[Discussion] Sasuke and Naruto have Surpassed Hashirama

[accept pain]

can we atleast say this now? what is your humble opinion?

 

[Rizengan01]

By leaps and bounds.

 

[Flakez]

They did by a large margin.

 

[saw2097]

Hashirama is ancient history, Naruto and Sasuke are in their own league.

 

[Tobi98]

Yeah, I hope some of this power ups are temporary

 

[Zoids]

Who dat?

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[LUMOS ULTIMATUM]

Yeah, I hope some of this power ups are temporary

None of these are temporary. Sasuke's eye is permanent and Naruto will die if the bijuus are extracted.

 

[Its sasukebase]

Yeah, I hope some of this power ups are temporary

this i dont like naruto or sasuke new powers

 

[Tobi98]

None of these are temporary. Sasuke's eye is permanent and Naruto will die if the bijuus are extracted.

He can stay with the bijuus but that all Rikudou mode part I'd like if it was temporary

this i dont like naruto or sasuke new powers

I like them but they are just too OP

 

[saw2097]

He can stay with the bijuus but that all Rikudou mode part I'd like if it was temporary



I like them but they are just too OP

Those abilities are part of being their Jin, the Black balls are the Ten Tails power and now that he has all 9 tailed beasts.

Besides that would be pointless to take them away, its the end of the manga, only two fight remain: the battle against Madara and the battle between Naruto and Sasuke.

Plus there was all the build up to getting them, its standard in Shounen for the hero and the rival to be the strongest in the end.


Also its been beaten into the ground that Naruto and Sasuke would surpass Hashirama and Madara, this is the fulfillment of that.

 

[Golden Sage Jinchuuriki]

Most definitely

 

[Tobi98]

Those abilities are part of being their Jin, the Black balls are the Ten Tails power and now that he has all 9 tailed beasts.

Besides that would be pointless to take them away, its the end of the manga, only two fight remain: the battle against Madara and the battle between Naruto and Sasuke.

Plus there was all the build up to getting them, its standard in Shounen for the hero and the rival to be the strongest in the end.


Also its been beaten into the ground that Naruto and Sasuke would surpass Hashirama and Madara, this is the fulfillment of that.

No the black balls come from what Rikudou gave him, for him to gain the black balls alone he would need to have the Gedou Mazou so that he could be a pre juubi jin

Yeah but I wasn't expecting the part of surpassing Hashi and Madara to be through power ups and by you know... training...

 

[saw2097]

No the black balls come from what Rikudou gave him, for him to gain the black balls alone he would need to have the Gedou Mazou so that he could be a pre juubi jin

Yeah but I wasn't expecting the part of surpassing Hashi and Madara to be through power ups and by you know... training...

It was stated by Madara that Naruto got his mastery of Senjutsu from the Sage, the sage just revived the TB inside Naruto and gave him a mastery over Senjutsu mainly.

Madara got his power from killing someone close and taking his brothers eyes just like Sasuke did, and later taking Hashirama's DNA and the Ten Tails.

We don't even know how Hashirama got his power.

 

[Tobi98]

It was stated by Madara that Naruto got his mastery of Senjutsu from the Sage, the sage just revived the TB inside Naruto and gave him a mastery over Senjutsu mainly.

Madara got his power from killing someone close and taking his brothers eyes just like Sasuke did, and later taking Hashirama's DNA and the Ten Tails.

We don't even know how Hashirama got his power.

Yeah but still getting so OP just because the Sage felt like it is a little... meh

 

[saw2097]

Yeah but still getting so OP just because the Sage felt like it is a little... meh

He didn't give it to them because he felt like it, the sage watched his kids kill each other over and over again for generations, and now the world is about to be destroyed.

Also it seems there is something going on with the Sage's mother.

And if you recall, the reason he gave them this power wasn't just to stop Madara, it was to make the world a better place like he originally trusted Ashura and Indra to do.

 

[Tobi98]

He didn't give it to them because he felt like it, the sage watched his kids kill each other over and over again for generations, and now the world is about to be destroyed.

Also it seems there is something going on with the Sage's mother.

And if you recall, the reason he gave them this power wasn't just to stop Madara, it was to make the world a better place like he originally trusted Ashura and Indra to do.

I know I know but do you think it's fair?

 

[WalksInShadows]

Naruto may have most definitely surpassed Hashirama, but i haven't seen a thing from Sasuke that says he did as well. The only thing he did in the chapter was show off the new eye and bark as usual. I still remember a time where ppl wrote him in Madara's league just because he had EMS, and that was thoroughly proven otherwise.

 

[Tolunay]

Of course Man
I mean Hashi was disappointing
he and the other kae got fodderised by Madara

 

[Rizengan01]

Naruto may have most definitely surpassed Hashirama, but i haven't seen a thing from Sasuke that says he did as well. The only thing he did in the chapter was show off the new eye and bark as usual. I still remember a time where ppl wrote him in Madara's league just because he had EMS, and that was thoroughly proven otherwise.

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At the very least, Sasuke fodderized the Chakra Rods that restrained Hashirama.

 

[Lostdreams]

Well Naruto surpassed him even before the power-ups....HAVE YOU GUYS NOT SEEN THE WAR ARC?!?!?!

Sasuke is now caught up to naruto.
Sasuke and naruto are currently completely equals and Hashirama is now a mere afterthought in how strong they are.