[VS] Simple BASE Sasuke versus BASE Naruto

[Dannie]

Location: war battlefield

Distance: 120m

Intel: from manga

Restrictions: No Sharingan of ANY kind, no SM, no Kyubi of ANY kind, no CS, but they are both allowed to use their summoning's, such as Aoda, Gamabunta and Sasuke's hawk.

Who wins?

EDIT: They are bloodlusted and OC.

 

[WreckRolled]

sasuke low diff

 

[paratise]

Sasuke i think...

Snake>Toad, fireballs would help clearing clones, CQC is on Sasuke's favor due to kenjutsu, nagashi and speed, also more intellect and use hawk to use long range attacks over sky.

 

[Latios]

Naruto wins, he can just summon Ma and ask her to summon all of Mount Myoboku

 

[Draphsin]

Base sasuke outspeeds base naruto by a good margin.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Sasuke mid-difficulty.

He has better summonings, he can use Aoda for offensive against Bunta and other toads can be countered with smaller snakes. Rasenshuriken won't hit firstly because he has limited amount of time he can use it and secondly he can summon a hawk to prevent damage.

Kage Bunshin is useless. He can only combat on ground, and since he'd divide his Chakra into so many different parts he can't use Rasenshuriken at all. Aoda also can just eat a portion of them easily.

Sasuke uses his Katon to counter Suiton from toads, and if by any chance they use oil, it won't hit and fall on the ground. Then he can ignite it with a small fire, that is only disadvantageous to Naruto who is at ground. He prepares Kirin, and bombards the whole terrain.

I don't see Naruto beating Sasuke in base, not in manga nor remotely.​

 

[Latios]

Sasuke mid-difficulty.

He has better summonings, he can use Aoda for offensive against Bunta and other toads can be countered with smaller snakes. Rasenshuriken won't hit firstly because he has limited amount of time he can use it and secondly he can summon a hawk to prevent damage.

Kage Bunshin is useless. He can only combat on ground, and since he'd divide his Chakra into so many different parts he can't use Rasenshuriken at all. Aoda also can just eat a portion of them easily.

Sasuke uses his Katon to counter Suiton from toads, and if by any chance they use oil, it won't hit and fall on the ground. Then he can ignite it with a small fire, that is only disadvantageous to Naruto who is at ground. He prepares Kirin, and bombards the whole terrain.

I don't see Naruto beating Sasuke in base, not in manga nor remotely.​

Better summonings? ***** please, Naruto can practically summon all of Mount Myoboku by summoning Ma and asking her to summon them.

What the hell? Since when did making a ton of shadow clones prevent Naruto from doing Rasen-Shuriken? Have you ever heard of being an Uzumaki?

This one makes me laugh, Katon isn't doing shit to Suiton have you ever heard of elemental weaknesses? If Sasuke decides to use Katon on toad oil it will just boost the toad oil's power making his death faster. Sasuke can't prep Kirin without Amaterasu.

 

[Apêx1]

Sasuke mid-difficulty.

He has better summonings, he can use Aoda for offensive against Bunta and other toads can be countered with smaller snakes. Rasenshuriken won't hit firstly because he has limited amount of time he can use it and secondly he can summon a hawk to prevent damage.

Kage Bunshin is useless. He can only combat on ground, and since he'd divide his Chakra into so many different parts he can't use Rasenshuriken at all. Aoda also can just eat a portion of them easily.

Sasuke uses his Katon to counter Suiton from toads, and if by any chance they use oil, it won't hit and fall on the ground. Then he can ignite it with a small fire, that is only disadvantageous to Naruto who is at ground. He prepares Kirin, and bombards the whole terrain.

I don't see Naruto beating Sasuke in base, not in manga nor remotely.​

What's this.. He doesn't have better summonings. Naruto summons Ma and Pa who reverse summon Toads from Mt. Myokubo. That's Gamahiro, Gamaken, Gamabunta and Gamakichi. 6 Toads with good synergy vs Sasuke Aoda and Hawk. More so, Gamakichi, Ma and Pa all demonstrated their ability to use SM. The snakes are by far outclassed and are killed within seconds.

Naruto doesn't use FRS outside of SM in the first place due to the harm it causes to his own body.
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Sasuke uses his Katon to counter Suiton from Toads.. Go on, you're on fire with this shitt. "If by any chance they use oil, it won't hit." Please dude, Go ONNNN! "then he can start a campfire which will somehow effect Naruto" Now he can prepare Kirin with a campfire. Last I checked it required an Uchiha fortress filled with Amateratsu to create the correct conditions, but now regular camp fires can do this.

