[Theory] sun and moon or .....

[assface3]

It'd parallel with Indra and Ashura's personalities more if it was sun and moon.

 

[ssjelf]

Honestly the only way to know for sure would be confirmation through the manga but unfortunately in the meantime your gonna have people saying "you don't have clouds in a night sky"..... Are you being serious, what planet are you from?

O.T - Now that you have pointed it out, it's kinda hard not to think its a full moon. They are both standing under a CLOUDY NIGHT SKY, with Indra beneath the crescent moon and Ashura under the full moon.

Also as someone stated earlier by another member, the crescent moon represents one who relies only on his power (Alone and never complete) while the full moon represents one who relies on the people around him aswell as himself (acknowledged and full of happiness).

Naruto mentions this a few times throughout the manga, when he felt alone and lost but then he had Iruka, Kakashi, Sakura, Jiraiya etc. that would be there to help him through dark times.

Learn to read, I said you wouldn't see clouds in the night sky. This is true most nights and if you can they sure as hell ain't white.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Has anyone ever thought that maybe Hagoromo and his brother themselves represent dual opposites? Light and Darkness, Yin and Yang.

 

[ssjelf]

Has anyone ever thought that maybe Hagoromo and his brother themselves represent dual opposites? Light and Darkness, Yin and Yang.

No I haven't wanna explain some more haha?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I thought it was obvious to everyone he was the Yin when he spoke intellectually to Naruto.

 

[ssjelf]

I thought it was obvious to everyone he was the Yin when he spoke intellectually to Naruto.

I never really thought about Hagoromos brother too much. The most interesting thin I have seen is someone's theory about how the brother had rinnegan too but he had 2 sons and one had byakugan and the other a strong body like naruto and that was the origins of the hyuuga and uzumaki clans. And that uzumaki and hyuuga genes could combine and form rinnegan as well or something akin to that. Sorry I cant remeber who posted it. But that theory in a way is dead knowing that it takes ashura and Indra chakra for runner an not just senju and uchiha. Other than that I haven't though too hard about the sages brother.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Look at the panel with the Sage and his brother, the Jūbi's eye and head are tilted and fixated towards the Brother.

 

[AaaaNinja]

and now it seems that they are both moons, one a crescent moon and one a full moon. and i’m wondering what the significance of this is? is it a similar sort of yin/yang concept or is it something different? because they are both represented by moons but just in different stages of its cycle. is it supposed to mean that ashura’s is “full” because he has accepted other people and love into his life?

and then the senju clan or well at least hashirama’s sage mode makes use of circular markings. and naruto’s chakra cloak also is detailed with circles. has sasuke (or madara) ever been associated w/ a crescent moon? i can’t remember.

Yes it would still be yin and yang, because yin and yang represents contrasts. A full moon vs. a shaded moon. Any meanings that are added to it are whatever you make of it.

 

[kurama01]

chapter 544

 

[EVlL]

its sun and moon undoubtedly

 

[Dante Demiurges]

Its the sun soloely because Indran and Ashura are opposites, and its only logical to assume that the signs are the sun and the moon,
But there is a high possiblity that kishi is trying to tell us that the indra is a cresent or an incomplete moon where ashura is filled with cooperation and he is complete.

 

[Hata Hideaki]

ahh geez, why is everyone so fixated on naruto and sasuke being yin and yang..? no one ever mentioned that stuff about them being "yin and yang" did they..?? NO. obito just mentioned this - "hashirama and madara, will of fire and hatred, naruto and sasuke". one more thing.. what if kishi is just trying to represent their personalities?? like,

full moon- accepting everyone into their lives and making peace with love. and
crescent moon- doing everything on his own and making peace with power.

think about it this way not yin and yang stuff.

 

[ReDCloudZ]

Learn to read, I said you wouldn't see clouds in the night sky. This is true most nights and if you can they sure as hell ain't white.

