I told you the black orbs weren't omnyoudon.....

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So many butthurt people in this thread trying to save face with insults Lol

Pretty much Lol

 

[BlinkST]

This cleared up some confusion for me.

 

[KingHashirama]

He applies omyuddon to the black orbs. X_X

 

[Yahcob13]

You were totally correct.

 

[Behemoth55]

I said it long ago

I said it long ago that the black orbs were not omnyoudon.

And that's completely wrong. Gudōdama is a Jutsu which base on the Seishitsuhenka Onmyōton.

Onmyōton: Onmyō is the yin yang element. Seishitsuhenka with this nature is called Onmyōton, the Yin-Yang-Release.
This element is based on the concurrent use of Inton and Yōton.

Examples for Jutsu which base on that Seishitsuhenka:

Banbutsu Sōzō; Izanagi, Gudōdama

And Madara created Zetsu with Onmyōton too.

What's Seishitsuhenka again?

It's used to change the element(Seishitsu) of chakra, and influence so the basic qualities. To let accept the Chakra to one element, the Shinobi has to apply Seishitsuhenka.
Every element owns special qualities which it predestines for certain uses.


Gudōdama is a Ninjutsu, which has accepted the basic qualities of yin and yang.

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

I remember reading a theory saying they are not the same thing and the English translation is truth seeking ball(from the wikia)

 

[FlemSmack]

So your saying that the black orbs are just balls of chakra, and when you manipulate their shape it becomes omnyoudon?

You proved that the black orbs are not normally omnyoudon, because when Obito used it to defend against Naruto and Sasuke's amaterasu rasenshuriken it physically pushed the amaterasu away instead of deleting it.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

No one really cares what you predicted to be honest. Stop being such an egotistical child.

Actually, you're incorrect, there are people that do. You're the one that's egotistical. The fact that you feel the need to put someone down implies a threatened pride.

 

[Apêx1]

Actually, you're incorrect, there are people that do. You're the one that's egotistical. The fact that you feel the need to put someone down implies a threatened pride.

We have a psychologist here! Why would someone care what someone else predicted. Several people have already told you that it doesn't matter. Having the courage to actually create a thread just to show your 'superiority' towards others in regards to predictions also implies a need for attention. Nothing in my post was egotistical. Lets recite some of the things you have said

They're just mad that they're wrong.

It's because they've been wrong all this time when I've been right all this time. They don't like the fact that I've confirmed that I was right and confronted them about it. So now they're trying to defuse their hurt pride by calling me egotistical, which is ludicrous since, well, why would they be upset about this unless their egos have been hurt by this new revelation. So they try to diffuse it with a fake sense of morality when it reality, it's just a tool to shield themselves from the truth and comfort themselves.

It's a universal fact that no one likes being confronted that they were wrong, so they're deflecting it by attacking me.

Demonstrate that I was right all this time and you guys were hasty in selecting manga fact. That is all.

More please. Saying you weren't egotistical and arrogant is laughable. Threatened pride? Please, you must be naive if you think a sentence on the internet can actually infer a persons characteristics in real life lmao. Putting people down and telling people how you feel openly are two different things. You can either take it positively or negatively. It having actually put you down would show that you care too much of what others think, which isn't ideal and actually can be implied, unlike yours.

 

[Avani 🥉]

Actually, you're incorrect, there are people that do. You're the one that's egotistical. The fact that you feel the need to put someone down implies a threatened pride.

We have a psychologist here! Why would someone care what someone else predicted. Several people have already told you that it doesn't matter. Having the courage to actually create a thread just to show your 'superiority' towards others in regards to predictions also implies a need for attention. Nothing in my post was egotistical. Lets recite some of the things you have said

More please. Saying you weren't egotistical and arrogant is laughable. Threatened pride? Please, you must be naive if you think a sentence on the internet can actually infer a persons characteristics in real life lmao. Putting people down and telling people how you feel openly are two different things. You can either take it positively or negatively. It having actually put you down would show that you care too much of what others think, which isn't ideal and actually can be implied, unlike yours.

I hope we are done with psychoanalysis for today. Please keep it on topic from now or put each other on ignore list.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I hope we are done with psychoanalysis for today. Please keep it on topic from now or put each other on ignore list.

Fine by me. I didn't bring up the egotistical war in the first place.

 

[Vegeto30294]

We say one thing is manga fact until it's retconned.

People said Sasuke couldn't use Susano'o. Then he used Susano'o.

People said Kakashi couldn't go blind with the Sharingan, then he goes nearly blind.

People said Minato was the original inventor of the FTG, then Tobirama retcons it.

People said Hiruzen couldn't use all 5 chakra natures, then he uses it.

People said Orochimaru isn't coming back, then he comes back.

Need me to continue?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

We say one thing is manga fact until it's retconned.

People said Sasuke couldn't use Susano'o. Then he used Susano'o.

People said Kakashi couldn't go blind with the Sharingan, then he goes nearly blind.

People said Minato was the original inventor of the FTG, then Tobirama retcons it.

People said Hiruzen couldn't use all 5 chakra natures, then he uses it.

People said Orochimaru isn't coming back, then he comes back.

Need me to continue?

I see what you're saying, and it'd be a valid point if it weren't for the fact that there was no statement saying the black orbs were omnyoudon in the first place. It was just an assumption everyone made.

 

[Behemoth55]

I see what you're saying, and it'd be a valid point if it weren't for the fact that there was no statement saying the black orbs were omnyoudon in the first place. It was just an assumption everyone made.

What?

Minato got hit with Gudōdama and the reason why he can't regenerate is because that Senjutsu base on the Seishitsuhenka Onmyōton. Approved by Tobirama Senju.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Excellent thread OP, but you was not the only one who stated it.

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However Still I will give you credit, where credit is due.

+ rep for you, and great respect for comming with it before me, even although gap is very small

 

[Booker]

Wrong, they are the same thing, only applied differently.

Gudo-dama is made of Onymoudon.

By your logic, Dragon Flame Bombs and Grand Fireball are not both made of fire since they have different names.

 

[Darkas]

I see what you're saying, and it'd be a valid point if it weren't for the fact that there was no statement saying the black orbs were omnyoudon in the first place. It was just an assumption everyone made.

I suggest you read the Viz translations as if I am not mistaken you're going by a unconfirmed translation.