How SM Jiraiya could defeat a Mangekyou Sharingan user

[Penguin]

There are so many mistakes and fallacy in this thread. Any MS user beats the living shit out of Jiraiya.

I just quit replying. It works quite nicely. If he honestly thinks Jiraiya can evade Amaterasu, Lol.

 

[Touken]

With intel on the tech, Amaterasu is rather easy to counter. Anyway, the key to beating MS users is to outlast, that's if you don't have the firepower to beat the crap out of them, so if SM Jiraiya has a way to dodge all of Sasuke/Itachi's techs, he should be able to pull off a win.

 

[Bronze]

I just quit replying. It works quite nicely. If he honestly thinks Jiraiya can evade Amaterasu, Lol.

Its ridiculous honestly. Jiraiya lacks sensory powers, otherwise, he would have sensed Asura path behind him. He is not fast enough.

 

[DaileyM]

Plausible.

 

[Beans2]

Its ridiculous honestly. Jiraiya lacks sensory powers, otherwise, he would have sensed Asura path behind him. He is not fast enough.

Him, Fukusaku, and Shima all let down their guard because they thought he had won...I thought you would know that. It doesn't matter anyway, Ama's start-up time is too slow. Read the replies on this thread, especially what TAC said.

 

[Bronze]

Him, Fukusaku, and Shima all let down their guard because they thought he had won...I thought you would know that. It doesn't matter anyway, Ama's start-up time is too slow. Read the replies on this thread, especially what TAC said.

Letting your guard down, doesn't mean your sensory have turned off, especially at the state of Sennin Mode when you have natural energy surrounding independently. The reason for that, is because Jiraiya isn't skilled in SM nor Fukusaku and Shima can sense chakra either. That is the fact.

Amatersu's build up being slow, doesn't change the fact Jiraiya can react or seeing it coming.

 

[Beans2]

Letting your guard down, doesn't mean your sensory have turned off, especially at the state of Sennin Mode when you have natural energy surrounding independently. The reason for that, is because Jiraiya isn't skilled in SM nor Fukusaku and Shima can sense chakra either. That is the fact.

Amatersu's build up being slow, doesn't change the fact Jiraiya can react or seeing it coming.

Come back after you read the OP.

 

[Bronze]

Come back after you read the OP.

Don't need to read when its full of horseshit.

 

[Beans2]

Don't need to read when its full of horseshit.

Smack talking gets you nowhere, buddy. I'm not going to repeat stuff that I've already said.

 

[Misconception]

SM Jiraya counters Amaterasu with sensing+needle jizo, clone or kawarimi. I do believe SM Jiraya is stronger than MS Itachi/MS Sasuke

Those so called sensing abilities would have came in handy when Asura path snook up on him and ripped his arm off(He cannot sense)... Also you've been giving Jiraiya Sm credit that Naruto has displayed my friend... Jiraiya wouldn't even live long enough to go into Sm... You don't really believe Needle Jizo can be put up before he's caught in flames....

Hair wall, smoke screen, clones.

Tbh the only MS user that beats Jiraiya is Obito.

Your logic always annoy me... Needle Jizo is not blocking him before Amaterasu hit... Amaterasu burned through Toad mouth trap it will burn through His hair like nothing was in the way...

Plausible.

Only if he starts in Sm if not then he loses rather easily...

 

[adeshina365]

MS Sasuke stomps.

 

[Unorthodox]

Sasuke stomps itachi stomps

susanoo arrow to fast to strong people using needle jizo as a counter when it needs handsighs to perform

susanoo arrow speed & amaterasu speed >>>> Handsigh speed

also we all no how fast fire spreads when it touches hair

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sasuke itachi obito madara all wins low diff

 

[Conspirator.]

Obito stomps him. Itachi stomps him. Shisui stomps him. Sasuke stomps him. Madara stomps him. Kakashi stomps him
/thread

 

[End of Days]

That was not Amaterasu. You posted Kotoamatsukami. Amaterasu happens very fast. So fast infact, Raikage Ei's shunshin barely dodged it after he noticed Itachi's eye bleeding. Ei > Jiraiya in reaction speed.

Please stop.

He was prepping amaterasu as nagato said, because he knew the crow inside naruto would react and come out to cast KA

The crow was rigged to react at itachi's mangaekyo, no outside prep need to be done else itachi's plan for sasuke to get KA'ed without his knowledge would be meaningless

 

[Penguin]

He was prepping amaterasu as nagato said, because he knew the crow inside naruto would react and come out to cast KA

The crow was rigged to react at itachi's mangaekyo, no outside prep need to be done else itachi's plan for sasuke to get KA'ed without his knowledge would be meaningless

Mhm, I realized I was wrong. It happens.

 

[Beans2]

Sasuke stomps itachi stomps

susanoo arrow to fast to strong people using needle jizo as a counter when it needs handsighs to perform

susanoo arrow speed & amaterasu speed >>>> Handsigh speed

also we all no how fast fire spreads when it touches hair

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sasuke itachi obito madara all wins low diff

I laughed so hard at that gif for some reason.

 

[Stxluciferr]

Just to much for jiraiya and to much hypothetical conditions

 

[blazekev90]

Fail thread... Why to many errors... Jiraiya cannot sense as Penguin pointed out that he got snook from the behide by Asura path... Those Toads aren't spitting out dust before Jiraiya is engulfed in flames/Amaterasu... Summonings are useless because they can get controlled via genjutsu... Ma and Pa need prep time for there genjutsu and if im correct they can only do it in closed in areas/tight spaces...

So you're saying neither Ma or Pa have sensing ability themselves? Sensing isn't automatic for most with this ability and clearly they let their guard down at the moment they felt vicious.

Depending on whether Jman starts in SM, those counters can be useful as activating sharingan is a step in iteslf. It may not require much time, but it's a step and one that is easily observed.

 

[GodKage]

interesting thread, but if jiraiya does win he wins high diff

 

[Beans2]

So you're saying neither Ma or Pa have sensing ability themselves? Sensing isn't automatic for most with this ability and clearly they let their guard down at the moment they felt vicious.

Depending on whether Jman starts in SM, those counters can be useful as activating sharingan is a step in iteslf. It may not require much time, but it's a step and one that is easily observed.

People don't seem to understand that it takes time to go from normal eye --> sharingan --> MS sharingan, and then after that activate amaterasu. It should be plenty of time for Ma to provide some smoke coverage.