.

Sasuke does have Tsukuyomi, he just doesn't use it as much, he prefers Burning everything down thats in is way.

Also who's to say Shisui doesn't have amaterasu or Tsukuyomi. Madara has susanoo but has never been seen using Amaterasu OR tsukuyomi

 

[Draphsin]

There is no jutsu Shisui's known to posses other than KA and body flicker. This is the closes thing of a view of Shisui's powers as we'll get.

No it's not this is kishi giving shisui something extra for the game so his character isn't gimped.

This isn't the "closest thing" to shisui's powers, it's just something kishi created as a treat to shisui fans, they gave him a video game exclusive move.

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According to your logic muu can do everything shown in that moveset, which means he gets doton, golems, & has the ability to crush his opponent with two jintons simultaneously.

Point being that the game amps up a characters abilities, but it doesn't make those abilities canon otherwise we'd have people pulling video game feats into debates which is just absolutely ridiculous..

 

[Sennin of Logic]

No it's not this is kishi giving shisui something extra for the game so his character isn't gimped.

This isn't the "closest thing" to shisui's powers, it's just something kishi created as a treat to shisui fans, they gave him a video game exclusive move.

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According to your logic muu can do everything shown in that moveset, which means he gets doton, golems, & has the ability to crush his opponent with two jintons simultaneously.

Point being that the game amps up a characters abilities, but it doesn't make those abilities canon otherwise we'd have people pulling video game feats into debates which is just absolutely ridiculous..

Muu's abilities are established, Shisui's are not. I'm not dealing with an absolute that what's in the game is absolute. For instance, I don't take hype into consideration. If Shisui's susanoo is a mountain buster, I'm still just going to count it as an ordinary susanoo.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Even if it's not canon and only exclusive to the game, I think Shisui's Susanoo looks pretty awesome.

 

[Draphsin]

Muu's abilities are established, Shisui's are not. I'm not dealing with an absolute that what's in the game is absolute. For instance, I don't take hype into consideration. If Shisui's susanoo is a mountain buster, I'm still just going to count it as an ordinary susanoo.

I guess you didn't completely get my muu example.

According to the manga muu cannot use jinton while split. [

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This means that the game contradicted the manga by amping up muu's abilities.

I'm not taking a game that contradicts the manga as a canon fact, even if kishi was the one behind the designs that doesn't mean those designs are following his story.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I guess you didn't completely get my muu example.

According to the manga muu cannot use jinton while split. [

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This means that the game contradicted the manga by amping up muu's abilities.

I'm not taking a game that contradicts the manga as a canon fact, even if kishi was the one behind the designs that doesn't mean those designs are following his story.

It doesn't, but it's either this, or obscurity. In any case, if I where making a top 20, I'd probably include shisui(storm).

 

[Draphsin]

It doesn't, but it's either this, or obscurity. In any case, if I where making a top 20, I'd probably include shisui(storm).

I'd rather obscurity than give him abilities that he's not confirmed to possess, that's like putting prime hiruzen on your list. o_o

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Sasuke does have Tsukuyomi, he just doesn't use it as much, he prefers Burning everything down thats in is way.

Also who's to say Shisui doesn't have amaterasu or Tsukuyomi. Madara has susanoo but has never been seen using Amaterasu OR tsukuyomi

Shisui and Sasuke do not and I repeat do not have Tsukiyomi.Neither does Madara,every MS user has different powers and not every one is the same.Shisui had Kotoamatsukami in both eyes therefore he does'nt have Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I'd rather obscurity than give him abilities that he's not confirmed to possess, that's like putting prime hiruzen on your list. o_o

Opposite actually. Prime Hiruzen being the strongest hokage flat-out doesn't exist. What I'd attribute to prime-Hiruzen is the abilities he's displayed with better stamina. However, prime Hiruzen is obscure, even if Shisui's susanoo is not to be considered even semi-canon, it's something to go by instead of just "shisui was powersful"

 

[adeshina365]

Interesting, but it's not canon.

 

[-Spoiler-]

Probably because its made for game only its even in bold smh. selective reading

 

[BlacLord™]

Shisui was beat easily because:

a) He never knew about Danzo's Sharingan and by extension, his Izanagi usage.
b) Tying in with a, he was caught off off-guard.
c) Tying in with a, Danzo set up Izanagi so that Shisui would be hit in the stomach straight away.
Most importantly:

d) A strong punch to the gut is a sure-fire way to disable someone meaning that anyone would end up the same way in that scenario.

 

[Jack Spicer]

That's awesome.

 

[Draphsin]

Even if Shisui's susanoo is not to be considered even semi-canon, it's something to go by instead of just "shisui was powersful"

But what I'm saying is that it's incorrect to go by that source because that same source has contradicted the manga.

 

[EKSITE]

But what I'm saying is that it's incorrect to go by that source because that same source has contradicted the manga.

Dude to this day even the manga contradicts itself countless & countless of times i'll give it you animation does contradict manga alot more the timeline events and all don't match techinques that were supposedly unbeatable became beatable like obito stated a world of lies lmao, but i give the susanoo some what creditably because kishimoto created it himself .