Naruto isn't necessarily the one beating him, it's the toads that do it. Frog call paralyses snakes and Sasuke. 4 Toads stall long enough for frog genjutsu to occur. Gamkichi strength in SM will be too much for Aoda to handle. Hawk gets sniped by water bullet and it's not being countered with its own counter, fire. Sasuke loses low mid diff with Naruto's summons.

 

[Haizaki]

Naruto wins

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many shadow clones like that added with summonings would be too much for sasuke

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Base naruto has no long range attacks, so he can't hit sasuke on a hawk.

 

[SuperChief]

I'm pretty sure we've seen Naruto use FRS outside of SM.

He wins this either way. He's got the superior summons and a more dangerous skill set to accommodate his tactics.

 

[BlacLord™]

Sasuke mid-diff.

I don't know how many times this must be repeated:

Large summons aren't used unless either one of these scenarios occur:


1) The person in question is falling from a great height.
2) The person in question's opponent has summoned something large.
3) The person in question's opponent is just large.


Neither of them are summoning their entire summoning arsenal, that's just plain ridiculous.

The only real problem posed by Naruto is Kage Bunshins, to which Sasuke's Katons counter anyway. Naruto can't use Rasenshuriken outside of SM/or one of the KMs yet Sasuke can still use Kirin.

Plus, he has Kenjutsu, Chidori Senbon/Spear, small snake summons and his Bukijutsu skills too. Base Naruto has a 26.5 in the databooks and Base Sauce has 31.5.

 

[Optimistic]

Sasuke mid-diff.

I don't know how many times this must be repeated:

Large summons aren't used unless either one of these scenarios occur:


1) The person in question is falling from a great height.
2) The person in question's opponent has summoned something large.
3) The person in question's opponent is just large.


Neither of them are summoning their entire summoning arsenal, that's just plain ridiculous.

All of this would make sense if the OP clarified if they're IC or OC.

 

[Misconception]

Naruto wins

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many shadow clones like that added with summonings would be too much for sasuke

This made me L0l... You realize that Sasuke is used to fighting Naruto and his clones right??? Manda and Aoda>Naruto summonings...Also if im correct Sasuke already speedblitz Base Naruto beyond belief during their first shippuden meeting i don't see what's stopping him from doing so this time...

I'm pretty here we've seen Naruto use FRS outside of SM.

He wins this either way. He's got the superior summons and a more dangerous skill set to accommodate his tactics.

Manga scan please ill wait... Manda took on Katsuya Gamabunta and Tsunade alone... With the help from Aoda they'll easily crush Naruto summonings and be back in time to help Sasuke defeat Naruto...

 

[Conspirator.]

sasuke wins with no less than mid diff.

 

[Haizaki]

This made me L0l... You realize that Sasuke is used to fighting Naruto and his clones right??? Manda and Aoda>Naruto summonings...Also if im correct Sasuke already speedblitz Base Naruto beyond belief during their first shippuden meeting i don't see what's stopping him from doing so this time...


Manga scan please ill wait... Manda took on Katsuya Gamabunta and Tsunade alone... With the help from Aoda they'll easily crush Naruto summonings and be back in time to help Sasuke defeat Naruto...

Naruto hasn't never fought sasuke with that amount of clones..You also say Manda and Aoda >> Naruto's summoning with no proof
Lool

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Better summonings? ***** please, Naruto can practically summon all of Mount Myoboku by summoning Ma and asking her to summon them.

What the hell? Since when did making a ton of shadow clones prevent Naruto from doing Rasen-Shuriken? Have you ever heard of being an Uzumaki?

This one makes me laugh, Katon isn't doing shit to Suiton have you ever heard of elemental weaknesses? If Sasuke decides to use Katon on toad oil it will just boost the toad oil's power making his death faster. Sasuke can't prep Kirin without Amaterasu.

Yes, I've heard of Uzumaki. Even if he is one, it doesn't mean he can use any technique. Rasenshuriken requires much Chakra. SM Naruto could only fire it up to three times with about 3 clones a time, when he got exhausted afterwards and needed to boost himself up with another portion on natural energy. He can't summon Ma and Pa, it requires a ritual which he doesn't know. A Databook page proved that only Jiraiya so far in the manga has managed to summon them.

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Katon has shown to be able to overpower or stalemate Suiton on multiple occasions. One example so far, is when Madara used a Katon such size it needed at least 10 Suiton users to only stalemate it (

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). Inferior? I think not. Aoda is the same size as Kichi and Bunta, while he possesses a hawk. So yes, he does have the summon upperhand here. Not to mention, Amaterasu can strengthen the air conditions never stated they were necessary. He has attempted to use it before too.​

What's this.. He doesn't have better summonings. Naruto summons Ma and Pa who reverse summon Toads from Mt. Myokubo. That's Gamahiro, Gamaken, Gamabunta and Gamakichi. 6 Toads with good synergy vs Sasuke Aoda and Hawk. More so, Gamakichi, Ma and Pa all demonstrated their ability to use SM. The snakes are by far outclassed and are killed within seconds.

