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That Naruto could be THAT powerful, as powerful as he is now, without the need of tailed beasts.

I get that naruto is all about the power of friends and blah blah. But I just wish that his power was 100 percent his own, and somehow owns madara with his own abilities. At the very least I hope it ends with naruto on the ropes and using only his own powers to beat him.


Hashirama was hugely powerful and wasn't using any outside source, yet we are to believe that he's surpassing him without tailed beasts and etc inside him...


I dunno, just makes me a little sad about it.

Examples of people using their own power and are awesome. If not comparing them to gods.

Gai(stomped a juubi jin madara) Lee, the raikages. etc.
 
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Almost all power in the narutoverse ( at least extremely strong power) can be considered as "borrowed" besides hashiramas/kaguya.
 

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As much as a badass he is now...I agree. It would be so awesome if he could genuinely be the strongest ninja without anyone helping him. Kinda like Goku :p
 

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If you look at the popular mangas, most of them feature a character who has to rise against the odds, isn't born with a silver spoon in their mouths, and isn't the most powerful character without the help of others. Nobody wants to read about a "tony stark" character... which makes it funny cause Iron Man is a popular series...

Offtopic: your strange fascination with kakashi x sakura disturbs me.... o_O
 

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i agree with the OP

i just wish to see naruto's power without tailed beasts
 

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Almost all power in the narutoverse ( at least extremely strong power) can be considered as "borrowed" besides hashiramas/kaguya.

hashirama was just another reincarnation of ashura though, so technically his power would be borrowed too
 

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As much as a badass he is now...I agree. It would be so awesome he could genuinely be the strongest ninja without anyone helping him.

I mean he's pretty good without it, sage mode and all but... No where near the top 3 or maybe even top 5.
 

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I dont mind him having borrowed powers.
 

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That Naruto could be THAT powerful, as powerful as he is now, without the need of tailed beasts.

Madara's power isn't all his either. It's derived from Hashirama and Hagoromo like Naruto's and Sasuke's.

I get that naruto is all about the power of friends and blah blah. But I just wish that his power was 100 percent his own, and somehow owns madara with his own abilities. At the very least I hope it ends with naruto on the ropes and using only his own powers to beat him.

Naruto has been training and using his own power almost the whole series.


Hashirama was hugely powerful and wasn't using any outside source, yet we are to believe that he's surpassing him without tailed beasts and etc inside him...

Technically, Hashirama uses senjutsu, which IS an outside source, though he did train to learn how to.
 

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Thread number 34378.

Tailed Beasts function best with a host, Naruto's main attribute from the beginning was being a Jinchuriki, him being the host of all 9 Biju is perfect for him, what would be the point of defeating Madara with his "own power"?
 

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hashirama was just another reincarnation of ashura though, so technically his power would be borrowed too

Yeah but I don't think he was receiving that chakra like Naruto and sasuke just did. unless the sage came to them too like that. but it was never said.
 

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Thread number 34378.

Tailed Beasts function best with a host, Naruto's main attribute from the beginning was being a Jinchuriki, him being the host of all 9 Biju is perfect for him, what would be the point of defeating Madara with his "own power"?

Being awesome?
 

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As much as a badass he is now...I agree. It would be so awesome if he could genuinely be the strongest ninja without anyone helping him. Kinda like Goku :p

Goku was helped by King Kai, Piccolo, Bulma's father, those instant transmission aliens, the hyperbolic time chamber and Vegeta.
 
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I see your point- but personally I could care less.

Buu fights with stolen powers
Alucard fights with stolen powers
Aizen fights with stolen powers
Batman fights with stolen powers etc.... There are manyany more.

Perhaps it's because of all the different fiction I read but I could care less about where a power comes from.
I suppose if it really bothers you- you could ways take some peace with the fact that power alone doesn't win fights- you need at least some skill to use that power.

Basically, even if naruto fought using biju chakra- it's still impressive because very few people have the skill to use biju chakra like naruto does.
 

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Goku was helped by King Kai, Bulma's father, those instant transmission aliens and the hyperbolic time chamber.

Except those are things he LEARNED and TRAINED to achieve. Instead of poof now you have tailed beasts in you. Sage mode and kage bunshin and his various rasengan styles are his own powers.
 

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Being awesome?

If you consider getting one of the most powerful powerups in the manga then not using it to defeat the main villain awesome, then sure. But for every person who thinks that would be awesome, there would be one that doesn't.
 

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Goku was helped by King Kai, Bulma's father, those instant transmission aliens and the hyperbolic time chamber.

...they taught him those stuff and he trained extremely hard to get to his level. He's not using their power. He doesn't have another being inside him making him stronger. It's OK to have a teacher..otherwise you won't got strong at all.
 
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