Orochimaru's success rate is terrible

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NOTE: This isn't Character Bashing, just an analysis based on manga facts. Plus, Oro's one of my top 10 faves.

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Orochimaru has failed in most, if not all, of his endeavors.
  • Couldn't beat Hiruzen and destroy the Leaf; lost the ability to use ninjutsu.
  • Couldn't recreate a full-potential Mokuton in Yamato (Yamato only uses plank wood, not living trees like Hashi).
  • Couldn't beat Tsunade and Jiraiya (this one isn't so bad, but it's still a failure).
  • Couldn't do anything impressive against Kyuubi Naruto.
  • Couldn't steal Itachi's body; got fodderized by Itachi.
  • Couldn't learn Snake Sage Mode (due to his body; still a failure).
  • Couldn't steal Sasuke's body the first time; got defeated in his own dimension (this one really leaves me *smh*).
  • Couldn't steal Sasuke's body again; got fodderized by Itachi again.

Orochimaru is just a failure. Sure, he's accomplished some things, but they are far outnumbered by his failures.

Kabuto has had equal, if not more, success than him in a short period of time.
  • Discovered Ryuchido by himself in a very short period of time.
  • Captured Yamato.
  • Enhanced the White Zetsu Army's strength with the Hashi cells in Yamato.
  • Learned Snake Sage Mode.
  • Used a large-scale Edo Tensei with many powerful resurrections.
  • Actually convinced Obito to accept his help.

Obito has had more success than him:
  • Fooled the whole Shinobi world into thinking he was actually Madara.
  • Launched a more successful attack against the Leaf.
  • Indirectly killed the Fourth Hokage without losing his arms.
  • Manipulate Sasuke like a puppet.
  • Defeated Konan and obtained the Rinnegan.
  • Started the Fourth Great Shinobi War.
  • Revived the Juubi.
  • Became the Juubi's jin.

Madara has had much more success than him (too many successes to list).

Orochimaru is the best evil villain in the NV, but he loses some cool points due to failing in almost all of his major appearances.

This is why sometimes, the whole concept of Orochimaru being the final villain seems bland and even impossible at times; he has just failed too much to be taken seriously, imo.
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Imaooooooo maybe because bad guys never Win??
 

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Summons 2 Edo Kage and still loses to Hiruzen

#HiruzenSQUAD
 

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He still FUk yo girl
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Sure, but notice EVERYTHING, Kabuto did was based off of who's research, DNA, and chakra? Orochimaru. Then, notice how everytime he was defeated, he was either arrogant, or nerfed. Just saying.
 

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Sure, but notice EVERYTHING, Kabuto did was based off of who's research, DNA, and chakra? Orochimaru. Then, notice how everytime he was defeated, he was either arrogant, or nerfed. Just saying.

Lel knew you would post
 

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Sure, but notice EVERYTHING, Kabuto did was based off of who's research, DNA, and chakra? Orochimaru. Then, notice how everytime he was defeated, he was either arrogant, or nerfed. Just saying.

He was really only beat by plot. He's still creepy though
 

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Thats completely contrary.
You're literally only looking for his failures and none of his successes which is opposite of what you did for Kabuto, Obito, and Madara.
You didn't point out that Orochimaru did create his own village, placed a curse mark on Sasuke, killed the 4th kazekage,created the curse seal after experimenting on Jugo, Invaded konoha, killed Hiruzen, regained his arms etc.
he had a lot of success as well but you purposely overlooked them.
 

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Orochimaru's got it rough, but he is pretty strong and underestimated. People don't realize it, but he's actually pretty good at genjutsu too (getting fodderized by a supreme genjutsu user doesn't change that fact). And to be fair, Itachi just has access to some ridiculously overpowered techniques.

No other shinobi could effortlessly one-panel Orochimaru's Eight-Headed Serpent like that.
 

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Bla bla bla bla... Do you know anything better than this... Oro's is not what you think.... He's immortal and he dont give a shit about what u think abt him.. So go home and play ps3. Thats what best suits you... :mad: hmmmm......!!
 

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Silly Orochimaru hahaha he is funny and still awesome to me. Even though he failed.........a lot..............at everything............
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Damn.....
 

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You forgot this
Orochimaru's success
Put a curse mark on sasuke
 

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he always fail because of plot, if he succeed in even one of his plans, the series would have been very different from what it is now..
he's still the best villain next to Madara...
 

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He did beat Hiruzen and his failure with RDS has been rectified.
I don't think he cares lol
His arms were useless, give him a break
And Kyuubi Naruto did nothing impressive against him. Orochimaru was extremely impressive in that fight, being able to fight on par with that rage demon while sick and weakened and dying.
Sasuke and Itachi, failed there
Ryuchidō, failed there

Successes include
Forming a cult-like following
Creating his own mock Sage Mode through Curse Marks
Evading Konoha for years
Evading Akatsuki for years
Evading Suna for years
Experimenting his own body to become extremely, extremely resilient
Deciphering the Uchiha Stone Tablet without the Sharingan
Winning Part 1
Bypassing Totsuka Blade
Assassinating and impersonating the 4th Kazekage for who knows how long
And being the only character to create his own dimension...

But whatever.
 
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Orochimaru isnt a complete failure, he may not have won battles but the things he accomplished are many, Due to all his research and experiments Kabuto was able to control the war for a long time and even shamed two uchihas at the same time

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He did beat Hiruzen and his failure with RDS has been rectified.
I don't think he cares lol
His arms were useless, give him a break
And Kyuubi Naruto did nothing impressive against him. Orochimaru was extremely impressive in that fight, being able to fight on par with that rage demon while sick and weakened and dying.
Sasuke and Itachi, failed there
Ryuchidō, failed there

Successes include
Forming a cult-like following
Creating his own mock Sage Mode through Curse Marks
Evading Konoha for years
Evading Akatsuki for years
Evading Suna for years
Experimenting his own body to become extremely, extremely resilient
Deciphering the Uchiha Stone Tablet without the Sharingan
Winning Part 1
Bypassing Totsuka Blade
Assassinating and impersonating the 4th Kazekage for who knows how long
And being the only character to create his own dimension...

Thread/ nice job
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