Naruto doesn't use FRS outside of SM in the first place due to the harm it causes to his own body.
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Sasuke uses his Katon to counter Suiton from Toads.. Go on, you're on fire with this shitt. "If by any chance they use oil, it won't hit." Please dude, Go ONNNN! "then he can start a campfire which will somehow effect Naruto" Now he can prepare Kirin with a campfire. Last I checked it required an Uchiha fortress filled with Amateratsu to create the correct conditions, but now regular camp fires can do this.

Naruto isn't necessarily the one beating him, it's the toads that do it. Frog call paralyses snakes and Sasuke. 4 Toads stall long enough for frog genjutsu to occur. Gamkichi strength in SM will be too much for Aoda to handle. Hawk gets sniped by water bullet and it's not being countered with its own counter, fire. Sasuke loses low mid diff with Naruto's summons.

Again, Naruto has no ritual to summon Ma and Pa. Unless you got something to back this up, you have no basis to your argument here. It's like saying Sasuke has access to Manda II - does he even know of it's existence? This also would only leave Naruto with 4 summons, which most likely would kill Aoda but be more than enough for Sasuke to cut with his Eisō. Never stated he needed Amaterasu for Kirin. Most likely, he was waiting for stronger storm conditions and for Itachi to run out of Chakra. Nor was the 'campfire' for that situation - again Sasuke wouldn't be battling on ground. He would ignite every single place until the toads would be in trouble for space. Although I shouldn't respond to the last paragraph, Naruto still does not have access to Ma and Pa.

Next time you two debate, at least research and don't call people stupid when you are yourself. It's very tiring to search for scans.​

 

[Apêx1]

Again, Naruto has no ritual to summon Ma and Pa. Unless you got something to back this up, you have no basis to your argument here. It's like saying Sasuke has access to Manda II - does he even know of it's existence? This also would only leave Naruto with 4 summons, which most likely would kill Aoda but be more than enough for Sasuke to cut with his Eisō. Never stated he needed Amaterasu for Kirin. Most likely, he was waiting for stronger storm conditions and for Itachi to run out of Chakra. Nor was the 'campfire' for that situation - again Sasuke wouldn't be battling on ground. He would ignite every single place until the toads would be in trouble for space. Although I shouldn't respond to the last paragraph, Naruto still does not have access to Ma and Pa.

Next time you two debate, at least research and don't call people stupid when you are yourself. It's very tiring to search for scans.​

No need for a ritual, Naruto=/= Jiraiya. Also, Databook and Kishi say otherwise [

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Your comparison is completely different. He doesn't even know who Manda II is, let alone seen him and fought along with him. You summon the one you choose to summon, if you haven't seen him you cannot possibly call for him to aid you in a battle. Never claimed you stated he needs it, I am saying it is the only way he's ever shown to achieve the correct conditions. He was waiting for the storm conditions, Itachi running out of chakra is irrelevant. However, you need to create storm conditions. Saying Bunta used oil (when he doesn't even have to) for Sasuke to use Katon on is one thing. Saying that Katon will be capable of creating thunderclouds is fallacy. Amateratsu is the only thing shown to have that to this date in the manga. You also claim he will be igniting every place, but how? I already stated Bunta doesn't need to use oil. If you are claiming he's igniting the ground in the battle location than that also isn't possible. Trees are also scarce in that location. He will use a Katon and then it will not be present anymore. Naruto does indeed have access to them, in addition to a SM Toad, and three others that are extremely powerful.
Never called you stupid, nor would I call someone stupid on this site. My opinion shouldn't affect others on the internet as anyone else's opinion doesn't affect me.

 

[paratise]

Come to think of it, if Sasuke uses katon Gamabunta can use oil and return it to Sasuke...

With summons it is more balanced, but wo them i believe Sasuke is more skilled.

 

[Minator93]

Naruto stomps Neg Diff U_U

Naruto summons heavy hitters like Gamabunta, Gamaken, Gamahiro and Gamakichi. Makes shadow clones and fuqs Sasuke up U_U

We also have clear confirmation that Base Naruto can speed-blitz base Sasuke Neg diff.

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Before Sasuke's Kunai could make contact with Sakura, Naruto speedblitzd there, even Kakashi couldn't believe Naruto's speed U_U