Naruto and Sasuke fans on borrowed power

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There's been a lot of threads lately that have been hating on both Sasuke and Naruto. These threads state that both have borrowed powers, and both would be nothing without them. The fact of the matter is both Naruto and Sasuke wretched chosen transmigrants. They are both destined for greatness, and both have worked hard for their powers. People are stating Naruto would've been nothing without Kurama, and Sasuke nothing without Itachis eyes. Both have received power-ups given to them though, wether you like it or not. My point is that what's a shinobi that's been gifted superb powers, if they can't utilize them to their full capability.

I feel that if any other shinobi would've been givin these power boosts they wouldn't have been able to have been able to do what Sasuke and Naruto can do with these powers.

This thread is made to bring Sasuke, and Naruto fans together. Naruto and Sasuke have a mutual enemy, and they're both allies in this war. As fans of the manga we should support them both and come together to agree that taking down Madara is for the greater good. Both Sasuke and Naruto serve as rivals, but not in a bad way. They serve as rivals to help each other grow stronger for the greater good of taking down Madara.

When Masashi Kishimoto first created Naruto he didn't intend for Sasuke to be in it. It was his editor who told him that Naruto would need a rival. In my opinion this is probably the best advice that his editor ever gave him. Without Sasuke the manga wouldn't be where it is today. It would be completely different. It would probably suck. Read the one shot pilot he wrote in 1997 and you'll know what I'm talking about. The manga would've took a completely different direction without Sasuke.

Sasuke without Naruto would also be a completely different shinobi. It was Naruto who help to push him to become stronger. As Sasuke became naturally stronger, Naruto worked 10x harder to become just as strong, because he didn't have the natural talent Sasuke did. Sasuke saw though that Naruto was cpapble of great thongs, and this pushed him.

I say as fans of the manga we should come together. Wether we be Naruto, or Sasuke fans. They both share a common enemy, and both are currently trying to change to world to make it a better place.

Please let's not make this a flame war. It would be great to see a thread about Sasuke, and Naruto where we can all get along and agree with one another.

Share your thoughts on this. It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 

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so... is there going to be a manga today or what? :|
 

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Of course not everyone can use those powers like they can. That's good enough reason for me not to care about their source of power. They're not the first or last characters to have those power-sources. Great post, btw.
 

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Sasuke fans will say that all Naruto has is borrowed power, yet claim EMS is natural progression.

This thread won't help.
 

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every anime involving super human abilities always have borrowed powers or powers they unlocked with the help of something.
 

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This series would honestly suck if there wasn't borrowed power.
 

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Sasuke fans will say that all Naruto has is borrowed power, yet claim EMS is natural progression.

This thread won't help.

Infact it is a Natural progression, 1 have to kill their brother and take the eyes to obtain the eien no mangekyó which Sasuke, did. it is a huge loss for Sasuke and a hard time killing his own brother which grants you with a huge power.

Now for Naruto this is the meaning of borrow:

to take (something, often money) temporarily with the intention of returning it Now Naruto is borrowing Kurama chakra/power, it's not his own it from the beast inside of him, Kurama has to refill his chakra after Naruto used it all,

Sasuke borrowed power once from Orochimaru which is the curse mark it's a temporarily powerup just like kyuubi mode, but when it's gone it's gone {referring to Itachi releasing the curse seal}, Once Kurama is out of Naruto's body he won't be able to use Biju mode.

that's the difference between Sasuke and Naruto.

That's why Naruto even said himself, I'm never fighting alone.
 

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I agree.But most members will either bash Naruto or Sasuke.
 

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I doubt this thread would make any difference.....flame wars all the way (waiting for solo, -sasuke, macho )
OT :both have borrowed powers, but the funny thing is the shinju is the true source of all powers..i wonder why this is so hard to grab
 

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There's been a lot of threads lately that have been hating on both Sasuke and Naruto. These threads state that both have borrowed powers, and both would be nothing without them. The fact of the matter is both Naruto and Sasuke wretched chosen transmigrants. They are both destined for greatness, and both have worked hard for their powers. People are stating Naruto would've been nothing without Kurama, and Sasuke nothing without Itachis eyes. Both have received power-ups given to them though, wether you like it or not. My point is that what's a shinobi that's been gifted superb powers, if they can't utilize them to their full capability.

