I really wish for just once...

[take it easy]

You cannot really say if that is because of his strong chakra gained from Kurama or not.

need proof?

 

[Shinato]

need proof?

Though you cannot prove it. To do that you will need a scan of Naruto using at least 10 Kagebushin's prior to having Kurama sealed within him.

 

[take it easy]

Though you cannot prove it. To do that you will need a scan of Naruto using at least 10 Kagebushin's prior to having Kurama sealed within him.

i can give scans where naruto used 10 bunshins with spoiled seal.

 

[Shinato]

i can give scans where naruto used 10 bunshins with spoiled seal.

Regardless, Minato made it so that Kurama's and Naruto's chakra would mix naturally. The spoiled seal just ruined his chakra control by over flowing it.

 

[take it easy]

Regardless, Minato made it so that Kurama's and Naruto's chakra would mix naturally. The spoiled seal just ruined his chakra control by over flowing it.

1. here naruto used bunshins

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2. jiraya comment about kurama's and naruto's chakra

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[saw2097]

There are countless stories where the hero gets power from something else:

Legend of Zelda: Link gets a Magic sword and magic items

Highschool DxD: Main character has a legendary Dragon inside him which has the power to kill god

Eragon: He gets his power from a Dragon

Spiderman: He got his power from being bitten by a spider

Captain America: He got his power from a super soldier formula

The Hulk: From a Gamma Radiation accident

Ben 10: He gets his powers from a Alien Device

I could go on but I think you get the point.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

His chakra is a natural mix of both his own and Kurama's. Naruto is also unable to preform Rasenshuriken further without the use of Sage Mode or Kurama's Chakra Mode.

Thank you for making my point. Naruto was given Kurama from birth and had no control over the seal. Blaming his skills just for Kurama's chakra is the same as blaming his lineage. The same as blaming the sharingan or any other kekkei genki shinobi are born with.

Regardless, Minato made it so that Kurama's and Naruto's chakra would mix naturally. The spoiled seal just ruined his chakra control by over flowing it.

Incorrect. It blocked off Kurama's chakra, which was its purpose.

 

[FatherOfMurder]

Kaguya: fruit.
Sasuke: ITachi's eyes
Itachi: Shisui's eye
Madara: Izuna's eyes, Hashirama DNA
Kakashi: Obito's eye
Obito: Madara's eye, hashirama DNA
Nagato: Madara`s eyes
Orochimaru: thousands of experiements on himself, hashi DNA
Kabuto: Orochimaru`s powers, Hashi DNA
yamato: hashi dna

your point?

 

[Shinato]

Incorrect. It blocked off Kurama's chakra, which was its purpose.

Okay, then that is incorrect, I give up there. But didn't Orochimaru place that seal upon Naruto? ( Or are my memory messing with yet again? )

 

[NaruSasuRival]

I think your concern is legit, but you are also showing some misunderstanding about Naruto.

First, not everybody can use the power of the biju the way naruto is using - that is stay in human form to make a bijudama, or spam any amount of Kyuubi chakra while keeping your body the same. This is also Naruto's own power, meaning he has the body that is a perfect vessel for any type of chakra.

Second, Naruto is currently using his own power, and I will prove it in a very long thread with evidence from the manga. Going straight to the conclusion, my claim is that naruto had always had two source of Biju chakra: (1) from Kyuubi, and (2) from himself with the evidence being the six line on his face. For now, I cannot tell you if that chakra was from Kushina or Kyuubi, but fact is that naruto will have biju chakra even if he does not have a biju. Right now, the BSM eyes Naruto has is from his own biju chakra (2), and I will confirm this tomorrow if the current spoiler is true.

Next, only people who bet everything on KKG will actually not understand Naruto's power. Unlike those who are born with KKG that give automatic jutsus, others need to learn formula for their jutsus. All the student in the academy included Sasuke learnt their clan signature jutsus from their parents. Naruto who did not have any parent couldn't learn any of both his parent techniques. Thus, no matter how proficient he is, and no matter how much chakra he has, he will only use the little he was given or he stole - Kage bushin and Rasengan. These two jutsus are the certificate of Naruto's own power, and show that he can actually do any type of jutsu because they demonstrate massive chakra and ability to perform the most difficult shape manipulation. In case you have doubt, the lava FRS will demonstrate that Naruto can create any combination of chakra nature without difficulty. Some people are saying that it is because of Son Goku, but in the wrong way. Son Goku only gave naruto the formula to do the nature transformation that gives lava. However, Naruto is the one combining the different nature element to create the lava. In fact, I have predicted that Naruto will become Rikudo whether people like it or not, and this will start by mastering all the jutsus of each individual Biju.

Oh wait: In my opinion, mokuton is not a KKG, and Lava still is not a KKG because anyone with load of chakra and good control can make them. Just see Naruto do Mokuton if someone gives him the formula. For example, Bijudama is a mixture of 8:2 dark and bright chakra. Naruto created Bijudama by himself after Killer Bee gave him the ratio.

 

[SuperChief]

Naruto is the one having to do fighting and controlling the bijū, OP.

Also, Gai didn't stomp shit. If you seriously think Madara wasn't kidding around and testing the waters as far as his godly powers go, you are kidding yourself.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Okay, then that is incorrect, I give up there. But didn't Orochimaru place that seal upon Naruto? ( Or are my memory messing with yet again? )

Yes, it was Orochimaru in the forest of death. Jiraiya removed it.

 

[assface3]

I agree. He's been too reliant on them in Shippuden and it's really making his character look mediocre, imo.

 

[Floydical]

SM alone solos 95% of Shinobi out there.

/thread

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

So, basically you want Naruto to be like Goku and be strong with his own power?

Clearly you forgot that Goku won all of his main battles using borrowed power ( spirit bomb)

1) Vegeta
2) Used it against frieza
3) beat kid buu with it

Lol, if you consider the most recent movie canon then Goku is the definiton of borrowed power or did you forget the handholding scene where he became a god?

 

[Champ]

Yeah. Kishi said fck him learning anything about the Uzumaki clan

 

[Sakura Bunny]

dat KakaSaku...

 

[vasu 32]

Almost all power in the narutoverse ( at least extremely strong power) can be considered as "borrowed" besides hashiramas/kaguya.

Correction - *besides Jubi.

 

[xXVergiliusXx]

Goku was helped by King Kai, Piccolo, Bulma's father, those instant transmission aliens, the hyperbolic time chamber and Vegeta.

And all the people from earth a couple of times and once from many places in the universe ( tho that wasn't cannon)

anyway goku still is awesome