I read it perfectly fine actually, I think you need to get a proper grasp of the English language then read my post again. I don't know where you came to the conclusion that you cannot see clouds in the night sky.

 

[B00m]

I can't lie, I assumed it was the sun but as you pointed out it clearly looks night time on the Ashura panel. So now I'm thinking they are both moons, and the can still represent balance in a way. Naruto/Ashura is full, possibly to show friendship or good, and if there's good there will almost always be bad eclipsing it. Still kind of a ying and yang aspect.

 

[6PathsofKami]

Thought it was the sun till you showed them two panels, it looks like they are both moons can't believe how people are so one minded and can't change their mind with evidence right throughout this thread regarding the day and night sky drawings.

 

[Hata Hideaki]

Thought it was the sun till you showed them two panels, it looks like they are both moons can't believe how people are so one minded and can't change their mind with evidence right throughout this thread regarding the day and night sky drawings.

hahah yeah, you are right..

 

[Hidari]

its sun and moon undoubtedly

It'd be pretty hard to contradict such a lovely sig

 

[UncleRuckus]

ITs the ****ing sun....naruto ****ing looks like the sun for god's sake, he dresses in friggin bright orange, has yellow hair, has a ****ing big smile on his face, his friggin hair spikes represent that shine and sh-t dawg! FRIG!.

Look at this shit!

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Sasuke is friggin dark, has frigging dark lower half, with his orochimaru inspired clothes, his top is friggin white like the moon is when its a friggin crescent, cmon guys FRIG!

Look at this shit!

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Its a friggin crescent moon!, its been foreshadowed since first series, sasuke dresses in navy blue/white representing the night sky when its dark ish while the crescent moon is sorta white and shiny..ish.

WHile naruto...man FRIG!...FRIGGITY FRIG FRIG! man! PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER! stop these annoying theories man! FRIG MAN!

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(excuse language, this was just to be funny) but seriously man stop terming shit to tihngs that dont make sense, we got brains use em.

 

[ssjelf]

I read it perfectly fine actually, I think you need to get a proper grasp of the English language then read my post again. I don't know where you came to the conclusion that you cannot see clouds in the night sky.

Honestly the only way to know for sure would be confirmation through the manga but unfortunately in the meantime your gonna have people saying "you don't have clouds in a night sky"..... Are you being serious, what planet are you from?

You said this not me. Don't pretend like that was what I was saying and don't pretend you didn't misread my post. Because if you hadn't you wouldn't have said this. Or maybe you didn't misread and are deliberately misquoting me to piss me off. Yeah that seems like something you might do because clearly you think I misread. No you misquoted and I called you on it and now you wanna pretend you didn't. okay....

And as to where I cam to the conclusion that you can't see clouds in the night sky. Gee IDK go look out side when the moon isn't full and you will have a hard ass time seeing clouds. Seriously dude, WTF are you on about. Putting words in my mouth. And then debating that clouds are visible at night. They are to a small degree and a bit more at full moon. BUT THEY ARE NOT WHITE. Even in the scan the op posted showing clouds at sunset, they were shaded, not bright white.

The black sky is artistic design. Its an artists choice how they draw and I believe the sky is black here for contrast purposes. Read my previous posts if you care to be enlightened as to why I believe this. Trust me, it isn't an unfounded believe. Its art, he can draw how he wants, and the sky doesn't have to be black in a scene that is designed to show a parallel of contrast if you understand that concept. The whole scene. Ashura with people, Indra alone. Sun vs moon makes the most sense here not moon vs moon.

 

[Aim64C]

More than likely, it is the moon.

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This is going to play into the formation of the Elixir of Life.

......

And now I must go talk to SDO.... as I believe I've just solved part of the mystery. The Sage is plotting to have The Elixir of Life made to bring Kaguya, his mother, back from her condemnation as "The Reaper Death Seal" ... likely imposed upon her by the Uzumaki and Hyuuga.

Which explains why he, a sage of Buddhism, has been walking the outer path this entire time and meddling in things that do not belong.