I feel that if any other shinobi would've been givin these power boosts they wouldn't have been able to have been able to do what Sasuke and Naruto can do with these powers.

This thread is made to bring Sasuke, and Naruto fans together. Naruto and Sasuke have a mutual enemy, and they're both allies in this war. As fans of the manga we should support them both and come together to agree that taking down Madara is for the greater good. Both Sasuke and Naruto serve as rivals, but not in a bad way. They serve as rivals to help each other grow stronger for the greater good of taking down Madara.

When Masashi Kishimoto first created Naruto he didn't intend for Sasuke to be in it. It was his editor who told him that Naruto would need a rival. In my opinion this is probably the best advice that his editor ever gave him. Without Sasuke the manga wouldn't be where it is today. It would be completely different. It would probably suck. Read the one shot pilot he wrote in 1997 and you'll know what I'm talking about. The manga would've took a completely different direction without Sasuke.

Sasuke without Naruto would also be a completely different shinobi. It was Naruto who help to push him to become stronger. As Sasuke became naturally stronger, Naruto worked 10x harder to become just as strong, because he didn't have the natural talent Sasuke did. Sasuke saw though that Naruto was cpapble of great thongs, and this pushed him.

I say as fans of the manga we should come together. Wether we be Naruto, or Sasuke fans. They both share a common enemy, and both are currently trying to change to world to make it a better place.

Please let's not make this a flame war. It would be great to see a thread about Sasuke, and Naruto where we can all get along and agree with one another.

Share your thoughts on this. It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

You are right! Sasuke saved the manga "naruto" :win:
 

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OP, I agree, the manga already stated all chakra comes from the 10 tails, but you won't to be able to bring them together because there are too many haters.

Infact it is a Natural progression, 1 have to kill their brother and take the eyes to obtain the eien no mangekyó which Sasuke, did. it is a huge loss for Sasuke and a hard time killing his own brother which grants you with a huge power.

Now for Naruto this is the meaning of borrow:

to take (something, often money) temporarily with the intention of returning it Now Naruto is borrowing Kurama chakra/power, it's not his own it from the beast inside of him, Kurama has to refill his chakra after Naruto used it all,

Sasuke borrowed power once from Orochimaru which is the curse mark it's a temporarily powerup just like kyuubi mode, but when it's gone it's gone {referring to Itachi releasing the curse seal}, Once Kurama is out of Naruto's body he won't be able to use Biju mode.

that's the difference between Sasuke and Naruto.

That's why Naruto even said himself, I'm never fighting alone.

There is not difference between them. I have never heard Naruto say you will return the chakra he used from the 9 tails. IE: If Naruto creates a FRS out of the 9 tails chakra and use it on an opponent he can't gather that used chakra and give it back to the 9 tails. Once Naruto takes a tails beast chakra and make it his own its his. The same applies to Sasuke.
 

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Also you can say everyone in NV has borrowed power in the form of chakra which was originally juubi's .
 

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I don't mind stealing or taking powers, i like Kabuto, Kakashi, Sasori and Orochimaru.

This destiny crap is irksome though. They should have been rightfully eating the dirth.
 

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Of course not everyone can use those powers like they can. That's good enough reason for me not to care about their source of power. They're not the first or last characters to have those power-sources. Great post, btw.

Hey, thanks man.
 

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Sasuke fans will say that all Naruto has is borrowed power, yet claim EMS is natural progression.

This thread won't help.

This is what I didn't want to happen though. You see when somebody writes a comment like this it causes a chain reaction. This is what I wanted to prevent. Both fans on. Each side have negative things to say. For once I just wanted a thread where fans on each side can come together and get along.
 

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Infact it is a Natural progression, 1 have to kill their brother and take the eyes to obtain the eien no mangekyó which Sasuke, did. it is a huge loss for Sasuke and a hard time killing his own brother which grants you with a huge power.

Now for Naruto this is the meaning of borrow:

to take (something, often money) temporarily with the intention of returning it Now Naruto is borrowing Kurama chakra/power, it's not his own it from the beast inside of him, Kurama has to refill his chakra after Naruto used it all,

Sasuke borrowed power once from Orochimaru which is the curse mark it's a temporarily powerup just like kyuubi mode, but when it's gone it's gone {referring to Itachi releasing the curse seal}, Once Kurama is out of Naruto's body he won't be able to use Biju mode.

that's the difference between Sasuke and Naruto.

That's why Naruto even said himself, I'm never fighting alone.

so killing you brother and taking his eye is natural fapboy logic ladies and gentlemen
 

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Infact it is a Natural progression, 1 have to kill their brother and take the eyes to obtain the eien no mangekyó which Sasuke, did. it is a huge loss for Sasuke and a hard time killing his own brother which grants you with a huge power.

Now for Naruto this is the meaning of borrow:

to take (something, often money) temporarily with the intention of returning it Now Naruto is borrowing Kurama chakra/power, it's not his own it from the beast inside of him, Kurama has to refill his chakra after Naruto used it all,

Sasuke borrowed power once from Orochimaru which is the curse mark it's a temporarily powerup just like kyuubi mode, but when it's gone it's gone {referring to Itachi releasing the curse seal}, Once Kurama is out of Naruto's body he won't be able to use Biju mode.

that's the difference between Sasuke and Naruto.

That's why Naruto even said himself, I'm never fighting alone.
See dude this is what I'm talking about though, each character was born under a ough circumstance. Naruto was shunned for having Kurama, and hated by the villagers. This caused him a lot of pain in his life. While Sasuke had to kill his brother in order to achieve his MS, but up to a certIn point this was Sasukes only goal, until he was further educated on why he had a vengeance towards his brother. Each character had a a major turmoil in their life, each character suffered. This is the point I'm trying to get across.
 

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Infact it is a Natural progression, 1 have to kill their brother and take the eyes to obtain the eien no mangekyó which Sasuke, did. it is a huge loss for Sasuke and a hard time killing his own brother which grants you with a huge power.

Now for Naruto this is the meaning of borrow:

to take (something, often money) temporarily with the intention of returning it Now Naruto is borrowing Kurama chakra/power, it's not his own it from the beast inside of him, Kurama has to refill his chakra after Naruto used it all,

Sasuke borrowed power once from Orochimaru which is the curse mark it's a temporarily powerup just like kyuubi mode, but when it's gone it's gone {referring to Itachi releasing the curse seal}, Once Kurama is out of Naruto's body he won't be able to use Biju mode.

that's the difference between Sasuke and Naruto.

That's why Naruto even said himself, I'm never fighting alone.
See dude this is what I'm talking about though, each character was born under a ough circumstance. Naruto was shunned for having Kurama, and hated by the villagers. This caused him a lot of pain in his life. While Sasuke had to kill his brother in order to achieve his MS, but up to a certIn point this was Sasukes only goal, until he was further educated on why he had a vengeance towards his brother. Each character had a a major turmoil in their life, each character suffered. This is the point I'm trying to get across.
 

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Infact it is a Natural progression, 1 have to kill their brother and take the eyes to obtain the eien no mangekyó which Sasuke, did. it is a huge loss for Sasuke and a hard time killing his own brother which grants you with a huge power.

Now for Naruto this is the meaning of borrow:

to take (something, often money) temporarily with the intention of returning it Now Naruto is borrowing Kurama chakra/power, it's not his own it from the beast inside of him, Kurama has to refill his chakra after Naruto used it all,

Sasuke borrowed power once from Orochimaru which is the curse mark it's a temporarily powerup just like kyuubi mode, but when it's gone it's gone {referring to Itachi releasing the curse seal}, Once Kurama is out of Naruto's body he won't be able to use Biju mode.

that's the difference between Sasuke and Naruto.

That's why Naruto even said himself, I'm never fighting alone.
Perfect example why this argument can't cease to exist^. Justifying their faves but rag on another character, keep trying to convince yourself stealing eyeballs is natural.
 
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